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[优秀习作] issue157 行为类,第一次限时,没想到写这么烂,大家来打击我吧! [复制链接]

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发表于 2004-8-7 10:00:36 |只看该作者 |倒序浏览
第一次限时
这篇对我来说是新题,以前没写过提纲,写BODY用了近30分钟,而且有好多内容还没写,无奈再不写开头结尾没有时间了,只好草草收尾,写的很烂。
感觉是平时一些好的想法和表达在限时的紧张情况下想不出来,而且时间紧迫,问题考虑的也不够深,得出两点结论:
1.把大部分的题目都写一遍提纲是很重要的,可以节省考试时布置文章结构的时间
2.限时应该多练,提早练,熟悉限时情况下的感觉。

总之这次的限时失败,我会继续努力

另外,一些拼写和语法错误已经改正。大家都来打击我一下吧!


Issue157  第1篇 让砖头来得更猛烈些吧!
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There is no such thing as purely objective observation. All observation is subjective; it is always guided by the observer's expectations or desires.
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Are all the observations subjective, as the speaker asserts? I concede that in some situations and circumstances it is so, yet others are not.  We have to see both sides of the coin when judging an observation to be subjective or objective; otherwise, our observation of observations would be subjective.

Generally speaking, almost all the observations have something to do with the values, ideas, and thoughts of the observer, for it is essential nature of human beings to analysis and mediate what he or she observes in his or her own way of thinking.   As a matter of fact, the behavior of observing is oriented by our spiritual and psychological forces which would bring the outcome of observation subjective colors.   It accounts for why the observations of the same incidence vary from individual to individual.  When we behold a car accident, for instance, different people have different views; some one will have his own idea about who is responsible for the accident, yet view of others would contradict his judgment; some will feel worry and sympathetic about the one injured in the accident, while some consider only the brands and prices of the cars destroyed.  All these views are based on the distinctive observations of everyone.  The evidence as well as other similar cases in our everyday life demonstrates that no matter we acknowledge or not, subjective factors such as our desires, values, ideas, expectations and so forth play significant roles in our observation and thereby affect our observation to be more or less subjective.

Aside from it, in the realms of arts including literature, painting, music and the like, it is necessary and justifiable for the observer to employ their subjective ideas and desires unrestrainly into the observation of the world and their works as well.  Art serve to reveal the inner impulses and spirits of the artists.  According to common sense and our everyday experience, almost all the artistic works express the subjective ideas of the artists.  Only by using subjective view to observe the mundane world and then interpret observations into works could the essential nature and aim of art and the imagination and inspirations of artists be achieved and preserved.

Under the circumstances I discussed above, I believe that, no purely objective observations exist.  Although I agree that subjective factors contribute greatly to our observation and make it subjective, there are other situations we should take into consideration.

In the world of science, the world built on the foundation of objective, accurate, and complicated observations and researches, the observations have much less to do with subjective.  It is the spirit and essence of science require the observer in any fields of this realm to be objective.  Moreover, the advanced technologies and sophisticated schedules which scientific observers use in the researches help them to perform the objective observation.  As the case of research in human genome, nearly every step was planed before hand, and industrial methods and machines were borrowed into the research, thus the probability of the scientists who are involved in and observe the research to be subjective is eliminated.

In the final analysis, whether the observation is objective or subjective rely largely on the situation of the observers and the circumstances of the object being observed.  Therefore, no imprudent conclusions should be made before careful consideration of all the conditions.
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呵呵,牛人新作啊,先占后看HOHO~

我不去想是否能够成功
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先谢谢楼上的张柏芝了:)
不过我不是牛人啊:o
我也每天为作文发愁呢

快考试了可是还写的很慢
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Are all the observations subjective, as the speaker asserts? I concede that in some situations and circumstances it is so, yet others are not. We have to see both sides of the coin when judging an observation to be subjective or objective; otherwise, our observation of observations would be subjective.

