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1 "We can usually learn much more from people whose views we share than from people whose views contradict our own; disagreement can cause stress and inhibit learning."


The speaker declares that we learn more from people who share similar ideas with us than who hold contradictory ideas, reasoning from that disagreement can lead to stress and inhibit learning. In terms of learning, in which we endeavor to gain as much knowledge as possible by all sorts of measures, I would claim that communication with people of different views is more helpful.

Admittedly, in some conditions to extreme, the process of communicating with people of opposite opinions might undermine the self-confidence or even give rise to a conflict. For instance, when a student frequently discovers that many others' answers to questions are merely agreed with, he/she may consequently feel too unconfident and despaired to communicate with others on the subjects. Similarly, if two conceited arguers hold contradictory views and would not compromise any bit, they might tend to quarrel rather than discuss in order that their own claims listened to and agreed with by others, and when finally one of them is acknowledged to be correct, the other, failing in maintaining self-importance, would hardly accept the “undesirable” result.

However, in most conditions, it is not disagreement but agreement that inhibits learning. On one hand, staying with people whose views are in accord with ours, we tend to be self-satisfied and not to attach enough importance to the shortcomings or even fallacies in our views. Secondly, with agreements all around, we could hardly be acquainted with more views that take root in different aspects, which might be of great significance in the process of complete learning, and would possibly slide into a situation of short sight or narrow vision. As Mark Twain ever said (and I paraphrase), “We like a man to come right out to say what he thinks, if we agree with him.” And the man we “like” is merely to assure our “justice” and raise our conceit, providing nothing new or helpful for our further study.

Moreover, in the connection with people of contradictory views, our learning process is actually improved. In the realm of law, the controversy of people with contradictory interests may lead to better acquaintance of the society for both sides. In the area of science, researchers with different opinions may quickly find out the truth by discussing and proving, which contributes not only to improve the knowledge and experience of the researchers but also to avoid serious mistakes caused by the fallacy of one side.

Furthermore, learning from people of contradictory views is more likely to stimulate our spirits and enthusiasm no matter what the ultimate result is. As in a controversy, both sides would endeavor to search evidence to confirm that they are on the right side and the contradictory others are on the wrong one. During this process, we would learn not only to consider from various facets of a certain matter but also to compromise when necessary. In the meantime, the truth would be clearer, As Montaigne, a famous French prose writer, noted that, the most universal quality is diversity; learning would be more effective and practical in a circumstance of various views.

To sum up, I insist that, in most conditions except some irrational ones, disagreement contributes more to the animation and quality of learning than agreements, and that communicating with people holding contradictory views is a better way to polish up our knowledge and cognition system. Accordingly, I can not agree with the speaker’s untenable statement.

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1 "We can usually learn much more from people whose views we share than from people whose views contradict our own; disagreement can cause stress and inhibit learning."


The speaker declares that we learn(+ much) 题目说的是much more from people who share similar ideas with us than who hold contradictory ideas, reasoning from that disagreement can lead to stress and inhibit learning. In terms of learning, in which we endeavor to gain as much knowledge as possible by all sorts of measures, I would claim that communication with people of different views is more helpful.

Admittedly, in some conditions to extreme, 这个限定不错 the process of communicating with people of opposite opinions might undermine the self-confidence or even give rise to a conflict. (例子)For instance, when a student frequently discovers that many others' answers to questions are merely agreed with, he/she may consequently feel too unconfident and despaired to communicate with others on the subjects. Similarly, if two conceited arguers hold contradictory views and would not compromise any bit, they might tend to quarrel rather than discuss in order that their own claims listened to and agreed with by others, and when finally one of them is acknowledged to be correct, the other, failing in maintaining self-importance, would hardly accept the “undesirable” result. 我感觉你的第二个例子最好应该对应你论点里的even give rise to a conflict,举出个特例,不然论证不深入,两个例子证明的同一个观点

However, in most conditions, it is not disagreement but agreement  that inhibits learning.这个转折和第一论点有点不连惯 但是对后面的论证挺好的On one hand, staying with people whose views are in accord with ours, we tend to be self-satisfied and not to attach enough importance to the shortcomings or even fallacies in our views. Secondly, with agreements all around, we could hardly be acquainted with more views that take root in different aspects, which might be of great significance in the process of complete learning, and would possibly slide into a situation of short sight or narrow vision. As Mark Twain ever said (and I paraphrase), “We like a man to come right out to say what he thinks, if we agree with him.” And the man we “like” is merely to assure our “justice” and raise our conceit, providing nothing new or helpful for our further study.

