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"It is the artist, not the critic,* who gives society something of lasting value."
*a person who evaluates works of art, such as novels, films, music, paintings, etc.
艺术家而不是评论家带给了社会一些具有持久价值的东西。
*评论家指的是评价艺术作品的人,例如小说、电影、绘画等。

提纲:
明确提出艺术家(及其作品)带给社会具有持久价值东西
1,从艺术家和批评家的角色来看,批评家本来就不是为了创造持久价值的
2,批评家的口味众多、多变、不能代表广大人民意见,常常忽略了真正的巨作  梵高例
3,持久价值的含义,从本质上来说,是艺术家的生平和作品给后世观众带来恒远的影响


Artists and critics are highly interdependent--the value of the work of artists is evaluated
by critics, more precisely, the significance of artists themselves are determined by contemporary critics. But take a look at all those masterpieces today, a large scale of them are dismissed by the critics of their times. The names of the great masters and the works they left behind are still glaring in the museum, what about critics and their clichés? They are only written in water.

From the perspective of respective career goal, artist and critic are very different occupation, thus contributing differently to the development of art and the society as a whole. Artists are devoted to present works which is of lasting value and could stand the test of the people and the time, this is the meaning of their career, while critics are expected to find some sparkles in the works of artists so that they can be appreciated by more population and have greater influence on later arts. Although the comment critics gave about certain piece of work may be crucial to the social success and popularity of it, it is the works themselves and the symbolic meaning inside of them that are appreciated by the audience, not the comment of the critics.


Besides, the tastes of critics may be diverse and inconsistent, neither can they represent the taste of the massive people. This explains why many great work were depreciated by contemporary critics but favored by the next generation, even till now. The famous Vincent Van Gogh never sold a piece of his paintings, his name was not even mentioned at the salons where critics had chats, but the sunflowers and starry nights strike every spectators into their hearts, and the price of his painting went record high. This example demonstrated that critics are not always sensitive and clairvoyant. Arrogant aristocrats as they often are, they may fail to sense the preference of the majority and the future trend of arts. Their comments are based on their own emotion and experience and are very personal.


Most importantly, the term "lasting value" indicates that every audience can savour the art work over and over and reveal some deeper meaning and inspiration each time they review it. Only in that sense can a piece of art gave really profound and renewable impact to the society--the lasting value. The comment of critics could never do that.

In sum, critics are not meant to giving "lasting value", nor are they qualified or able to leave a great impression in the audiences' eyes. On the contrary, the meaning of the artists' career and their works are truly something that can inspire people for a very long time, they are the true elements of impacts.


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提纲:
明确提出艺术家(及其作品)带给社会具有持久价值东西
1,从艺术家和批评家的角色来看,批评家本来就不是为了创造持久价值的
2,批评家的口味众多、多变、不能代表广大人民意见,常常忽略了真正的巨作  梵高例
3,持久价值的含义,从本质上来说,是艺术家的生平和作品给后世观众带来恒远的影响


Artists and critics are highly interdependent--the value of the work of artists is evaluated
by critics, more precisely, the significance of artists themselves are determined by contemporary critics. But take a look at all those masterpieces today, a large scale of them are dismissed by the critics of their times. The names of the great masters and the works they left behind are still glaring in the museum, what about critics and their clichés? They are only written in water.
觉得第一段没有能够清晰明确的提出观点,虽然看的出来是倾向于艺术家的,好像没很好地起到总领全文的作用

From the perspective of respective career goal, artist and critic are very different occupation, thus contributing differently to the development of art and the society as a whole. Artists are devoted to present works which is of lasting value and could stand the test of the people and the time, this is the meaning of their career, while critics are expected to find some sparkles in the works of artists so that they can be appreciated by more population and have greater influence on later arts. Although the comment critics gave about certain piece of work may be crucial to the social success and popularity of it, it is the works themselves and the symbolic meaning inside of them that are appreciated by the audience, not the comment of the critics.
是不是把主题句清晰地摆在最前面更好些?