Generally speaking, almost all the observations have something to do with the values, ideas, and thoughts of the observer, for it is essential nature of human beings to analysis and mediate what he or she observes in his or her own way of thinking. As a matter of fact, the behavior of observing is oriented by our spiritual and psychological forces which would bring the outcome of observation subjective colors. It accounts for why the observations of the same incidence vary from individual to individual. When we behold a car accident, for instance, different people have different views; some one will have his own idea about who is responsible for the accident, yet view of others would contradict his judgment; some will feel worry and sympathetic about the one injured in the accident, while some consider only the brands and prices of the cars destroyed. All these views are based on the distinctive observations of everyone. The evidence as well as other similar cases in our everyday life demonstrates that no matter we acknowledge or not, subjective factors such as our desires, values, ideas, expectations and so forth play significant roles in our observation and thereby affect our observation to be more or less subjective.

Aside from it, in the realms of arts including literature, painting, music and the like, it is necessary and justifiable for the observer to employ their subjective ideas and desires unrestrainly into the observation of the world and their works as well. Art serve to reveal the inner impulses and spirits of the artists. According to common sense and our everyday experience, almost all the artistic works express the subjective ideas of the artists. Only by using subjective view to observe the mundane world and then interpret observations into works could the essential nature and aim of art and the imagination and inspirations of artists be achieved and preserved.

Under the circumstances I discussed above, I believethat, no purely objective observations exist. Although I agree that subjective factors contribute greatly to our observation and make it subjective, there are other situations we should take into consideration.

In the world of science, the world built on the foundation of objective, accurate, and complicated observations and researches, the observations have much less to do with subjective. It is the spirit and essence of science require the observer in any fields of this realm to be objective. Moreover, the advanced technologies and sophisticated schedules which scientific observers use in the researches help them to perform the objective observation. As the case of research in human genome, nearly every step was planed before hand, and industrial methods and machines were borrowed into the research, thus the probability of the scientists who are involved in and observe the research to be subjective is eliminated.

In the final analysis, whether the observation is objective or subjective rely largely on the situation of the observers and the circumstances of the object being observed. Therefore, no imprudent conclusions should be made before careful consideration of all the conditions.
My Revise:
1.        果然是牛人兄,开头简洁,就是没有直接表明你的观点,这样好吗?讨论后
2.        开头:首先你的观点是中性的,我觉得这样定基调最后很难有个明确的结论, 还是“肯定 + 少量让步”好些。我觉得,如果我写的话,会将那些让步放到最后的,eg“Adimittedly,………………,however, I support …………”这样既可以说明你的思维不是绝对的,是critical thinking,实际操作起来也好写,好拿高分。
3.        B1:首先,我觉得你的ts 太过冗长,给人不清晰的感觉。建议将ts 与后面的explainations分开。其次,我觉得,这里需要首先讨论“what is the real meaning of the observation?”。因为,observation 既有比较客观的”观察,观测,测量“,也有很主观的”评论,comment“,而笼统的讲observation 我觉的不好。
4.        B2:只是理论推理,缺少具体例子,
5.        B3:(姑且称之为)我个人觉的,作为“转”“承”的句子,最好不要单独列为一段,除非为了凑字,且打字速度巨快。建议和B4合并。
6.        B4:首先,你将科学与一般生活割裂开,单独讨论的立论,个人感觉太过于片面。举的例子,在解释“为什么很客观”时,解释的很勉强,个人感觉就是跑题。
7.        结尾:看了结尾,我的感觉就是,这道题你又推给ETS 的老鬼了,因为“具体问题要在具体情况,环境下讨论“本身就是类似公理的,无需证明的,Common Sense,。而你的结论就在中间,我感觉就是你什么也没表明你立场,观点。还是”80%的偏向一方“较好写。
8.        回复的很晚,自己的任务也很重,没用看楼上下个xdjm的帖子,可能会重复。我感觉不妥的语言方面的问题,标出但未改,请见谅。意见如有不妥,希望你和我具体讨论。Pm我。