Moreover, in the connection with people of contradictory views, our learning process is actually improved.感觉这个论点和上一个论点不是很连惯, In the realm of law, the controversy of people with contradictory interests may lead to better acquaintance of the society for both sides. In the area of science, researchers with different opinions may quickly find out the truth by discussing and proving, which contributes not only to improve the knowledge and experience of the researchers but also to avoid serious mistakes caused by the fallacy of one side. 这样的例子很多,随便举个量子力学哥本哈根学派什么的例子

Furthermore, learning from people of contradictory views is more likely to stimulate our spirits and enthusiasm no matter what the ultimate result is. As in a controversy, both sides would endeavor to search evidence to confirm that they are on the right side and the contradictory others are on the wrong one. During this process, we would learn not only to consider from various facets of a certain matter but also to compromise when necessary. In the meantime, the truth would be clearer, As Montaigne, a famous French prose writer, noted that, the most universal quality is diversity; learning would be more effective and practical in a circumstance of various views. 这段放在这里不好

To sum up, I insist that, in most conditions except some irrational ones, disagreement contributes more to the animation and quality of learning than agreements, and that communicating with people holding contradictory views is a better way to polish up our knowledge and cognition system. Accordingly, I can not agree with the speaker’s untenable statement.

语言很好,值得我好好学习

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发表于 2004-7-17 01:18:31 |只看该作者
不敢不敢,我也改了又改才敢发上来的,汗
谢谢啊
指指不足吧,肯定很多呢:)

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很有范文风范。条理很清晰,语言的组织运用能力也很强。
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发表于 2004-7-17 11:20:55 |只看该作者
:eek: 真的???

吓到偶了...汗汗汗汗汗

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范文风范?我看看
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发表于 2004-7-17 11:32:54 |只看该作者
看看,这就把牛人吸引来了! 被陷害了,呵呵

使劲儿批不要留情!谢谢了:)

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1 "We can usually learn much more from people whose views we share than from people whose views contradict our own; disagreement can cause stress and inhibit learning." 题目:1。比较级(论断)  2。题目最后半句提出一个原因


The speaker declares that we learn more from people who share similar ideas with us than who hold contradictory ideas, reasoning from that disagreement can lead to stress and inhibit learning. In terms of learning, in which we endeavor to gain as much knowledge as possible by all sorts of measures, I would claim that communication with people of different views is more helpful.陈述原题,提出自己观点——开头很清晰

Admittedly, in some conditions to extreme, the process of communicating with people of opposite opinions might undermine the self-confidence or even give rise to a conflict. For instance, when a student frequently discovers that many others' answers to questions are merely agreed with, he/she may consequently feel too unconfident and despaired to communicate with others on the subjects. Similarly, if two conceited arguers hold contradictory views and would not compromise any bit, they might tend to quarrel rather than discuss in order that their own claims listened to and agreed with by others, and when finally one of them is acknowledged to be correct, the other, failing in maintaining self-importance, would hardly accept the “undesirable” result.就段落本身而言 简明且结构清晰 举了两个例子但是最后少了小的conclusion~~分析力度也不够 但就文章题目而言,没有涉及到learn!其实就是一层纸了,提到即可~~但就是没有做到~~这是缺憾

However, in most conditions, it is not disagreement but agreement不好 虽然用了not but~~但句子很奇怪 that inhibits learninghowever段~~以我的理解应该写其实异议可以学习 而作者选了另一个转折点:限制学习~~这在让步段没有明确提出. On one hand, staying with people whose views are in accord with ours, we tend to be self-satisfied and not to attach enough importance to the shortcomings or even fallacies in our views. Secondly, with agreements all around, we could hardly be acquainted with more views that take root in different aspects, which might be of great significance in the process of complete learning, and would possibly slide into a situation of short sight or narrow vision. As Mark Twain ever said (and I paraphrase), “We like a man to come right out to say what he thinks, if we agree with him.” And the man we “like” is merely to assure our “justice” and raise our conceit, providing nothing new or helpful for our further study.依然层次不错 问题还是说理太浅 虽然结构上对了 但就分析力度来说 达不到GRE作文高分的要求 习惯上 body也是遵守总分总的结构的

Moreover, in the connection with people of contradictory views, our learning process is actually improved. In the realm of law, the controversy of people with contradictory interests may lead to better acquaintance of the society for both sides. In the area of science, researchers with different opinions may quickly find out the truth by discussing and proving, which contributes not only to improve the knowledge and experience of the researchers but also to avoid serious mistakes caused by the fallacy of one side.说得很突兀 而且跟前一段衔接不太好 只写了论点 没有evidence~~但作为一个小的body还可以