Besides, the tastes of critics may be diverse and inconsistent, neither can they represent the taste of the massive people. This explains why many great work were depreciated by contemporary critics but favored by the next generation, even till now. The famous Vincent Van Gogh never sold a piece of his paintings, his name was not even mentioned at the salons where critics had chats, but the sunflowers and starry nights strike every spectators into their hearts, and the price of his painting went record high. 这个例子是不是说的再清楚些?为什么观众喜欢还没有卖出去?This example demonstrated that critics are not always sensitive and clairvoyant. Arrogant aristocrats as they often are, they may fail to sense the preference of the majority and the future trend of arts. Their comments are based on their own emotion and experience and are very personal.


Most importantly, the term "lasting value" indicates that every audience can savour the art work over and over and reveal some deeper meaning and inspiration each time they review it. Only in that sense can a piece of art gave really profound and renewable impact to the society--the lasting value. The comment of critics could never do that.
我认为 如果你觉得这点最重要 放在前面说比较好吧 而且觉得这段和第二段的本质是一样的 就是说the works themselves contain lasting value.

In sum, critics are not meant to giving "lasting value", nor are they qualified or able to leave a great impression in the audiences' eyes. On the contrary, the meaning of the artists' career and their works are truly something that can inspire people for a very long time, they are the true elements of impacts.

总的来说 感觉你的观点有些绝对 而且没有能够清晰的说明只有艺术家带该社会永恒的价值 建议你举一些艺术家的例子 然后分析是艺术家本身而不是评论家留下永恒价值

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发表于 2010-3-6 12:57:22 |只看该作者
"It is the artist, not the critic,* who gives society something of lasting value."
*a person who evaluates works of art, such as novels, films, music, paintings, etc.
艺术家而不是评论家带给了社会一些具有持久价值的东西。
*评论家指的是评价艺术作品的人,例如小说、电影、绘画等。

其实我的观点只有一个,就是无论评论家是蔑视还是赞扬一个作品,本质上是作品本身给社会和观众带来lasting value

Artists and critics are highly interdependent--the value of the work of artists is evaluated by critics, more precisely, the significance of artists themselves are determined by contemporary critics. But take a look at all those masterpieces today, a large scale of them are dismissed by the critics of their times. The names of the great masters and the works they left behind are still glaring in the museum, what about critics and their clichés? They are only written in water.

In the first place, most importantly, the term "lasting value" indicates that every audience can savor the art work over and over and reveal some deeper meaning and inspiration each time they review it. Only in that sense can a piece of art gave really profound and renewable impact to the society--the lasting value. The comment of critics could never do that.
我也觉得关于term defination的放在第一段比较好

Then looking from the perspective of respective career goal, artist and critic are very different occupation, thus contributing differently to the development of art and the society as a whole. Artists are devoted to present works which is of lasting value and could stand the test of the people and the time, this is the meaning of their career, while critics are expected to find some sparkles in the works of artists so that they can be appreciated by more population and have greater influence on later arts. Despite the fact that the comment critics gave about certain piece of work may be crucial to the social success and popularity of it, and that critics can help artistic laymen to appreciate art works, essentially it is the works themselves and the symbolic meaning inside of them that are appreciated by the audience, not the comment of the critics.


Besides, the tastes of critics may be diverse and inconsistent due to different cultural, educational, religious and academic background of the critics; neither can they represent the taste of the massive people. This explains why many great works were depreciated by contemporary critics but favored by the next generation, even till now. The famous Vincent Van Gogh never sold a piece of his paintings; his name was not even mentioned at the salons in Paris where critics had chats because their noble tastes belittle Van Gogh as a rustic dauber. But the passionate sunflowers and starry nights strike every spectator into their hearts, and the price of his painting went record high. This example demonstrated that critics are not always reliable and clairvoyant. Arrogant aristocrats as they often are, they may fail to sense the preference of the majority and the future trend of arts. Their comments are based on their own emotion and experience and are very personal.

