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[优秀习作] issue25 complex VS easy (大家来拍,自己感觉不错,呵呵) [复制链接]

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好像是写得多了点,但是写得少了说不清楚啊,各位体谅忍耐一下看吧

Anyone can make things bigger and more complex. What requires real effort and courage is to move in the opposite direction-in other words, to make things as simple as possible.【25】

任何人都可以把事情简单复杂化,但是需要真正努力和勇气的恰恰相反,也就是说应该把事情变得尽可能的简单。

This is a  paradoxical word. When looking around you will  easily find humans are trying to make this word complex. Modern technologies, new machines are changing at the speed  faster than any time before; knowledge of diverse disciplines are amplifying in a explosive way that nobody can really catch up with it as to know all even in one specific field.   What humans also seek for is the simplicity. To be Smaller and Simpler has become the new trend , so that one could get rid of a lot of trivia and enjoy the convenient life.  Admittedly, to make things bigger and more complex is easier, if you call things of a mess  complexity. Otherwise, I contend that both making things complex and simple demands real effort and courage.


First of all, before any further discussion, I want to clarify 'complex' and 'simple'. Here is an example. When a basketball star is asked "How could you play so well?". Probably he will say "It is simple. I just follow my hunch."  But  if he was asked when he was a beginner ,it would be a totally different answer . He might think it is hard to play so well that one day he could become a famous star.  In this case,  'simple' and 'complex' are the evaluation of subjective feelings. After hard training ,the player finally obtain a professional skill ,while  playing basketball doesn't change at all no matter how the player think of it.  So, this is what I call  subjective standard. No doubt, to achieve this ‘simple’ from ‘complex’  require a desire to explore the very thing not to mention hard working. Except the case above , actually, things could be described as complex and simple according to their own attribute, that is objective nature, which will go on being elucidated below.

On one hand, the pursuit of complexity cannot moves forward without spirits such as bravery, diligence, and creative mind.  The real world is often not so simple as it first appears. How simple something is , in fact, depends to a considerable degree on how deep you dig into it and how far you are from the core. If you only fix your eyes on the surface, things may take on the simple look. It is easy and energy-saving to stay at the superficial, while it is a energy-consuming work to explore into the deep layer where the reality seems not very friendly , so to speak, it is perplexing.  For instance, the computer at your service can implement any of your commands by your simply clicking on the mouse or pressing some keys on the keyboard. The whole process of data may last only for seconds or even shorter. Simple it may seem at the first glance, only experts on computers could explain exactly how could this realizes. It takes them hard work and open-mind to compile codes ,to think up ways in order to link the actions with the codes, and then order the computer to decode to finish the whole process.  Therefore, only with effort and creative mind that one can look deeper and figure out the pith.

On the other hand, there does exit a tendency of simplicity. However, same with 'complexity' , they never emerge until one looks for it with endeavor and courage, along with open mind. Even the most complicated thing could turn on a easy look , which exactly are some of the scientists seeking for to facilitate human living conditions. For instance, if one want to know the weather condition of tomorrow , he or she can just get the information on TV, newspaper, or on the web. It becomes accessible in such a easy way that shouldn't we remember the contribution of those meteorologists. Moreover, earthquakes and hurricanes can also be predicted to some extent so that some actions can be taken to save lives and economic loss. However, it may be hard to think the persistent work behind the apparent simplicity. Data of decades must be accumulated and processed, needless to say the invention of the methods to forecast the weather and natural disasters, which is likely the fruit of the effort through several generations.

To conclude, the definition of 'complex' and 'simple' could be different. If it refers to one's subjective feelings  , to achieve 'simple' asks one to work hard from the starting 'complex'.  When  related to objective definition, the course stepping out from the easy surface till reaching the intricate essence is in fact a course of recognizing and exploring things; to make things easier from complex is how we try to abstract things so that it could be conveniently at our service. In sum, without exerting out one's talent and energy, to make things easy or to complicate them will never be realized.
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Re: issue25 complex VS easy (大家来拍,自己感觉不错,呵呵)

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[B]好像是写得多了点,但是写得少了说不清楚啊,各位体谅忍耐一下看吧
This is a paradoxical word. When looking around you will easily find humans are trying to make this word(world?) complex. Modern technologies, new machines are changing at the(a) speed faster than any time before(感觉说technology&machines change 不是太好); knowledge of diverse disciplines are amplifying(knowledge amplify?) in a explosive way that nobody can really catch up with it as to know all even in one(one 觉得有点别扭,没把握,但觉得不如用像a single 之类的好) specific field. What humans also seek for is the simplicity. To be Smaller and Simpler has become the new trend , so that one could get rid of a lot of trivia and enjoy the convenient life. Admittedly, to make things bigger and more complex is easier, if you call things of a mess complexity. Otherwise, I contend that both making things complex and simple demands real effort and courage.(感觉第一段有点散啊,句子和用词倒是很华丽,羡慕ing~)

