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文章转自Economist On-line edition, 重点观点和数据有已标记。读博很痛苦,入行需谨慎。
The disposable academic
Why doing a PhD is often a waste of time

ON THE evening before All Saints’ Day in 1517, Martin Luther nailed 95 theses to the door of a church in Wittenberg. In those days a thesis was simply a position one wanted to argue. Luther, an Augustinian friar, asserted that Christians could not buy their way to heaven. Today a doctoral thesis is both an idea and an account of a period of original research. Writing one is the aim of the hundreds of thousands of students who embark on a doctorate of philosophy (PhD) every year.

In most countries a PhD is a basic requirement for a career in academia. It is an introduction to the world of independent research—a kind of intellectual masterpiece, created by an apprentice in close collaboration with a supervisor. The requirements to complete one vary enormously between countries, universities and even subjects. Some students will first have to spend two years working on a master’s degree or diploma. Some will receive a stipend; others will pay their own way. Some PhDs involve only research, some require classes and examinations and some require the student to teach undergraduates. A thesis can be dozens of pages in mathematics, or many hundreds in history. As a result, newly minted PhDs can be as young as their early 20s or world-weary forty-somethings.

One thing many PhD students have in common is dissatisfaction. Some describe their work as “slave labour”. Seven-day weeks, ten-hour days, low pay and uncertain prospects are widespread. You know you are a graduate student, goes one quip, when your office is better decorated than your home and you have a favourite flavour of instant noodle. “It isn’t graduate school itself that is discouraging,” says one student, who confesses to rather enjoying the hunt for free pizza. “What’s discouraging is realising the end point has been yanked out of reach.”

Whining PhD students are nothing new, but there seem to be genuine problems with the system that produces research doctorates (the practical “professional doctorates” in fields such as law, business and medicine have a more obvious value). There is an oversupply of PhDs. Although a doctorate is designed as training for a job in academia, the number of PhD positions is unrelated to the number of job openings. Meanwhile, business leaders complain about shortages of high-level skills, suggesting PhDs are not teaching the right things. The fiercest critics compare research doctorates to Ponzi or pyramid schemes.

Rich pickings

For most of history even a first degree at a university was the privilege of a rich few, and many academic staff did not hold doctorates. But as higher education expanded after the second world war, so did the expectation that lecturers would hold advanced degrees. American universities geared up first: by 1970 America was producing just under a third of the world’s university students and half of its science and technology PhDs (at that time it had only 6% of the global population). Since then America’s annual output of PhDs has doubled, to 64,000.

Other countries are catching up. Between 1998 and 2006 the number of doctorates handed out in all OECD countries grew by 40%, compared with 22% for America. PhD production sped up most dramatically in Mexico, Portugal, Italy and Slovakia. Even Japan, where the number of young people is shrinking, churned out about 46% more PhDs. Part of that growth reflects the expansion of university education outside America. Richard Freeman, a labour economist at Harvard University, says that by 2006 America was enrolling just 12% of the world’s students.

But universities have discovered that PhD students are cheap, highly motivated and disposable labour. With more PhD students they can do more research, and in some countries more teaching, with less money. A graduate assistant at Yale might earn $20,000 a year for nine months of teaching. The average pay of full professors in America was $109,000 in 2009—higher than the average for judges and magistrates.

Indeed, the production of PhDs has far outstripped demand for university lecturers. In a recent book, Andrew Hacker and Claudia Dreifus, an academic and a journalist, report that America produced more than 100,000 doctoral degrees between 2005 and 2009. In the same period there were just 16,000 new professorships. Using PhD students to do much of the undergraduate teaching cuts the number of full-time jobs. Even in Canada, where the output of PhD graduates has grown relatively modestly, universities conferred 4,800 doctorate degrees in 2007 but hired just 2,616 new full-time professors. Only a few fast-developing countries, such as Brazil and China, now seem short of PhDs.

A short course in supply and demand

In research the story is similar. PhD students and contract staff known as “postdocs”, described by one student as “the ugly underbelly of academia”, do much of the research these days. There is a glut of postdocs too. Dr Freeman concluded from pre-2000 data that if American faculty jobs in the life sciences were increasing at 5% a year, just 20% of students would land one. In Canada 80% of postdocs earn $38,600 or less per year before tax—the average salary of a construction worker. The rise of the postdoc has created another obstacle on the way to an academic post. In some areas five years as a postdoc is now a prerequisite for landing a secure full-time job.

These armies of low-paid PhD researchers and postdocs boost universities’, and therefore countries’, research capacity. Yet that is not always a good thing. Brilliant, well-trained minds can go to waste when fashions change. The post-Sputnik era drove the rapid growth in PhD physicists that came to an abrupt halt as the Vietnam war drained the science budget. Brian Schwartz, a professor of physics at the City University of New York, says that in the 1970s as many as 5,000 physicists had to find jobs in other areas.