In sum, although it is hard to deny the fact that critics play an important role in discovering new arts and helping ordinary people to appreciate them, critics are neither meant to giving "lasting value"—they just help artists in that process, nor can they leave a lasting impression in the audiences' hearts. On the contrary, the meaning of the artists' career and their works are truly something that can inspire people for a very long time, they are the true elements of impacts.


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发表于 2010-3-13 23:11:35 |只看该作者
我觉得写得不错啊!比我水平高多了,等我练练以后和你们多交流!

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多练练,我觉得我现在都比一星期前写得好了,加油加油

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发表于 2010-3-14 22:01:13 |只看该作者
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Artists and critics are highly interdependent—the value of the works of artists is evaluated by critics, even the significance of artists themselves is usually determined by contemporary critics. But the names of the great masters and the works they left are still glaring in the museum, what about critics and their clichés? They are only written in water. The reason behind is that the lasting value of art is embodied in the artist and their works, while the critics only helped to promote that value.

Primarily, the term "lasting value" indicates that every audience can savor the art work over and over and reveal some deeper meaning and inspiration each time they review it. Only in that sense can a piece of art gave really profound and renewable impact to the society—the lasting value.
我还是把lasting value的定义摆出来,因为这是我对题目作的唯一限定

How do artists create lasting value? Firstly by contemplating their observations, understandings and emotions about the surrounding world and by instilling them into their works. In this way the raw sentiments and impulsions of the artists could be authentically recorded for the later generation to appreciate. Love and peace, beauty and virtue, austerity and pain, such are eternal subjects of art that can survive the test of time and arouse similar resonance in audience from different ears. The painting of “peasant eating potatoes” “sun flowers” by Van Gogh are so touching because they conveyed the painter’s great compassion for people’s misery and affliction to audience. Emotion resonance in art appreciation gave art works the most important lasting value.
原因1普世情感共鸣的价值

Secondly, artists’ works create lasting value by reflecting the actual social, political and economic condition of their times. Art derives its essence from life. Although artists’ works may not depict the actual social condition directly, in general they are inevitably influenced by the circumference of the time, thus help audience to understand the people and events in history in a comprehensive way. “Dream of the Red Chamber”, literature masterpiece completed by Cao Xueqin in 18th century which features unbeknown feudalism and romance in Qing dynasty, is highly appreciated through times and has triggered widespread study on this novel. Those elements of historic significance in art works reinforced their lasting value.

原因2 历史参考的价值

Then what do critics’ contribute to the “lasting value”? Critics are expected to find some sparkles in art works and help people, even laymen, to appreciate them, thus promoting the “lasting value” of the art works. Unfortunately, few of them did a good job. The tastes of critics may be diverse and inconsistent due to their different cultural, educational, religious and academic background; neither can their noble taste represent that of the massive people, so they often fail to unveil the “lasting value”. Van Gogh never sold a piece of his paintings because his coeval critics in Paris detracted them as rustic and rude; Cao’s book was banned by the Qing officials for obscenity. Besides, no aesthetic appreciation or satisfaction could be achieved through listening to critic’s comments without actually seeing the art work. In other words, critic’s comment contains little “lasting value”, they are nothing but by-product of art works. For the reasons above, it would only be safe to say that critics help to discover and popularize the “lasting value” in art works rather than to create it.
重定义批评家的工作,1,他们由于受到各种因素影响经常不能发现好作品,2,他们评论的本身是不能带来持久价值的。

In sum, although it is hard to deny the fact that critics play an important role in discovering new art and helping ordinary people to appreciate it, critics are neither meant to give "lasting value" nor are they capable of leaving a lasting impression in the audiences' hearts. On the contrary, the artists' works are truly something that can inspire people for a very long time, they are the true elements of impacts.


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