Furthermore, learning from people of contradictory views is more likely to stimulate our spirits and enthusiasm no matter what the ultimate result is. As in a controversy, both sides would endeavor to search evidence to confirm that they are on the right side and the contradictory others are on the wrong one. During this process, we would learn not only to consider from various facets of a certain matter but also to compromise when necessary.这样就能如何如何……写开来久很不错了~~可是就是不到位 In the meantime, the truth would be clearer, As Montaigne, a famous French prose writer, noted that, the most universal quality is diversity; learning would be more effective and practical in a circumstance of various views.应该是重要的body 例证+分析都该比前面打一些分量 感觉气力不足

To sum up, I insist that, in most conditions except some irrational ones, disagreement contributes more to the animation and quality of learning than agreements, and that communicating with people holding contradictory views is a better way to polish up our knowledge and cognition system. Accordingly, I can not agree with the speaker’s untenable statement.

总的来说还可以 问题已经在各处指出了 离范文要求还有一定距离~~再接再厉 ;)
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发表于 2004-7-17 12:20:16 |只看该作者
非常感谢!~

说的太好了:)这就改!

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The speaker declares that we learn more from people who share similar ideas with us than fromwho hold contradictory ideas, reasoningand reasons,主要我对你的reasoning这个结构不懂?指点一下 from that disagreement can lead to stress and inhibit learning. In terms of learning, in which we endeavor to gain as much knowledge as possible by all sorts of measures, I would claim that communication with people of different views is more helpful.

Admittedly, in some extremconditions to extreme, the process of communicating with people of opposite opinions might undermine the self-confidence or even give rise to a conflict. For instance, when a student frequently discovers that many others' answers to questions are merely agreed with这个状语什么意思,答案…相同?不同, he/she may consequently feel too unconfident and despaired to communicate with others on the subjects. Similarly, if two conceited arguers hold contradictory views and would not compromise any bit, they might tend to quarrel rather than discuss in order that their own claims listened to and agreed with by others, and when finally one of them is acknowledged to be correct, the other, failing in maintaining self-importance, would hardly accept the “undesirable” result.

However, in most conditions, In most conditions, however,据说这样写更显示水平哦it is not disagreement but agreement that inhibits learning. On the,很容易就少了the哦,这个the有的!one hand, staying with people whose views are in accord with ours, we tend to be self-satisfied and not to attach enough importance to the shortcomings or even fallacies in our views. Secondlyon the other hand与前面one hand对应啊,要不前面firstly?, with agreements all around, we could hardly be acquainted with more views that take root in different aspects, which might be of great significance in the process of complete learning, and would possibly slide into a situation of short sight or narrow vision. As Mark Twain ever said (and I paraphrase), “We like a man to come right out to say what he thinks, if we agree with him.” And the man we “like” is merely to assure our “justice” and raise our conceit, providing nothing new or helpful for our further study.

Moreover, in the connection with people of contradictory views, our learning process is actually improved. In the realm of law, the controversy of people with contradictory interests may lead to better acquaintance of the society for both sides. In the area of science, researchers with different opinions may quickly find out the truth by discussing and proving, which contributes not only to improve the knowledge and experience of the researchers but also to avoid serious mistakes caused by the fallacy of one side.

Furthermore, learning from people of contradictory views is more likely to stimulate our spirits and enthusiasm no matter what the ultimate result is. As in a controversy, both sides would endeavor to search evidence to confirm that they are on the right side and the contradictory others are on the wrong one. During this process, we would learn not only to consider from various facets of a certain matter but also to compromise when necessary. In the meantime, the truth would be clearer, As Montaigne, a famous French prose writer, noted that, the most universal quality is diversity; learning would be more effective and practical in a circumstance of various views.

To sum up, I insist that, in most conditions except some irrational ones, disagreement contributes more to the animation and quality of learning than agreements, and that communicating with people holding contradictory views is a better way to polish up our knowledge and cognition system. Accordingly, I can not agree with the speaker’s untenable statement
呵呵,结构的问题前面高人已经指点了,我也指不出什么更高见来了,所以就改了改语法之类,总的说来条理清晰,表达也不错。
另外,的确,开始让步disagreement阻止学习,那么紧接着的however应该马上顺承disagreement能有助于学习,这样逻辑更顺畅一点。其实楼主只要把后3个body顺序调整一下,其实就差不多了吧

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1 "We can usually learn much more from people whose views we share than from people whose views contradict our own; disagreement can cause stress and inhibit learning."