In America the rise of PhD teachers’ unions reflects the breakdown of an implicit contract between universities and PhD students: crummy pay now for a good academic job later. Student teachers in public universities such as the University of Wisconsin-Madison formed unions as early as the 1960s, but the pace of unionisation has increased recently. Unions are now spreading to private universities; though Yale and Cornell, where university administrators and some faculty argue that PhD students who teach are not workers but apprentices, have resisted union drives. In 2002 New York University was the first private university to recognise a PhD teachers’ union, but stopped negotiating with it three years later.

In some countries, such as Britain and America, poor pay and job prospects are reflected in the number of foreign-born PhD students. Dr Freeman estimates that in 1966 only 23% of science and engineering PhDs in America were awarded to students born outside the country. By 2006 that proportion had increased to 48%. Foreign students tend to tolerate poorer working conditions, and the supply of cheap, brilliant, foreign labour also keeps wages down.
A PhD may offer no financial benefit over a master’s degree. It can even reduce earnings

Proponents of the PhD argue that it is worthwhile even if it does not lead to permanent academic employment. Not every student embarks on a PhD wanting a university career and many move successfully into private-sector jobs in, for instance, industrial research. That is true; but drop-out rates suggest that many students become dispirited. In America only 57% of doctoral students will have a PhD ten years after their first date of enrolment. In the humanities, where most students pay for their own PhDs, the figure is 49%. Worse still, whereas in other subject areas students tend to jump ship in the early years, in the humanities they cling like limpets before eventually falling off. And these students started out as the academic cream of the nation. Research at one American university found that those who finish are no cleverer than those who do not. Poor supervision, bad job prospects or lack of money cause them to run out of steam.

Even graduates who find work outside universities may not fare all that well. PhD courses are so specialised that university careers offices struggle to assist graduates looking for jobs, and supervisors tend to have little interest in students who are leaving academia. One OECD study shows that five years after receiving their degrees, more than 60% of PhDs in Slovakia and more than 45% in Belgium, the Czech Republic, Germany and Spain were still on temporary contracts. Many were postdocs. About one-third of Austria’s PhD graduates take jobs unrelated to their degrees. In Germany 13% of all PhD graduates end up in lowly occupations. In the Netherlands the proportion is 21%.

A very slim premium


PhD graduates do at least earn more than those with a bachelor’s degree. A study in the Journal of Higher Education Policy and Management by Bernard Casey shows that British men with a bachelor’s degree earn 14% more than those who could have gone to university but chose not to. The earnings premium for a PhD is 26%. But the premium for a master’s degree, which can be accomplished in as little as one year, is almost as high, at 23%. In some subjects the premium for a PhD vanishes entirely. PhDs in maths and computing, social sciences and languages earn no more than those with master’s degrees. The premium for a PhD is actually smaller than for a master’s degree in engineering and technology, architecture and education. Only in medicine, other sciences, and business and financial studies is it high enough to be worthwhile. Over all subjects, a PhD commands only a 3% premium over a master’s degree.

Dr Schwartz, the New York physicist, says the skills learned in the course of a PhD can be readily acquired through much shorter courses. Thirty years ago, he says, Wall Street firms realised that some physicists could work out differential equations and recruited them to become “quants”, analysts and traders. Today several short courses offer the advanced maths useful for finance. “A PhD physicist with one course on differential equations is not competitive,” says Dr Schwartz.

Many students say they are pursuing their subject out of love, and that education is an end in itself. Some give little thought to where the qualification might lead. In one study of British PhD graduates, about a third admitted that they were doing their doctorate partly to go on being a student, or put off job hunting. Nearly half of engineering students admitted to this. Scientists can easily get stipends, and therefore drift into doing a PhD. But there are penalties, as well as benefits, to staying at university. Workers with “surplus schooling”—more education than a job requires—are likely to be less satisfied, less productive and more likely to say they are going to leave their jobs.
The interests of universities and tenured academics are misaligned with those of PhD students

Academics tend to regard asking whether a PhD is worthwhile as analogous to wondering whether there is too much art or culture in the world. They believe that knowledge spills from universities into society, making it more productive and healthier. That may well be true; but doing a PhD may still be a bad choice for an individual.

The interests of academics and universities on the one hand and PhD students on the other are not well aligned. The more bright students stay at universities, the better it is for academics. Postgraduate students bring in grants and beef up their supervisors’ publication records. Academics pick bright undergraduate students and groom them as potential graduate students. It isn’t in their interests to turn the smart kids away, at least at the beginning. One female student spoke of being told of glowing opportunities at the outset, but after seven years of hard slog she was fobbed off with a joke about finding a rich husband.