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发表于 2004-8-7 11:20:09 |只看该作者
老兄的TS似乎没有对原题的expectation and desire作回应。
B1似乎一直没提到expectation and desire但最后又冒出来了。
老兄提到了values, ideas, and thoughts ,spiritual and psychological forces ,different people 到最后一句出现desires, values, ideas, expectations and so forth 。但例子没陈述观察车祸的不同人抱着什么样的期待啊。
B2很好。观察世界这个问题比观察车祸有价值。但是没例子。
小弟觉得不妨写人们观察同一作品会有不同感受bacause有不同expectation,desire。例如人们看一幅抽象画。孕妇能看出画的是婴儿,烟鬼只能看出是烟雾。
限时itself就很牛,小弟还没实力限时呢。

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Are all the observations subjective, as the speaker asserts? I concede that in some situations and circumstances it is so, yet others are not. We have to see both sides of the coin when judging an observation to be subjective or objective; otherwise, our observation of observations would be subjective.

Generally speaking, almost all the observations have something to do with the values, ideas, and thoughts of the observer, for it is essential nature of human beings to analysis and mediate what he or she observes in his or her own way of thinking. As a matter of fact, the behavior of observing is oriented by our spiritual and psychological forces which would bring the outcome of observation subjective colors. It accounts for why the observations of the same incidence vary from individual to individual. When we behold a car accident, for instance, different people have different views; some one will have his own idea about who is responsible for the accident, yet view of others would contradict his judgment; some will feel worryworried and sympathetic about the one injured in the accident, while some consider only the brands and prices of the cars destroyed. All these views are based on the distinctive observations of everyone. The evidence as well as other similar cases in our everyday life demonstrates that no matter we acknowledge or not, subjective factors such as our desires, values, ideas, expectations and so forth play significant roles in our observation and thereby affect our observation to be more or less subjective.

Aside from it, in the realms of arts including literature, painting, music and the like, it is necessary and justifiable for the observer to employ their subjective ideas and desires unrestrainly用法不对 into the observation of the world and their works as well. Art serves to reveal the inner impulses and spirits of the artists. According to common sense and our everyday experience, almost all the artistic works express the subjective ideas of the artists. Only by using subjective view to observe the mundane world and then interpret observations into works could the essential nature and aim of art and the imagination and inspirations of artists be achieved and preserved.

Under the circumstances I discussed above, I believe that, no purely objective observations exist. Although I agree that subjective factors contribute greatly to our observation and make it subjective, there are other situations we should take into consideration.

In the world of science, the world built on the foundation of objective, accurate, and complicated observations and researches, the observations have much less to do with subjectivethinking. It is the spirit and essence of sciencethat require the observer in any fields of this realm to be objective. Moreover, the advanced technologies and sophisticated schedules which scientific observers use in the researches help them to perform the objective observation. As the case of research in human genome, nearly every step was planed before hand, and industrial methods and machines were borrowed into the research, thus the probability of the scientists who are involved in and observe the research to be subjective is eliminated.

In the final analysis, whether the observation is objective or subjective rely largely on the situation of the observers and the circumstances of the object being observed. Therefore, no imprudent conclusions should be made before careful consideration of all the conditions. After reading through your passage,I still feel that you did a very good job only with minor mistakes.J very clear logical thinking and convincing examples. Learning from you.
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Issue157 第1篇 让砖头来得更猛烈些吧!
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作者:寄托家园作文版普通用户 共用时间:45分3秒 557 words
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There is no such thing as purely objective observation. All observation is subjective; it is always guided by the observer's expectations or desires.
------正文------
Are all the observations subjective, as the speaker asserts? I concede that in some situations and circumstances it is so, yet others are not. We have to see both sides of the coin when judging an observation to be subjective or objective; otherwise, our observation of observations would be subjective.

