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TOPIC: ISSUE1 - "We can usually learn much more from people whose views we share than from people whose views contradict our own; disagreement can cause stress and inhibit learning."


Do people learn more from the ones whose views that we share than from people whose opinions that we do not agree with?The speaker asserts so,since disgreement can cause tension and prohibit people from learning.I concede that it is a good means to learn from the persons who have the identical idea with ourselves.However,I do believe that disagreement is not necessarily causing conflict between people.

Admittedly,it is easier for people to accept the ideas which are the same to our own,or rather,people are more likely to accept the ideas in a harmonious environment.Obviously,we human kind are social creatures,nothing is more important for us than being a part of a whole community.Agreement is the very signal which makes us integrete the whole community,agreement is also the siginal which infers our group identity.

One famous experiment held in the U.S.A several decades ago,which is deviding a class into two groups randomly.Students in one group were told that they are
smarter than the students in another group and received encouragement and praise whatever they did.When they grew up,these students who always receive positive signals perform much better than their conterparts who donot receive any positive encouragement.


However,disagreement is not invariably causing stress and undermine the learning,especially when the opposite opinions are not proposed in a hostile way.For example,debate,which is favored by many intellectuals and college students,can make people who involved learn much more.Traditionally,we learn things just
from certain pespectives,which limited our sight and view,while debate can give people information from all perspectives,making people not only know about the positive aspects of the thing,but also the negative aspects and giving people comprehensive information.


Another reason why disagreement is not necessarily undermine the learning is that different people have divergent characters.Some people can treat the disagreement in a very positive way since they know that the one who hold the opposite opinion just wants to improve the situation or enhance the
well-being for all.

If people always receive agreements,it is also detrimental to establish a healthy charactor.Namely, people are getting used to the agreement,ao they think that they can always make the best dicisions,resulting in arbitary charactor.

To conclude,agreement and disagreement can both benefit the people in terms of learning.If a person has a healthy mental psycology and treat disagreement in a correct way,they can also learn well.


TOPIC: ARGUMENT4 - The following was posted on an Internet real estate discussion site.

"Of the two leading real estate firms in our town-Adams Realty and Fitch Realty-Adams is clearly superior. Adams has 40 real estate agents. In contrast, Fitch has 25, many of whom work only part-time. Moreover, Adams' revenue last year was twice as high as that of Fitch, and included home sales that averaged $168,000, compared to Fitch's $144,000. Homes listed with Adams sell faster as well: ten years ago, I listed my home with Fitch and it took more than four months to sell; last year, when I sold another home, I listed it with Adams, and it took only one month. Thus, if you want to sell your home quickly and at a good price, you should use Adams."


This argument,well-presented as it may seem,after being seriously contemplating,yet it is not well-reasoned.The reasons are listed in the following paragraphs.

First and foremost,the arguer's assertion that Adams Realty is clearly superior
relies on the fact that Adam has 40 agents while Fitch has only 25.However,the arguer provides no evidence that the more the agents,the better the firm.It is entirely possible that the 40 agents of Adam are all small agents while the 25 agents of Fitch are all big ones.Or perhaps each of the 20 agents is perform better than each of the agents in Fitch.Without considering and ruling out other potential possibilities,the arguer can not draw any defensible conclusion.


Secondly,the arguer's conclusion also rests on the assumption that the more the revenue,the better the firm.However,there exists other explainations.For example,what's the expense of each firm?It is known to all that the profit not only relies on the revenue, but also depends on the expense.Without further information,the arguer's conclusion is unjustifiable and imprudent.

Thirdly,the arguer claims that the Adams sells faster based on the fact that ten year's ago,it took more than four months to sell a house by Fitch while it just took one month ten years later by Adams.However,there are some other factors which can contribute to this.Perhaps,ten years ago,the house is difficult to sell irrespective of the firm.Or perhaps,the house ten years ago in a very unconvinient community while the home ten years later locates in a convinient place where the transportation is very advanced.Without ruling out the other scenarios,the arguer can not convince me.

