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boreasUID：183790

167."It is impossible for an effective political leader to tell the truth all the time. Complete honesty is not a useful virtue for a politician."

With the rapid development of the technology of media and propaganda, the politicians seem to be antitheses of the mass. Various political scandals come out in newspaper, television, internet website, etc., which have a serious influence on the morality tendency of the society. However, just as wrote by Jac-Jeanques Rousseau, “Those who desire to treat politics and morality separately would never understand anything of either.” An effective political leader not only can but must be reconciled with the imperative of honesty.
First of all, admitted by all, our ordinary standards of decency and righteousness can not always applied to political area. The entire politicians know that ambiguity and compromise tend to prevail over universal truths, while the one who insists on the completely honest would be considered as the naive, utopian stance. Then the position of power would hardly occur to them and further it would be unlike to achieve her or his wishes for honesty.

Additionally, the argument described above does not mean that hypocrisy and cynicism are not all the matter of politics. It is important and necessary to distinguish between political honesty and dishonesty, despicable trick and mere rhetoric. Immanuel Kant described two types of politician, political moralist and moral politician. Political moralists consider political expediency as her or his first and basic principle, and pursue soaring ambition regardless of the cost to others. The dictator such as Hitler or Stalin and wheeler-dealer such as the Japanese leader Junichiro Koizumi are two typical representations. Hitler, a victor to some degree, nevertheless was blinded by the conviction that he was definitely right, which suggests his finally failure and abject fate.

To the contrary, moral politician firstly is moralistic and then secondly use the politics as a tool for the common good. An honest politician would pursue pragmatism built on principles, on the courage to say unpleasant things, but always with a constructive attitude. Meeting with some crucial problem related to the core interest of the common people, honest politician would not hesitate to present their ideas and fight for the mass. For example, when Winston Churchill was among the leadership of Tory Party in British, he didn't agree with a bill concerning British's rules in India and then he made an unbelieving decision, a self-imposed exile from the corridors of power that he announced his disagreement and resigned his position. Surely he was soon frozen out of power until Hitler threatened British's security. Fortunately and obviously, this honest, brave and wise man were eventually made
supreme in Britain. This example indicates that only a both moral and competent man could be qualified to leader and accepted by the public.

To sum up, a politician who succumb to naive moralizing would not go further and shoulder the burden of responsibility, while the statesmen sacrifice moral imperative would forfeit what he has own and finally be rejected by the common. If and only if the one masters the political skill and then is honest to his people, he could be effective and maximize the dual profit.

[ Last edited by staralways on 2005-6-17 at 02:59 ]

sblbaslerUID：175229

167."It is impossible for an effective political leader to tell the truth all the time. Complete honesty is not a useful virtue for a politician."
先整体看了一遍你的文章，我把我理解的提纲写下来，你看看和你的有没有出入：
TS：An effective political leader not only can but must be reconciled with the imperative of honesty.也就是你说leader们必须要诚实。
B1：你给你认为的诚实重新下了个定义，其实就是有选择的诚实。我觉得这就与你TS中那么强烈的口气有点背离了。而且反差太大，你第一段那么强烈，而接下来马上又balance一下，给人的感觉不是太严密。
B2：你又一次做的让步，你说伪善与犬儒主义也应包裹在政治当中。而且你举的说Hitler开始没人认为他是错的到后来他的失败与领导者的诚实没有直接的联系，虽然说他是在欺骗民众但这点你没有说出来呀！
B3：你又是在你定义的政治诚实下来论述的。 Churchill的例子很好，但这说明了诚实的领导者最终会被人认可，但这个ISSUE要你论述仅仅是这个层次么，难道领导者诚实仅仅是为了让人认可么，你都没有说清楚。
接着看看细节
With the rapid development of the technology of media and propaganda, the politicians seem to be antitheses of the mass. Various political scandals come out in newspaper, television, internet website, etc., which have a serious influence on the moralitymoral tendency of the society. However, just as wrote by Jac-Jeanques Rousseau, “Those who desire to treat politics and morality separately would never understand anything of either.” An effective political leader not only can but must be reconciled with the imperative of honesty.
就像前面说的你的TS太绝对了，你再仔细查查imperative的意思吧
First of all, admitted by all, our ordinary standards of decency and righteousness can not always applied不错的用词 to political area. The entire你想表达全体的？换换吧 politicians know that ambiguity and compromise tend to prevail over universal truths, while the one who insists on the completely honest would be considered as the naive, utopian stance. Then the position of power would hardly occur to them and further it would be unlike to achieve her or his wishes for honesty.

Additionally, the argument described above does not mean that hypocrisy and cynicism are not all the matter of politics.读起来很费劲 It is important and necessary to distinguish between political honesty and dishonesty, despicable trick and mere rhetoric. Immanuel Kant described two types of politician, political moralist and moral politician. Political moralists consider political expediency as her or his first and basic principle, and pursue soaring ambition regardless of the cost to others. The dictator such as Hitler or Stalin and wheeler-dealer such as the Japanese leader Junichiro Koizumi are two typical representations. Hitler, a victor to some degree, nevertheless was blinded by the conviction that he was definitely right, which suggests his finally failure and abject fate.

