关于某版主对我集体删帖，之后帖子变乱码的一点澄清。

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kuyigougou 发表于 2016-10-18 23:23
你之前那个信用卡的帖子我回复和编辑过，包括本来应该是我来删除你的帖子，我当时是想等你回复后再做处理， ...

我在想，某人有這類涉嫌教唆他人用虛假文件詐騙，為自己的生意謀利，
而某板主只是大量刪帖，而不是永久封號，(更沒有將證據移交警方)
是不是太過仁慈呢？

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wrath 发表于 2016-10-19 19:03
准备先发给他的导师

If I were his/her supervisor.....well, honesly, 關我X事?

講道德: 學生人品如何, 留給其父母take care.
大學教授, 又不是中小學老師, 三觀甚麼的, 管得來嗎?

講法律: 勞煩找執法和司法機構...
除非相關之事乃校內之事, 否則大學又不是執法機構, 又可以如何?

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peteve 发表于 2016-10-19 22:46
虚假文件？具体哪个是虚假文件，我还真没看出来。没有伪造签名，没有伪造公章。楼主只是教大家理财，又没 ...

read 8th floor, first half of point 2. (P.S. if the bank doesn't ask for the supporting document, then it will be 虚假陳述....well still a violation of law given the person sign it....)
if you still cant find it, quite sure this is your problem (either brain, or eye)

P.S.1
and the most unique point of the culture revolution is indeed not 打小报告,
but the authorities use that as a basis, and do things that is out of the law to deal with people. for sure, PRC wont tell you the truth for defending their legitimacy.

P.S.2
向老師投訴叫小報告, 又小家又沒用, 故此我不推薦
但是向有關當局舉報, 幫助社會撲沒罪行, 是良好市民會做的事.

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peteve 发表于 2016-10-19 23:04
八楼的哥们儿，你说楼主此举涉嫌违法，那请把法律条文出处贴出来，大家再议。不是一个从业者说违法就违法。 ...

had you even applied a credit card yourself before indeed?

what he/she mentioned in 8th floor is indeed quite common sense already, and every had applied a credit honestly and cardfully will know that.

Things there aren't something really specilized, or difficult to understand. (well, maybe because I am in finance too...)

at the end, are we expected to explain why sun rise from the east indeed?

[to be short, when you apply for a credit card, the bank will ask you to state your own income, and provide document to support your claim.
if someone fill in income of own dad / mum into it, and stick the document on it, which is claiming that is their own, this is already lying.
This is obviously a offense of law.
If you dont believe it, try it yourself. Be prepared to be fined or in jail.]

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peteve 发表于 2016-10-20 00:45
所以说这是灰色地带、价值观的问题，没有继续讨论的意义，也不适合放在寄托这里讨论。寄托主要是交流留学 ...

這根本不是價值觀問題。而是犯法與否的法律問題。

你老實申報了，銀行批不批，跟甚麼條件批是其business decision.

但是申報之時有不實陳述，就是法律問題。

我不勝其煩的要在這裡強調這點的是，免得有一些人，無知地以為這是灰色地區，搞錯了就以為是文化衝突。

因為這種不只是道德上的不誠實，而是出了事的話你要找律師的官司。
I.e. even you considering these kind of lying,  or haning in false document is something moral/correct,  u still violate the law.  I dont care about your value;  i just wanna remind u that:  你真係被人捉到時，呢堆乜鬼價值觀，你準備同個法官大人講啦。

如果你真的搞不清楚這個，真心建議你多學一點再出國。
畢竟人在國內，找律師也容易一點，(黑暗一點的說)也更容易用錢搞定問題。



P.S. 我發覺，很多本來應該是常識的事情，其實並不那麼common sense.  這些或許是比甚麼地方rent, mobile,  have chinese restrarunt and etc 更重要幾倍的事情…