Generally speaking, almost all the observations have something to do with the values, ideas, and thoughts of the observer, for it is essential nature of human beings to analysisanalyse and mediatemeditate? what he or she observes in his or her own way of thinking. As a matter of fact, the behavior of observing is oriented by our spiritual and psychological forces which would bring the outcome of observation subjective colors. It accounts for why the observations of the same incidence vary from individual to individual. When we behold a car accident, for instance, different people have different views; some onesomeone will have his own idea about who is responsible for the accident, yet view of others would contradict his judgment; some will feel worry and sympathetic about the one injured in the accident, while some consider only the brands and prices of the cars destroyed. All these views are based on the distinctive observationsobservation? of everyone. The evidence觉得这里用This illustration好一些,跟cases相符 as well as other similar cases in our everyday life demonstrates-s that no matter we acknowledge or not, subjective factors such as our desires, values, ideas, expectations and so forth play significant roles in our observation and thereby affect our observation to be more or less subjective.

Aside from it, in the realms of arts including literature, painting, music and the like, it is necessary and justifiable for the observer to employ their subjective ideas and desires unrestrainly into the observation of the world and their works as well. Art serve to reveal the inner impulses and spirits of the artists. According to common sense and our everyday experience, almost all the artistic works express the subjective ideas of the artists. Only by using subjective view to observe the mundane world and then interpret observations into works could the essential nature and aim of art and the imagination and inspirations of artists be achieved and preserved.

Under the circumstances I discussed above, I believe that, no purely objective observations exist. Although I agree that subjective factors contribute greatly to our observation and make it subjective, there are other situations we should take into consideration.

In the world of science, the world built on the foundation of objective, accurate, and complicated observations and researches, the observations have much [U]less[/U]  to do with subjective. It is the spirit and essence of science require the observer in any fields of this realm to be objective. [U]Moreover, the advanced technologies and sophisticated schedules which scientific observers use in the researches help them to perform the objective observation. [/U]   As the case of research in human genome, nearly every step was planed before hand, and industrial methods and machines were borrowed into the research, thus the probability of the scientists who are involved in and observe the research to be subjective is eliminated.科学也是有objective factors 的哟,不同主张的学者们可能在同一个问题上互不相容。而且,不同的value会影响人们对科学问题的深入。。。呵呵,其实可能是偶从一开头看到你说some situations are not的时候就报了一种看好戏的心理,因为偶定的观点就是totally agree with the speaker, including in science field. e.g....呵呵。。所以偶觉得这一段写得最高明的地方就是加下划线的地方,不完全否定呵呵。偶觉得啊,要是需要好上加好就在moreover那里来个admittedly...yet the advanced technologies and sophisticated schedules...help to eliminate...,毕竟人家说的是All observation is subjective,而不是the purpose or goal of science observation are objective.

In the final analysis, whether the observation is objective or subjective rely largely on the situation of the observers and the circumstances of the object being observed. Therefore, no imprudent conclusions should be made before careful consideration of all the conditions.

final analysis:  牛人啊。。。。。。

呵呵,每次看鬼谷子的文章都要拿出鸡蛋里面挑骨头的精神来,
anyway, it is a rather good opportunity to enhance...还是不平衡555555。。。偶超时写都没这么好的说。。。大牛啊,以后可要关照关照偶们虾虾。。

开玩笑了,不过,觉得这一篇在结构上比上一篇好的说,举的例子也比较到位,也没有走题,总的感觉比上一篇要好

我不去想是否能够成功
既然选择了远方
便只顾风雨兼程
……一切,都在意料之中。

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lakeqian兄说的对,我看题目时不仔细,只看到了desire,就顺着desire写的,expectation我本想在科学的方面说的,可是时间不够了

我回去仔细改改,我决定以后每篇都限时写了
限时和不限时的感觉完全不一样
得适应限时的感觉
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to张柏芝:)
科学那段写的不好,还有些东西想说没说出来呢,我是想说在科学研究中,有先进技术和严谨的计划安排帮助下,科学家的观察会是客观的。而且,我想反驳expectation来着,可是没时间写了。
另外你改的很细心,真是谢谢你,很简单的错误我都没发现呢,shy~~~
还有,
我不是牛,你也不是虾哦
但是总有一天我们都会努力成为牛的哦:D
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一起努力一起加油吧
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[B]限时和不限时的感觉完全不一样
得适应限时的感觉
[/B]

sigh...我也该限时了。。。
另外,鬼兄不直接回应desire expectation 也行。在TS中指出观察受其他主观因素影响不仅仅是desire expectation 。接下来就不用受原题限制了。