The speaker declares that we learn more from people who share similar ideas with us than who hold contradictory ideas, reasoning from that disagreement can lead to stress and inhibit learning. In terms of learning, in which we endeavor to gain as much knowledge as possible by all sorts of measures, I would claim that communication with people of different views is more helpful.比较经典成熟的开头了

Admittedly, in some conditions to extreme, the process of communicating with people of opposite opinions might undermine the self-confidence or even give rise to a conflict. For instance, when a student frequently discovers that many others' answers to questions are merely agreed with,[he/she may consequently feel too unconfident and despaired to communicate with others on the subjects. Similarly, if two conceited arguers hold contradictory views and would not compromise any bit, they might tend to quarrel rather than discuss in order that their own claims listened to and agreed with by others, and when finally one of them is acknowledged to be correct, the other, failing in maintaining self-importance, would hardly accept the “undesirable” result.让步,意见不一致引起争吵和挫败感

However, in most conditions, it is not disagreement but agreement that inhibits learning. On one hand, staying with people whose views are in accord with ours, we tend to be self-satisfied and not to attach enough importance to the shortcomings or even fallacies in our views. Secondly, with agreements all around, we could hardly be acquainted with more views that take root in different aspects, which might be of great significance in the process of complete learning, and would possibly slide into a situation of short sight or narrow vision.这两个并列分句的主语并不相同且意义上恰恰相反,前句指从不同方面了解很重要;后句恰恰指“忽略”本身 As Mark Twain ever said (and I paraphrase), “We like a man to come right out to say what he thinks, if we agree with him.” And the man we “like” is merely to assure our “justice” and raise our conceit, providing nothing new or helpful for our further study.相同的看法阻碍了学习

Moreover, in the connection with people of contradictory views, our learning process is actually improved. In the realm of law, the controversy of people with contradictory interests may lead to better acquaintance of the society for both sides. In the area of science, researchers with different opinions may quickly find out the truth by discussing and proving, which contributes not only to improve the knowledge and experience of the researchers but also to avoid serious mistakes caused by the fallacy of one side.

Furthermore, learning from people of contradictory views is more likely to stimulate our spirits and enthusiasm no matter what the ultimate result is. As in a controversy, both sides would endeavor to search evidence to confirm that they are on the right side and the contradictory others are on the wrong one.这句话有点罗嗦 During this process, we would learn not only to consider from various facets of a certain matter but also to compromise when necessary. In the meantime, the truth would be clearer, As Montaigne, a famous French prose writer, noted that, the most universal quality is diversity; learning would be more effective and practical in a circumstance of various views.

To sum up, I insist that, in most conditions except some irrational ones, disagreement contributes more to the animation and quality of learning than agreements, and that communicating with people holding contradictory views is a better way to polish up our knowledge and cognition system. Accordingly, I can not agree with the speaker’s untenable statement.
语言很流畅,值得本人学习:)
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这使我没有东西拴住。
我安居,
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To sarahong
我用reason from的意思是“从...推得”,这个是表推理原因的从句:)
“merely”用错了,我真是头脑不清,呵呵
on the one hand真的有the?嗯,这个我一直迷惑呢,看到大家都加了,可我记得不加,唉。
后面的secondly是后来修改的时候不清醒换上的,呵呵,忘了自己写过什么:)

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关于开头,限时的时候一着急干脆参照了老外280的issue1,像argu一样restate了,本来觉得是很逊的一段呢,没想到大家都觉得还好,出乎意料了。那我以后就这样写啦:)
那个并不是并列分句,主句的并列成分,主语是前面的we。我没把握好吧,显得有些乱:)

谢谢大家的指正和鼓励,我好高兴啊:)

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发表于 2004-7-17 22:55:30 |只看该作者
三日不见,当刮目相看,讨厌下雨,你的作文提升是火箭速度啊!佩服,佩服。 向你学习。近日忙,改天再研读大作。
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发表于 2004-7-17 23:51:21 |只看该作者
大姐,饶了我吧!偶然现象不能说明问题啊
且不说这还是道比较有思路的题,强人也说了差距还很大

重要的是,限时什么都写不出,才380字,这是后来补充润色过的 :(

上面说高兴是因为大家那么热心改我的作文了
如果真有一天我能为自己的水平高兴,那就烧高香了,后后苦笑中

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发表于 2004-7-17 23:53:49 |只看该作者
上面的绝对不是谦虚,这个期偶是延定了看来

唉,郁闷程度不是一般,今天心里乱又没思路 一个提纲都没写出来:(

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