【独立写作】芥菜粽·作业贴

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mpromanus 发表于 2013-2-5 09:15
2.4 Some jobs pay high salaries to employees but require them live far away from their family and fr ...

老师，我觉得你说的词汇很好很强大这个其实可能不妥当的，如果真的很好很强大，应该能很清楚表达自己的意思。我们都在乱用，这才是最头疼的地方啊。哎！原谅我又话痨了。

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mdangson 发表于 2013-2-5 21:46
老师，我觉得你说的词汇很好很强大这个其实可能不妥当的，如果真的很好很强大，应该能很清楚表达自己的意 ...

呃我觉得老师的意思应该是……反义的很好很强大吧= =……主要问题就是我已掌握的词汇不会用，但是还想去引进更新的词汇，类似于基础不扎实就想学更深的东西，这样一定会得不偿失……大概吧

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芥菜粽 发表于 2013-2-5 22:15
呃我觉得老师的意思应该是……反义的很好很强大吧= =……主要问题就是我已掌握的词汇不会用，但是还想去引 ...

被冷笑的汗嗒嗒滴。。。我知道老师看我文章什么感受了，和我自己看差不多的感觉，怪怪的。。。呵呵

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mdangson 发表于 2013-2-5 22:20
被冷笑的汗嗒嗒滴。。。我知道老师看我文章什么感受了，和我自己看差不多的感觉，怪怪的。。。呵呵

唔= =以后俺一定要先自查一遍再找老师改……

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芥菜粽 发表于 2013-2-5 22:22
唔= =以后俺一定要先自查一遍再找老师改……

555555555555555555我反正没救了啊。

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mdangson 发表于 2013-2-5 22:23
555555555555555555我反正没救了啊。

童鞋不要这样！阳~光~总~在~风~雨~后~加油啊↖(^ω^)↗！！！

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哎，自己做人太狗血了。。。哎。

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mdangson 发表于 2013-2-5 22:26
哎，自己做人太狗血了。。。哎。

= =......

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mdangson 发表于 2013-2-5 21:42
感觉就这个问题很糟糕呢。

一直想知道，是词很高级但词不达意给人感觉不好，还是词还算用得恰当但比较一般给人感觉不好呢？

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mdangson 发表于 2013-2-5 13:46
老师，我觉得你说的词汇很好很强大这个其实可能不妥当的，如果真的很好很强大，应该能很清楚表达自己的意 ...

我说的词汇特指lexeme，就是说你知道有个很牛B闪闪的词表示某个意思，很好很强大。。

经常出现的词不达意，是因为非母语的学生通常是把词按照意思插入到语法结构里面，但是不是所有的词都可以随便这样插的。。比如lz这个grieved，很明显这句话是按照I feel it('s) (necessary/hard/difficult) for me to..这个结构来的，于是说，这个括号里应该放个形容词，然后很多动词的过去式可以当形容词使（fill -> a filled bowl; close -> a closed door），于是grieve -> grieved就被当作形容词撂进去了。。但是问题是grieve是主动动词，它的对象必须是人（I am grieved. *My pen is grieved.）；而it's <Adj.> for me to..这个结构里的主语实际上是to后面的那句话，实际上等于to <do something> is <Adj.> for me, 所以像grieve这种不能说<something> is grieved的词是不能用在这个结构里的。说到底，不是所有的动词都是一样的，不是所有的名词都是一样的，不是所有的形容词都是一样的，你不能单纯根据词意和词性来凑句子 - 否则语法就完全没有存在的必要了。。

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mpromanus 发表于 2013-2-6 00:25
我说的词汇特指lexeme，就是说你知道有个很牛B闪闪的词表示某个意思，很好很强大。。

经常出现的词不达 ...

这样的话，是否吃不准的词查字典的意思，并且查它的用法，这样会稍微好点吗？怎么才能避免这种情况呢。

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mpromanus 发表于 2013-2-6 00:25
我说的词汇特指lexeme，就是说你知道有个很牛B闪闪的词表示某个意思，很好很强大。。

经常出现的词不达 ...

这段注解m一下

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mdangson 发表于 2013-2-5 16:31
这样的话，是否吃不准的词查字典的意思，并且查它的用法，这样会稍微好点吗？怎么才能避免这种情况呢。

首先字典请用英英。英中字典的话请看例句怎么用而不是纯凭中文意思去用。像‘grieve只能用来说人不能说东西’这种语用上的细微之处尤其难以在字典里解释完整。

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2.5 Do you agree or disagree with the following statement? It's important for the governments to provide money to things that are beautiful and not just for things that are practical.