To conclude,the arguer's conclusion rests on a series of unsubstantiated and indefensible evidences,which render it unjustifiable and imprudent as it stands.More detailed evidence and substantiated information should be collected to draw a much better conclusion.
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发表于 2010-4-6 14:42:34 |只看该作者
Do people learn more from the ones whose views that we share than from people whose opinions that we do not agree with? The speaker asserts so, since disgreementdisagreement can cause tension and prohibit people from learning. I concede that it is a good means to learn from the persons who have the identical idea with ourselves(us). However, I do believe that disagreement is not necessarily causing conflict between people.(这句话的问题在于stress and inhibit learning不等于conflict,或者在某种层面上disagreement就是conflict,我看了下文明白你的意思,你是说disagreement也可以让人们学到东西,但是这句总说就不好,或者你可以说disagreement also benefit learning of people to some extent之类的,当然我说的也不好,大概就是这个意思)
Admittedly, it is easier for people to accept the ideas which are the same to our own, or rather, people are more likely to accept the ideas in a harmonious environment. Obviously, we human kind are social creatures, nothing is more important for us than being a part of a whole community. Agreement is the very signal which makes us integrete(integrate) the whole community, agreement is also the siginal(signal) which infers our group identity.(这一段的问题是,说理大而空,不必要上升到这么大的高度说人类如何社会如何,可以就常识来说人们就是容易接受相同的观点,因为思考的角度相同,思维方式相同就更容易引起共鸣,而这种探讨会产生和谐的讨论氛围,易于问题的深入研究等等,因为你说到了人类共处和谐很重要和易于通过相同观点学习之间并没有直接的联系,人类共处和谐是要求包容忍让,和agreement并不相同)
One famous experiment held in the U.S.A several decades ago, which is deviding(divided) a class into two groups randomly. Students in one group were told that they are smarter than the students in another group and received encouragement and praise whatever they did. When they grew up, these students who always receive positive signals perform much better than their conterparts(counterparts) who donot(did not) receive any positive encouragement.(这个例子是一个赞赏教育成功的案例,并不能有效支持论点,你只是将agreement 和赞赏混淆,称赞孩子们聪明并不是说同意他们的观点)
However, disagreement is not invariably causing stress and undermine the learning, especially when the opposite opinions are not proposed in a hostile way. For example, debate, which is favored by many intellectuals and college students, can make people who involved learn much more. Traditionally, we learn things just from certain pespectives, which limited our sight and view, while debate can give people information from all perspectives, making people not only know about the positive aspects of the thing, but also the negative aspects and giving people comprehensive information.(这一段写的不错)
Another reason why disagreement is not necessarily undermine the learning is that different people have divergent characters. Some people can treat the disagreement in a very positive way since they know that the one who hold the opposite opinion just wants to improve the situation or enhance the well-being for all.(这一段没太看明白,是想说有些人能够正确理解反对观点?如果是这样的话主旨句就显得不太清晰,人们性格的分歧不能说明disagreement不会阻碍learning,只能说如果可以正确理解分歧,那么分歧就不会阻碍learning,比如性格不同,观点不同,但目的是一样的,那么为了共同的目的可以求同存异,这样是不是好一点?)
If people always receive agreements, it is also detrimental to establish a healthy charactor. Namely, people are getting used to the agreement, ao they think that they can always make the best dicisions, resulting in arbitrary
charactor.
To conclude, agreement and disagreement can both benefit the people in terms of learning. If a person has a healthy mental psycology and treat disagreement in a correct way, they can also learn well.
总结一下你的观点,agreementdisagreement都有益于learning,而是否能够深入学习理解取决于人们对于agreementdisagreement的态度。应该是这样没错吧?观点是好的,也有思路,但问题是段落零散,整体发展的逻辑不是特别清晰,例子和观点可以合并,不必另写,第二,说理过程空泛的情况还是存在的,尽量细致并注意观点与例证的契合,第三,题目和行文中显现出你对几个概念的混淆,我在文中说了,issue最好还是要严谨,观点的表达和例子的选择要确切,不能似是而非。最后就是错别字不少,要注意,还有标点后面记得空一格,写完用word检查下吧。
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大谢~:handshake

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Do people learn more from the ones whose views that we share than from people whose opinions that we do not agree with? The speaker asserts so, since disagreement can cause tension and prohibit people from learning. I concede that it is a good means to learn from the persons who have the identical idea with us. However, I do believe that disagreement is not necessarily causing conflict, consequently impede learning between people.

Admittedly, it is easier for people to accept the ideas which are identical with their own. This is primarily because people who share the same opinions may have identical perspective and view-point, which serve useful purpose for further learning. Another reason why agreement boosts learning can be explained as follows: people have psychological demand to be accepted by their peers while agreement is the very factor that can satisfy this demand of people, since agreement is a strong signal that infers acceptance and respect. I will illustrate a conspicuous example to prove that agreement facilitate learning. One famous example held in the U.S.A several decades ago, which is divided a class into two groups randomly. Students in one group, whatever they say and whatever they do, can always received consent or even approval, while students in another group, no matter what they say or what they do, invariably been told that they were wrong and they should had done that in another way. When they grew up, the students in former group were more interested in learning and had a higher university enrolment rate than that of their counterparts in the latter group.


However, disagreement is not invariably causing stress and undermine the learning, especially when the opposite opinions are not proposed in a hostile way. For example, debate, which is favored by many intellectuals and college students, can make people who involved learn much more. Traditionally, we learn things just  from certain perspectives, which limited our sight and view, while debate can give people information from all perspectives, making people not only know about the positive aspects of the thing, but also the negative aspects and giving people comprehensive information.


Another reason why disagreement is not necessarily undermine the learning is that the attitudes toward disagreement vary from person to person. Some people who regard the disagreement as a way to find truth may learn much more from disagreement, since intrigued by the disagreement, they will try harder to find the reasons which caused the disagreement and the ways to address the disagreement.

If people always receive agreements, it is also detrimental to establish a healthy character. Namely, people who get used to the agreement and think that they can always make the best decisions, always end up with a arbitrary character.

To conclude, agreement and disagreement can both benefit the people in terms of learning. If a person has a healthy mental psychology and treat disagreement in a correct way, he or she can also learn well.

我修改了下,九九再帮俺看下可以了吗~
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说得有道理,确实不错,先顶顶再说!!!!

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