0510G同主题写作第一期－－argument37

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【题目】37Woven baskets characterized by a particular distinctive pattern have previously been found only in the immediate vicinity of the prehistoric village of Palea and therefore were believed to have been unique to the Palean people. Recently, however, archaeologists discovered such a " Palean" basket in Lithos, an ancient village across the Brim River from Palea. The Brim River is very deep and broad, and so the ancient Paleans could only have crossed it by boat, but there is no evidence that the Paleans had boats. And boats capable of carrying groups of people and cargo were not developed until thousands of years after the Palean people disappeared. Moreover, Paleans would have had no need to cross the river—the woods around Palea are full of nuts, berries, and small game. It follows that the so-called Palean baskets were not unique to Palea.

【中文翻译】一种具有独特花纹的编织篮子以前只在史前村庄P的临近地区发现过，因而被认为是P居民所独有的。然而最近，考古学家在一个与P存隔着一条叫做B的河流的村庄L发现了一个这样的P篮子。B的河水很深很宽，所以古代P人只能坐船穿过它，但没有证据表明P的人拥有船只。而且能够运载大量人和货物的船只直到P人消失几千年之后才出现。而且，P人应该没有必要穿过这条河流――P周围的林地有丰富的果实和小动物。这表明这种所谓的P篮子不是P村的人所独有的。

【注意】题目种画线的地方即为出现推理的地方，读题的时候要注意一下这样的地方，一般都会又逻辑漏洞。

【题目逻辑关系】
①B的河水很深很宽→要过河必须by boat
②没有证据表明P的人拥有船只→P就没有船只→P就过不了河
③能够运载大量人和货物的船只直到P人消失几千年后出现→P当时没有船过河
④P周围有果实和动物→P就不需要过河
⑤不过河→篮子就到不了L地
⑥P的篮子不能通过过河L地，L地又有篮子→篮子不是P地特有的

【题目逻辑关系存在的漏洞及分析】
① 过河的办法有很多种，虽然没有船只，也许有桥，也许有当地人发明的过和工具，例如木筏等东西
②no evidence ≠ no    没有证据表明P人有船只不代表P人没有船只，也许证据被破坏了，等等（BTW，我个人认为这一点不是很重要）
③这是不相干的东西，小船只就可以过去了啊，干嘛一定要运载大量人和货物的船只呢？
④P人过河的理由可以有很多种：比如L地很发达，有很多先进的产品，比如L地很富饶，为了抢占领地，比如P的人和L的人通婚。。。云云 各种理由
⑤篮子到L地不一定必须P人过去，L地的人可以自己过来交换，甚至抢等等
⑥可能经过气候地形变迁等等篮子漂泊到L地去了，或者也许经过很久之后P地的人迁移了消失了等等，篮子在不断的流传中到了L地。。云云

【经过分析后得到简单的逻辑线】
河很深很宽不能说明过河必须用船；即便没有证据表明当时P拥有船只，也不能说明P地的人就真的没有船；即便P地的人没有船，过不了河，也不能说明篮子就过不去；即便当时篮子过不去，也不能说明L地的人也会生产篮子。  

OK，大家开工吧。作文自己开新贴，然后在这里跟贴留下连接。有什么问题欢迎讨论。:)

[需要大家注意的是:请不要在这里贴自己的习作,请将习作发表在坛子里面,然后将链接贴进来.除了习作链接之外,更欢迎大家把对于题目的想法拿出来讨论,积极参与者会得到奖励哦!]--------by 鬼谷子


BTW，偶不是斑竹，来帮忙的，写的不好大家谅解噢。呵呵

[ Last edited by 鬼谷子 on 2005-7-6 at 19:51 ]

鬼谷子UID：159645

等待中

Henrry_FFUID：165187

顶上！支持：）

yogurt4UID：198389

强力支持~

ZEALPALADINUID：192560

占座先

linxiao1983UID：203095

明天一定要把我的argu第一帖送到这里！占个座先：）给自己压力，一定要写！

xiaolangUID：179729

我会来看的~占一个

大门牙UID：205197

还没有开始搞阿狗，呵呵，明天一早就写第一篇，呵呵，占个位置先！！！

亲亲的小野猪UID：194313

只是一个提纲：）
1)        The author unfairly assumes that there did exist a Brim River as deep and broad as now. As known to us that plates keep changing during a long history, it is entirely possible that there is no river or only a small river between the village of Palea and Lithos thousands of years ago. Therefore, it is easy for Palean people to travel to Lithos.
2)        Even if there was a deep river between Palea and Lithos, the author cannot hastily draw the conclusion that Palea people did not have boats to help them cross the river.
3)        The author falsely concludes that Palea people have had no need to cross the river based on the fact that there are enough foods for them. However, there may be other cause for Palea to cross the river. For example, they want to exchange something with Lithos people.
4)        Even if   ,The mere fact that a “Palean” basket is discovered in Lithos is scant evidence that Lithos people can also make this kind of basket by themselves. We can imagine if they do know how to wave basket like that, they would like to make more. It is entirely possible that people who are living after Palean people can make boat. They may find some of the baskets remained by Palean people casually and bring them to Lithos, and that why there are only a few baskets in Lithos.

seraph_hydeUID：184809

我写完了 没限时
https://bbs.gter.net/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=296118
欢迎来拍！

gglnba1UID：202786

https://bbs.gter.net/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=296126
我的

gglnba1UID：202786

好久不写ARGU,还不太适应,时间都不够

armstrongUID：204256

https://bbs.gter.net/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=296129

ZEALPALADINUID：192560

基本上是按照同主题的分析写出来的，限时基本成功

另外，随着考试的临近，阿狗难题难题的关注度相信也会越来越高，至少我看到本期同主题有如沐甘霖的感觉，希望斑竹能多推一些阿狗难题的同主题，感激中！

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[ Last edited by ZEALPALADIN on 2005-7-6 at 22:20 ]

chenda8201UID：171368

刚才写了，去洗个澡，回来一看，哇，这么多人都贴上来了
看看自己的，第一次写，超时（30min只写了279个单词。。。）不说了，还惨不忍睹。。。
看看自己先再改改，然后再发上来
而且对于argument都还没有开始，最近只是在看issue

btw：感觉argument讨论的余地不是太大吧
哪些错误一般都是大家认同的
关键只是谦词造句以及如何将驳斥的话用enlish表达出来