To the contraryon, moral politician firstly is moralistic and then secondly use the politics as a tool for the common good??. An honest politician would pursue pragmatism built on principles, on the courage to say unpleasant things, but always with a constructive attitude. Meeting with some crucial problem related to the core interest of the common people, honest politician would not hesitate to present their ideas and fight for the mass. For example, when Winston Churchill was among the leadership of Tory Party in British, he didn't agree with a bill concerning British's rules in India and then he made an unbelieving decision, a self-imposed exile from the corridors of power that he announced his disagreement and resigned his position. Surely he was soon frozen out of power until Hitler threatened British's security. Fortunately and obviously, this honest, brave and wise man were eventually made
supreme in Britain. This example indicates that only a both moral and competent man could be qualified to leader and accepted by the public.

To sum up, a politician who succumb to naive moralizing would not go further and shoulder the burden of responsibility, while the statesmen sacrificing moral imperative would forfeit what he has owned and finally be rejected by the common. If and only if the one masters the political skill and then is honest to his people, he could be effective and maximize the dual profit.
抛开逻辑，你的语言功底还可以，但要小心一下细微的语法错误，你应该是刚开始写ISSUE吧，可以看的出来你很重视语言，和所有英文水平不错的GTER们开始写ISSUE时一样，但你有的“难句”用的很生硬，难句不是让人看不懂，或者要花好长时间才能看懂，你又不是在出GRE阅读你知道么，主要是逻辑，与论证，这是你所缺乏的，我觉得凭你的能力如果把逻辑加强了应该可以拿个不错的分数，多看看范文吧
个人愚见，继续讨论

boreasUID：183790

太感谢了！
我功底不怎么样，有些语言用别人的。
逻辑的确需要加强，我仔细看看再讨论。

boreasUID：183790

“B2：你又一次做的让步，你说伪善与犬儒主义也应包裹在政治当中。”

不好意思，这句多了个not，所以这里不是让步了，这句的意思是说，伪善与玩世不恭不是政治的全部。

so猫UID：148633

167."It is impossible for an effective political leader to tell the truth all the time. Complete honesty is not a useful virtue for a politician."

With the rapid development of the technology of media and propaganda, the politicians seem to be antitheses of the mass.模版太严重 自己翻译成中文看下 上下句之间都没有逻辑 Various political scandals come out in newspaper, television, internet website, etc., which have a serious influence on the morality tendency of the society. However,为什么转折？ just as wrote by Jac-Jeanques Rousseau, “Those who desire to treat politics and morality separately would never understand anything of either.” An effective political leader not only can but must be reconciled with the imperative of honesty.

First of all, admitted by all, our ordinary standards of decency and righteousness can not always applied to political area. The entire politicians know that ambiguity and compromise tend to prevail over universal truths, while the one who insists on the completely honest would be considered as the naive, utopian stance. Then the position of power would hardly occur to them and further it would be unlike to achieve her or his wishes for honesty.英语功底还不错 可惜的是分析的力度不够 没有事实的列举 也没有漂亮的推理 可惜

Additionally, the argument described above does not mean that hypocrisy and cynicism are not all the matter of politics. It is important and necessary to distinguish between political honesty and dishonesty,不错的立论点 despicable trick and mere rhetoric. Immanuel Kant described two types of politician, political moralist and moral politician. Political moralists consider political expediency as her or his first and basic principle, and pursue soaring ambition regardless of the cost to others. The dictator such as Hitler or Stalin and wheeler-dealer such as the Japanese leader Junichiro Koizumi are two typical representations. Hitler, a victor to some degree, nevertheless was blinded by the conviction that he was definitely right, which suggests his finally failure and abject fate.建议每一段结束的时候回到你这一段的TS上 例子用得很漂亮 看来平时的工夫做得很足

To the contrary,有contrary的意思吗 我看不出来~ moral politician firstly is moralistic and then secondly use the politics as a tool for the common good. An honest politician would pursue pragmatism built on principles, on the courage to say unpleasant things, but always with a constructive attitude. Meeting with some crucial problem related to the core interest of the common people, honest politician would not hesitate to present their ideas and fight for the mass. For example, when Winston Churchill was among the leadership of Tory Party in British, he didn't agree with a bill concerning British's rules in India and then he made an unbelieving decision, a self-imposed exile from the corridors of power that he announced his disagreement and resigned his position. Surely he was soon frozen out of power until Hitler threatened British's security. Fortunately and obviously, this honest, brave and wise man were eventually made supreme in Britain. This example indicates that only a both moral and competent man could be qualified to leader and accepted by the public. 还是说moral很重要 例子用得不错 但是感觉属于一层让步 就是说单独一个moral还不行 真的好的政治家还要有ability 感觉跟TS有点点出入 不过大体没什么问题

To sum up, a politician who succumb to naive moralizing would not go further and shoulder the burden of responsibility, while the statesmen sacrifice moral imperative would forfeit what he has own and finally be rejected by the common. If and only if the one masters the political skill and then is honest to his people, he could be effective and maximize the dual profit.

总体写得不错
语言和例子都比较专业 看来文底很好
继续努力~
逻辑方面建议思维再打开一点 不要老在一个议题上绕来绕去
可以尝试从多方面多角度来看问题~
加油

boreasUID：183790

多谢 so猫
我就是觉得 举过一个例子后，感觉总结的话不会说了，指引一下吧