关于托福在申请中地位问题

狐狸大叔UID: 2342950

不懂

GuessyUID: 2184792

Ive heard rumors saying if your TOEFL is not high enough (especially speaking section), you cant get a TA position in the US.
Since Im not in the US so I cant tell if its true or not. So I respect that saying and try not to argue with it.

But I know for sure that, in Canada, as long as your TOEFL is above the minimum requirement, it doesnt matter its 1 point higher or 30 point higher. I dont see why 30 point higher TOEFL is better than 1 point higher TOEFL. If they really do count language skill in admission, then they should ask all domestic students to take the TOEFL too and use that to compare.

狐狸大叔UID: 2342950

不过加国的托福要求比较高

jiang08UID: 2391146

If they really do count language skill in admission, then they should ask all domestic students to take the TOEFL too and use that to compare.

exactly
that's why ibt is different from GRE

GuessyUID: 2184792

不过加国的托福要求比较高
狐狸大叔 发表于 2011-10-26 03:21

Its not really that high, but its super weird.
Like some arts programs at ubc requires 80 ibt, but biochem requires 106....>.<

I keep getting asked like "A school requires 100 ibt but B school (with better ranking) only require 80, why? do I have a bigger chance at B school? " And I had a hart time explaining how TOEFL requirement does not relate to the academic requirement, and thus cannot be used to judge which school is easier to get in.

狐狸大叔UID: 2342950

最变态的不是总分，是每项都有个分数，更容易挂，lol

狐狸大叔UID: 2342950

不过美国倒是还有个很阴险的东西
现在很多学校自己搞个考试
相当变态
考不过得去上语言班（学校开的，当然）
上了也没啥用

ericabellyUID: 3171556

辜鸿铭不该count。他从小就被收为养子，10岁就去英国了。

how? What about Gu Hongming?
jiang08 发表于 2011-10-26 03:17

GuessyUID: 2184792

不过美国倒是还有个很阴险的东西
现在很多学校自己搞个考试
相当变态
考不过得去上语言班（学校开的，当然）
上了也没啥用
狐狸大叔 发表于 2011-10-26 03:28

haha. A friend of mine at Cornell was taking the whatever TA training course designed for ESL students, and according to him, as long as you are not born in the US, you should take that course in order to be an TA. So there was a student who was born out of US but returned to US when he was like 2 years old had to take that stupid course...

狐狸大叔UID: 2342950

关键那个training其实没啥用

GuessyUID: 2184792

关键那个training其实没啥用
狐狸大叔 发表于 2011-10-26 03:32

exactly...

ericabellyUID: 3171556

如果想这课能提高英语水平那是指望不上。

但一般还会讲一些上课技巧阿什么的，如果你有打算混学术圈的话，还是有点小用的。

关键那个training其实没啥用
狐狸大叔 发表于 2011-10-26 03:32

GuessyUID: 2184792

如果想这课能提高英语水平那是指望不上。

但一般还会讲一些上课技巧阿什么的，如果你有打算混学术圈的话，还是有点小用的。


ericabelly 发表于 2011-10-26 03:45

well, maybe but then again if it really focuses on teaching skills then it should be required by all TAs not only those ESL ones...

ericabellyUID: 3171556

这得看学校的policy。有的学校确实有让所有的TA都上的课。实事求是地说，中国学生表达能力是要差一些。

well, maybe but then again if it really focuses on teaching skills then it should be required by all TAs not only those ESL ones...
Guessy 发表于 2011-10-26 03:50

GuessyUID: 2184792

这得看学校的policy。有的学校确实有让所有的TA都上的课。实事求是地说，中国学生表达能力是要差一些。

ericabelly 发表于 2011-10-26 03:54

Ya, for sure ESL students do not speak English as good as native speakers. Im not saying training courses are bad.
I'm just saying this particular school policy is pretty weird.