As the world is developing, many people now with better financial situations are more likely to pursuit those beautiful objects ('those' is a demonstrative pronoun. Pronouns need known references, meaning you can only use 'those' if you have specified which entities 'those' are. For example, 'Those books in the library are useful'. If you just say 'Those books are useful' alone out of the blue without any context, your reader will have no idea which books are 'those' books.) than they were (Remember your overall sentence is 'people are more likely to pursuit..than..', and your main verb is 'are'. This kind of coordination errors (remember the 'than' error in your previous essay?) shows that you don't always have a clear picture of the overall sentence structure when you write your long sentences.) before. Thus, it seems reasonable and is of great importance (Right. This is a rather complicated error. The 'it' in 'it seems reasonable' is not a 'real' subject, in the sense that it doesn't refer to anything solid. It's only there because every sentence in English must have a subject, a place-filler, if you would say. But an 'it' in 'it has great importance', would be a 'real' subject, in the sense that it must refer to something (see also my first correction about pronouns) solid. So, they are different kinds of 'it's, and you can't 'and' them together while omitting the second 'it'.) for the government, whose job is to serve its people, to provide money to beautiful things as well as practical ones. Nevertheless, in my opinion, the investment proportions from the governments for the beautiful things (If you omit 'things', 'the beautiful' will more likely than not default to 'the beautiful people'.) should depend on local economic conditions. Various regions with different economic conditions have various proportions.

Obviously, in an area where its economic condition is at a low level, beautiful things don’t deserve much money. Many practical things like ordinary apartments (I'm not really sure what you mean by 'ordinary' apartments, as if there are 'extraordinary apartments'..'ordinary' is more often associated with the idea of being 'normal', 'usual', 'regular', 'conventional', rather than 'simple' or 'common' or, I don't know, 'not luxurious'? You're probably thinking along the line of 'simple, cheap, readily available housing for the common people', as contrasted to 'posh, expensive skyscrapers for business or big mansions for the rich'..but whatever it is, 'ordinary' is not likely going to be the word for it.), convenient transportations, qualified hospitals and clinics, relate to our daily lives and should be valued first by governments. If a government cannot provide enough money to the necessary ones but to invests on those impractical things (Again, I won't know which things are 'those' that you refer to here. You can do the equivalent in Chinese, as in, 那些不实际的东西 can have a generic meaning that refers to 'impractical things' in general, and doesn't have to specify which things 那些 refer to, but that doesn't happen in English.), people there will feel disappointed and angry. For example, some underdeveloped cities in my country pay too much attention to the urban appearance (Right. You were trying to translate 城市面貌 weren't you..) and overlook the ordinary citizens’ urgent needs for the necessities. There are many beautiful tall buildings in these cities while only a few of them can be afforded by most of the citizens. People in these cities often question the government’s responsibility and its work, which results in a bad relationship between the governments and citizens become bad (1. 'result in' + noun phrase. A sentence/clause won't do. Do not assume everything must be a sentence/clause because a lot of verbal phrases take only phrases, not sentences; 2. be consistent with the singular/plural number – were you talking about one single local government, or a few governments of different cities collectively? Choose one approach and stay with it.).

In a region where the economic condition is good, I consider it important for the government to provide money to the beautiful things. Most of the residents in the developed areas have a better financial situation and don’t need to worry about their basic living needs. They think it's (In colloquial and fast speech this 's is often omitted, but in proper grammar you can't.) important that the region they live in has a better landscape and living environments. So demands of the people promote the governments’ attention on these aspects. For example, the city I live in has a good economic situation. Several years ago, it was planning to build a ring road. If the government chose to establish practical apartments or facilities along it, the government would not make too much money because there were few people needing them. On the contrary, in order to satisfy citizens’ hope of a better environment with a more natural scenery, the government decided to design the road mostly based on whether it could bring natural beauty to its (You've forgotten your 'it' refers to the road, not the city.) citizens. After it was set up (You don't 'set up' a road but 'build' one. Like you say 建设一条路 but not 建立一条路(unless the 路 is not a real road but a figurative one) in Chinese..) completely, people in my city considered it one of the best places and many liked to spend their casual time to hang out on ('hang' doesn't mean the same thing as 'hang on', which in turn doesn't mean the same thing as 'hang out on'..) the sidewalk, which also encouraged the relative facilities (If you use 'the', you must specify what these 'relative facilities' are. That's why 'the' is called the 定冠词 definite article. In fact I'd suggest you to just take out this entire 'which' bit. It's an extra point that didn't get properly described, and doesn't really help support your argument.) to develop.

In conclusion, I think whether the government should invest on those beautiful things should be determined by the economic condition of the region. I don’t think the practical things are not beautiful. The things which are proper for the certain situations are all beautiful. (This is not addressed in the body of your essay. A conclusion should rephrase and restate the major points you have presented, not open up new points.)

总结：

请。注意。冠词。冠词相对于中文来说是英语里看起来最简单其实最难学的语法点，几乎没有之一。。论述挺不错的，不过语用和比较高阶的语法点还是偶尔会有点问题就是了。。

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grace黄 发表于 2013-2-5 23:05
一直想知道，是词很高级但词不达意给人感觉不好，还是词还算用得恰当但比较一般给人感觉不好呢？

适当的用词就不是一般词了啊。当然要用恰当啦。