ETS说我作文雷同，我给它回了这封信！

fengchi860602UID: 2678278

一直查不到1006G成绩，之前联系ETS总说让我等。刚才给我回话说我作文雷同了。Issue部分。我给ETS回了下面这封信。个人信息省略了哈！

A Letter of Demonstration

Dear Miss Waleer,

Greetings! I am a Chinese student who took GRE this year. Unfortunately by far I could neither view my scores online nor hear my scores on the telephone.

To settle the problem I have got in touch with ETS many times. Each time someone told me that my scores had not been processed yet and suggested me to wait a bit longer. But today when I called ETS again, a man told me that you found some “UNUSUAL SIMILARITIES” between my issue work and other published resources. And he also suggested me to get in touch with you to demonstrate that I did not memorize any materials written by others.

I do understand that the aim of analytical writing tasks in GER is to show one’s own logic and creativity. So I NEVER copied any other’s works but performed the tasks ALL BY MYSELF. In my email there is also a copy of my issue works that I wrote when I was preparing for the analytical writing section, which includes an issue work that I practiced online on GRE ScoreItNow and other 40 issue works written by myself.

It is true that one of the two issue tasks that I encountered during the test was one that I had practiced previously (see Page 14 in the attachment), so I chose this topic to write on. And I am sure that you can find my test works and my practice works are almost the same, indicating that they should be written by the same person. But if you check all my issue works carefully enough, you should be able to find there is a unique and consistent habit of choosing words and phrases, picking up sentence structures, and developing ideas. Consequently it is obvious that all these works are written by the same person – that is me!

So if you think that I memorized and copied other people’s works for the test, then all my practice works should be copied from the same person. Can this be true? Absolutely not! How can a person copy and memorize as many as 40 writing samples from a single person when he is preparing for a test? If he does, then he must be insane!

I want to state it again that I did not copy anything from other people. So I do hope that you can examine all my practice works carefully and have a second evaluation on my test works. But if you still fail to offer a reasonable answer to me after the broad review, then I am going to take some further steps (including lawsuit) to protect my legal rights!

Thank you for your patience and hope to hear from you soon.


XXX
6th August, 2010

irvine666UID: 2575525

你可以为自己辩护，但是ETS如果没有充足的证据绝对不会判你雷同的，他们更怕麻烦。多数时候他们更喜欢给个2-2.5这种分了事。
一封EMAIL基本一点用都没有，说不定ETS看都没看完直接扔了，他们每天都要处理几百封这种类似的信件口口声声说自己没抄的。
你需要拿出证据，并申请ETS的审核流程来确定你是清白的才行。
口头上的功夫大可以不必了。

fengchi860602UID: 2678278

你可以为自己辩护，但是ETS如果没有充足的证据绝对不会判你雷同的，他们更怕麻烦。多数时候他们更喜欢给个2-2.5这种分了事。
一封EMAIL基本一点用都没有，说不定ETS看都没看完直接扔了，他们每天都要处理几百封这种 ...
irvine666 发表于 2010-8-7 01:26

呵呵 版主可能没看清楚我的Email呢 我说了还发了40篇我写的issue习作给他们 其中就有我考试时碰到并选写的那篇 毫无疑问可以通过这些习作看出个人文风 一个正常的人是不可能去抄袭40篇同一个人写的作文的……

irvine666UID: 2575525

NONO，所谓的抄袭是指你直接引用了别人的文字而不加以说明。引用5%也可能被判，50%也可能被判，美国卡这个严的很，因为这是基本的学术素质。
所以不一定是你的论述出问题了，你的例子组织方式，文章开头，结尾这种不经意的地方都有可能判抄袭，只要你是从公众网页或者书籍上抄来的。
ETS不会看你的40篇ISSUE的，放心他们没那功夫，他们唯一能做的就是改判的时候让3个老师来判断你的ISSUE和涉嫌抄袭的文献的相似度。如果有2个老师认为你抄袭，那就彻底完蛋了

hyacinthUID: 2184492

plagiarism is not simply  "copy"

if you used someone's IDEA and did not quote or give them credits, that is plagiarism too...which is an issue most of the Chinese GRE takers have

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarism

hope it helps

fengchi860602UID: 2678278

呵呵，ETS当然没有闲心看我的其他习作。不过我的所有issue习作都是绝对原创，包括开头结尾中间展开都没有copy过任何人的任何文章。其实我早就放弃去美国读研了，所以ETS怎么判问题不大，但我希望能得到一个reasonable的说法……

lingli_xiaoaiUID: 172506

I think argue with ETS is fine.. you have every right to do this.. if you successfully make ETS taking back the decision and give your score, be sure to share with us or any other response worthy others to look at.
Good Luck.
Bottom line is I think it is good for you to do this, people should argue whatever they believe is not true, it is good attitude nevertheless.

cainiao2011UID: 2759854

这个帖子一定要顶上去，我国就该多一点像楼主这样敢于维权敢于抗争甚至不惜“take some further steps (including lawsuit) to protect my legal rights!! ” 的人！

但话说回来，今年中国gter3.0虽多，但雷同确实很少。要知道，判雷同，对ETS而言，也是需要点“勇气”的。否则，若随随便便把3.0左右的都这么判，那中国人还不和他闹翻？我感觉他们判了你雷同，恐怕楼主的文章确实有点问题，否则一般是给个3.0-的分数了事的。他连个分数都不给你，多半是已经抓住你的切实把柄了。。。实话实说，请勿见怪。若楼主真的没有引用什么人的话的话，搞不好巧合，你正好和某些文章语言或者例子相同了；或者，你的语言能力对某些优美句子已经达到了收发自如的地步——已经完全吸收成为自己的了，不感觉是在用别人的了。

我们中国学生写issue或多或少总参考过些材料的。像我本人，就大幅度参考了《北美范文》。不过，我只用中文记例子，从不会用英文把它们背下来。考试时，我就用自己的语言来翻译这些中文例子，宁可写得差一点（考试时我的Issue也是练过的一篇）。但是，我很多句式，确实是模仿《北美范文》的，比如：“I concede that ... . However, .... After all ...”等等，我常用，但，也没有给判雷同(话说，判雷同好像是计算机判的，因此人人平等)。可见，楼主真的碰得比较巧，“雷同”得比较厉害了。。。

fengchi860602UID: 2678278

这会儿再上网查分变成了：
view scores online
important message
view scores online is temporarily unavailable
不知道这说明了什么 ETS正在重判吗？

szmanutdUID: 2727152

原来帖子挪这来了 我还以为没了呢~
应该是的 如果不是原来的NA的话 其实我挺赞同lz的做法的 既然认为不是剽窃 当然要申述 祝你好运

fengchi860602UID: 2678278

现在又变成N/A了 不知道ETS在干嘛…… 我绝对没剽窃或者抄袭 将申述进行到底！

8848kidUID: 2428221

写得好，顶一下

caiyunjiaoUID: 2774098

做得对！写得好！身正不怕影子斜！就应该为自己征得权益

szmanutdUID: 2727152

问问他们让他们提供详细的剽窃段落给你看

mikestoneUID: 2734495

祝好运！