Monica Harris, a professor of psychology at the University of Kentucky, is a rare exception. She believes that too many PhDs are being produced, and has stopped admitting them. But such unilateral academic birth control is rare. One Ivy-League president, asked recently about PhD oversupply, said that if the top universities cut back others will step in to offer them instead.

Noble pursuits

Many of the drawbacks of doing a PhD are well known. Your correspondent was aware of them over a decade ago while she slogged through a largely pointless PhD in theoretical ecology. As Europeans try to harmonise higher education, some institutions are pushing the more structured learning that comes with an American PhD.

The organisations that pay for research have realised that many PhDs find it tough to transfer their skills into the job market. Writing lab reports, giving academic presentations and conducting six-month literature reviews can be surprisingly unhelpful in a world where technical knowledge has to be assimilated quickly and presented simply to a wide audience. Some universities are now offering their PhD students training in soft skills such as communication and teamwork that may be useful in the labour market. In Britain a four-year NewRoutePhD claims to develop just such skills in graduates.

Measurements and incentives might be changed, too. Some university departments and academics regard numbers of PhD graduates as an indicator of success and compete to produce more. For the students, a measure of how quickly those students get a permanent job, and what they earn, would be more useful. Where penalties are levied on academics who allow PhDs to overrun, the number of students who complete rises abruptly, suggesting that students were previously allowed to fester.

Many of those who embark on a PhD are the smartest in their class and will have been the best at everything they have done. They will have amassed awards and prizes. As this year’s new crop of graduate students bounce into their research, few will be willing to accept that the system they are entering could be designed for the benefit of others, that even hard work and brilliance may well not be enough to succeed, and that they would be better off doing something else. They might use their research skills to look harder at the lot of the disposable academic. Someone should write a thesis about that.
行走的太快,忽略了身边很多的朋友;话说的太多,却忘了自己究竟想要表达什么。
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看完了,楼主你怎么想?

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2# dreamer6622
真喜欢就上,不过指望PHD脱贫基本不可能。因为前期的隐形成本太大,还不如在国内混个PHD,然后跳入企业界。
行走的太快,忽略了身边很多的朋友;话说的太多,却忘了自己究竟想要表达什么。

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读PHD又不是为了捞钱。。。。纯属喜欢学术,不喜欢的想拿这个挣钱,太扯了呃- -
学文科的大家都是因为喜欢,有这个方面的想法才来的吧~~~要不然学个商学院神马的不是更快捞钱

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读PHD又不是为了捞钱。。。。纯属喜欢学术,不喜欢的想拿这个挣钱,太扯了呃- -
学文科的大家都是因为喜欢,有这个方面的想法才来的吧~~~要不然学个商学院神马的不是更快捞钱
谦秋在元 发表于 2011-1-12 03:32


昨天我的老板还跟我提起这篇文来着。我还跟他argue了一番phd到底好不好找工作之类的。。虽说,额,我在这个问题上其实没啥发言权。。我老板是MIT的硕士,应该是对理工科的phd状态比较有感叹。。

其实我一直觉得phd的确是和建筑工没啥区别,虽说我也不觉得我见到的好些薪水还算不错的工作人士除了薪水之外和建筑工有啥区别说,所以很淡定,没什么三六九等的就是了。。

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脱贫自是不指望,不会致贫吧?

喜欢倒是真喜欢,怎奈现在工作稳定安逸,恐毕业出来还是这份工作甚至不如。。。唉,在职申请,艰难决定。。

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发表于 2011-1-12 13:08:34 |只看该作者
你看看这篇文章后面的comments就知道 这文瞎扯的成分很大,很多地方不可信。
忽视吧.
不过如ls几位说的,想通过phd脱贫的人出发点就已经是错的,无所争辩~

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文科phd一般就是走学术道路了。尽管我们可以举出很多政界牛人有文科博士经历,但这只是少数的

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3# ask1988627  

脱贫自是不指望,不会致贫吧?

喜欢倒是真喜欢,怎奈现在工作稳定安逸,恐毕业出来还是这份工作甚至不如。。。唉,在职申请,艰难决定。。

大家有什么主意?
dreamer6622 发表于 2011-1-12 11:50


我也是工作稳定安逸,在职申请,于是某校面试的时候直接问,你为嘛要放弃一份薪水不错前途大好的工作跑到个兔子不做窝的寒冷国度学这玩儿?我说,那不是正好证明我有多热爱此科。。学校网页上头不是写着we look for enthusiasm about the subject。。

话说,我觉得phd就不是进阶好工作的跳板,所以如果担心出来工作还不如现在的,那心理还是有维持现在生活水平的要求嘛,还是应该好好想想 - 你说真喜欢,那你到底喜欢文科phd什么?是喜欢它能让你在满大街的理工商毕业生中显得卓尔不群,喜欢它能满足你的兴趣,喜欢它能给你一个phd头衔,还是什么。如果是兴趣的话,那么,如果你将来毕业后不能以其谋到让你满意的工作,你还能维持这份兴趣吗?男生的话,养家的鸭梨会比较大。。

对我来说家人的支持最重要 :)

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话说,我的兴趣是语言学或者应用语言学相关,读phd就为了出来做faculty搞学术。可现在市面上的行情是一大群语言学的博士挤破头争一个教中文的讲师的位置,还好多人争不上,而那个。。。。。。。。。。。就是我现在干的。。。。

这可如何是好?