First of all, before any further discussion,(是不是有点重复啊) I want to clarify 'complex' and 'simple'. Here is an example. When a basketball star is asked "How could you play so well?". Probably he will say "It is simple. I just follow my hunch." But if he was asked when he was a beginner ,it would be a totally different answer . He might think it is hard to play so well that one day he could become a famous star. In this case, 'simple' and 'complex' are the evaluation of subjective feelings. After hard training ,the player finally obtain a professional skill ,while playing basketball doesn't change at all no matter how the player think of it. So(口语化,Thus), this is what I call subjective standard. No doubt, to achieve this ‘simple’ from ‘complex’ require a desire to explore the very thing not to mention hard working. Except the case above , actually, things could be described as complex and simple according to their own attribute, that is objective nature, which will go on being elucidated below.
这一段感觉不是太切题


On one hand, the pursuit of complexity cannot moves forward without spirits such as bravery, diligence, and creative mind. The real world is often not so simple as it first appears. How simple something is , in fact, depends to a considerable degree on how deep you dig into it and how far you are from the core. If you only fix your eyes on the surface, things may take on the simple look. It is easy and energy-saving to stay at the superficial, while it is a energy-consuming work to explore into the deep layer where the reality seems not very friendly , so to speak, it is perplexing. For instance, the computer at your service can implement any of your commands by your simply clicking on the mouse or pressing some keys on the keyboard. The whole process of data may last only for seconds or even shorter. Simple it may seem at the first glance, only experts on computers could explain exactly how could this realizes. It takes them hard work and open-mind to compile codes ,to think up ways in order to link the actions with the codes, and then order the computer to decode to finish the whole process. Therefore, only with effort and creative mind that one can look deeper and figure out the pith.

On the other hand, there does exit a tendency of simplicity. However, same with 'complexity' , they never emerge until one looks for it with endeavor and courage, along with open mind. Even the most complicated thing could turn on a easy look , which exactly are some of the scientists seeking for to facilitate human living conditions. For instance, if one want to know the weather condition of tomorrow , he or she can just get the information on TV, newspaper, or on the web. It becomes accessible in such a easy way that shouldn't we remember the contribution of those meteorologists. Moreover, earthquakes and hurricanes can also be predicted to some extent so that some actions can be taken to save lives and economic loss. However, it may be hard to think the persistent work behind the apparent simplicity. Data of decades must be accumulated and processed, needless to say the invention of the methods to forecast the weather and natural disasters, which is likely the fruit of the effort through several generations.

To conclude, the definition of 'complex' and 'simple' could be different. If it refers to one's subjective feelings , to achieve 'simple' asks one to work hard from the starting 'complex'. When related to objective definition, the course stepping out from the easy surface till reaching the intricate essence is in fact a course of recognizing and exploring things; to make things easier from complex is how we try to abstract things so that it could be conveniently at our service. In sum, without exerting out one's talent and energy, to make things easy or to complicate them will never be realized.

  
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我觉得这里simplisity 与complexity的辩证理解应该是事物表现的两个辩证特征,人们的努力使得事物原理一方面趋于复杂,另一方面又是其最终简单化,觉得这里说到complex和simple的subjective的问题是不是有点远啊,颇有点会者不难,难者不会的意思。。。
看你后两段应该是写二者的辩证阿,与第一段联系不大,而且开头也没有照应subjective的问题。。。
语言还是不错的说。。。

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Thax myth&limbo

1 开头的那个例子可能有点种属关系,我会改的
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我觉得这里simplisity 与complexity的辩证理解应该是事物表现的两个辩证特征,人们的努力使得事物原理一方面趋于复杂,另一方面又是其最终简单化


同意,我也是这个思路。

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觉得这里说到complex和simple的subjective的问题是不是有点远啊,颇有点会者不难,难者不会的意思


我就是这个意思。我在essay里面认为关于难易的理解可以分为主客观两种情况。
主观的难易其实跟人们掌握情况有关,不会的时候可能认为难,会了会认为简单。这是普遍存在的现象。
但是我主要讨论了客观存在的难易的转变,这是客观存在的,也不会以人们的主观感受为转移。
分为主客观主要是为了全面和准确,我觉得一点也不远。

谢谢myth&limbo的建议,我会再认真考虑改正的。

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up.
大家接着拍,多谢了,我要改完了拿去给一个美国大学教授让他帮我看看,水平太低会让人笑话。

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