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恩,有道理
我再想想
lakeqian哪天考啊?
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另外,鬼兄不直接回应desire expectation 也行。在TS中指出观察受其他主观因素影响不仅仅是desire expectation 。接下来就不用受原题限制了。


是的哦,我在写的时候也忽略了这个问题,在TS中回避不失为上上之策,这样可以写的比较多:)

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呵呵,不一定对~~~偶也是新手~~

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Are all the observations subjective, as the speaker asserts? I concede that in some situations and circumstances it is so, yet others are not. We have to see both sides of the coin when judging an observation to be subjective or objective; otherwise, our observation of observations would be subjective.

Generally speaking, almost all the observations have something to do with the values, ideas, and thoughts of the observer, for it is essential nature of human beings to analysis and mediate what he or she observes in his or her own way of thinking. As a matter of fact, the behavior of observing is oriented by our spiritual and psychological forces which would bring the outcome of observation subjective colors. It accounts for why the observations of the same incidence vary from individual to individual. When we behold a car accident, for instance, different people have different views; some one will have his是不是要换成their own idea about who is responsible for the accident, yet view of others would contradict his judgmenttheir judgements; some will feel worry and sympatheticsympathy about the one injured in the accident, whileeven worse some mere consider only不要) the brands and prices of the cars destroyed. All these views are based on the distinctive observations of everyone. The evidence as well as other similar cases in our everyday life demonstrates that no matter we acknowledge or not, subjective factors such as our desires, values, ideas, expectations and so forth play significant roles in our observation and thereby affect our observation to be more or less subjective.

Aside from it, in the realms of arts including literature, painting, music and the like, it is necessary and justifiablejustifiable even necessary for the observers to employ their subjective ideas and desires unrestrainly into thetheir observations of the world and their works as well. Art serveserve真的可以这样用吗?我不确定望告知) to reveal the inner impulses and spirits of the artists. According to common sense and our everyday experience, almost all the artistic works express the subjective ideas of the artists(their own. Only by using subjective viewwith personal emotion such as empathy and sympathy, loveness and indifferenceand  to observe与前平行observing the mundane world and then interpretinterpreting observations into works could好倒装!) the essential nature and aim of art and the imagination and inspirations of artists be achieved and preserved.(as integrity加不加没所谓

Under the circumstances I discussed above, I believe that, no purely objective observations exist. Although I agree that subjective factors contribute greatly to our observation and make it subjective, there are other situations we should take into consideration.

In the world of science, the world built on the foundation of objective, accurate, and complicated observations and researches, the observations have much less to do with subjective. It is the spirit and essence of science require the observer in any fields of this realm to be objective. Moreover, the advanced technologies and sophisticated schedules which scientific observers use(used) in the researches help them to perform the objective observation. As the case of research in human genome好,终于看到一个用对基因组的人了:)), nearly every step was planed before hand, and industrial methods and machines were borrowed into the research, thus the probability of the scientists who are involved in and observe the research to be subjective is eliminated.(这个例子用的不好吧,不过我也没有想出来好的)

In the final analysis, whether the observation is objective or subjective rely largely on the situation of the observers and the circumstances of the object being observed. Therefore, no imprudent conclusions should be made before careful consideration of all the conditions.
我靠,哥哥写的不错了,不过我基本观点都不同你,所以我也没帮法帮你看例子:)我是一面倒向赞同的。

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所以偶觉得这一段写得最高明的地方就是加下划线的地方,不完全否定呵呵。偶觉得啊,要是需要好上加好就在moreover那里来个admittedly...yet the advanced technologies and sophisticated schedules...help to eliminate...,毕竟人家说的是All observation is subjective,而不是the purpose or goal of science observation are objective.


不明白好在哪里?能否给我讲一下,共同讨论呢

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