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话说,我的兴趣是语言学或者应用语言学相关,读phd就为了出来做faculty搞学术。可现在市面上的行情是一大群语言学的博士挤破头争一个教中文的讲师的位置,还好多人争不上,而那个。。。。。。。。。。。就是我现在干的。。。。
dreamer6622 发表于 2011-1-18 13:14


好奇地问一哈,既然已经在做讲师了,为什么想去读博士咧?对我来说一个语言学的phd会带来很大的不同,因为我是转行的。。你已经有业内的工作经验我觉得是不是和一路读上来的博士不一样哦。。

不过我对语言学的业内状况基本无知,所以童鞋你不要把我说的太当真哈。。我就是看到在职申请于是过来打酱油,希望大家都考虑好了再申,毕竟ask版都说了,成本太高,咱这在职申请的成本更不是一般的高。。=.=

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讲师,就是上课下课改作业上课下课改作业,只要不出两年,就完全不需要用脑子了,当体力活干吧。离退休怎么都还有三十年,我不想这样。。。

研究生毕业的时候不想做研究,想着赶紧工作,工作了几年又对研究有点儿感觉了,积累多了觉得自己还有点儿潜力,心痒痒着想挑战一下学术领域;再说美国这些个大学呢,学术气氛真是迷人,吸引着你去学点儿什么,做点儿什么。我认识的一个老师说,读博士吧,你给美国人教了那么多年中文,这个国家能回报你的也就是他们的博士program了。。

有够不现实吧?

也有现实的考虑,要想留在美国的话,tenure track才好办绿卡,讲师相当困难啊。

不过,看着版上这么多本科直接申博的,一把年纪的我心里忐忑,这么折腾实在动静大了点儿。文科博士成本高,在职申成本更高,何况我还是老人。。

痛苦啊!

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讲师,就是上课下课改作业上课下课改作业,只要不出两年,就完全不需要用脑子了,当体力活干吧。离退休怎么都还有三十年,我不想这样。。。

研究生毕业的时候不想做研究,想着赶紧工作,工作了几年又对研究有点儿感觉了,积累多了觉得自己还有点儿潜力,心痒痒着想挑战一下学术领域;再说美国这些个大学呢,学术气氛真是迷人,吸引着你去学点儿什么,做点儿什么。我认识的一个老师说,读博士吧,你给美国人教了那么多年中文,这个国家能回报你的也就是他们的博士program了。。

有够不现实吧?

也有现实的考虑,要想留在美国的话,tenure track才好办绿卡,讲师相当困难啊。

不过,看着版上这么多本科直接申博的,一把年纪的我心里忐忑,这么折腾实在动静大了点儿。文科博士成本高,在职申成本更高,何况我还是老人。。

痛苦啊!dreamer6622 发表于 2011-1-19 00:51


嘿~咱俩想法还挺相似,都是不想以后工作变成纯体力劳动觉得自己还有潜力于是想找点挑战脑细胞的事情干干。。为了以后老了的时候至少可以说,虽然我很理想化,但至少我为我的理想确实地行动过了。。

不过话说我也不觉得读博就不是体力活了。。恐怕只有更加体力活+清苦的份儿。。不管是研究还是企业工作,都要努力干,少不了明争暗斗,要做好哪儿都不容易的心理准备。。phd时间长压力大供过于求是绝对的,我看着我闺蜜和她男人在这个系统里头转了N年,从master到post-doc,说辛苦嘛是辛苦,但是她还是很开心,因为有男人嘛。。(所以才说家人的支持很重要啊很重要。。:P)

至于留在米国,绿卡的情况我是不了解的。。不去读phd的话,讲师继续做下去,还是会难以办绿卡吗?如果是那样的话似乎跟phd关系不大吧。。我觉得既然是认识的老师建议你读,那是不是可以顺便也跟他/她打听一下这种phd的就业情况啊,肯定比我乱猜的靠谱。。

在职申请到哪儿都是小众,我已经习惯了,不能跟本科直博的那些牛们比,背景不一样,需要考虑的东西更多。还是先多收集情报吧 :) 祝一切顺利~

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我发现我把这帖完全水了。。羞愧地匿。。

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14# mpromanus

那好吧。。。我也多说一句就不水了,楼上MM正解,加油!

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