ISSUE28 紧遵paisley指示，努力给人改作文中

maniacUID：155886

ISSUE 28
Students should memorize facts only after they have studied the ideas, trends, and concepts that help explain those facts. Students who have learned only facts have learned very little.

I agree with the speaker in so far as students who have learned only facts have learned very little. However, can we human beings give every fact a reasonable explanation is still a question. As a result, requiring students memorize facts only after they have studied the ideas, trends, and concepts that help explain those facts are also unrealistic.

To begin with, just memorize the facts that discovered by other people without thinking it by yourself or trying to understanding it is do no benefit to your study. Peoples cannot get anything useful from this kind of learning, but only exercise their memories. Consider, for example, imaging that there is a person who never have studied chemistry. We can give a periodic table of elements which is considered to be one of the most important and fundamental knowledge in chemistry, and enough time to him/her, and let him/her to recite this table as many as possible. It is highly possible that this person can memorize the name and position of most of the elements on the table, but it is just only a recitation. Without any basis knowledge about chemistry, it is impossible for anybody to understand why these elements arrange like the current order on the table. Nevertheless, if we have already studied chemistry, known the basic ingredient of each element is atom, and been familiar with the inner structure of the atom—it formed by proton and electron, we can clearly understand the regulation of the elements’ arrangement by which we can easily memorize the periodic table of elements. This story tells us studying some concepts about one fact before memorizing it is usually do well for us and can help us understand and memorize the facts.

However, it is too absolute to assert that students should memorize facts only after they have studied the ideas, trends, and concepts that help explain those facts. As we know, although we human beings have made many great and splendid achievements during our 4 million years history, there are still so many things we have not acquired or we still can not explain such as how does our brains work, what is the real appearance in deep oceans, even whether extraterrestrial intelligence exist and where are they? We can only get parts of the facts of these things but cannot acquire a completely interpretation about them which are still mysteries for human beings. Therefore, it is exactly the reason why we should study. One of the aims of education is to foster students’ the spirit of exploration and creativity. Just like what pioneers did, we now learn the facts with questions first, then study, discuss, and make conclusions, and the interpretation and explanation appear finally. For instance, without the facts that an apple falls from a tree and hit Newton who just sit under the tree, how does he found the law of universal gravitation? Therefore, it is unnecessary to emphasize that students must study concept first, learn some facts first sometimes will be a birth of a new concept.

To sum up, students usually should memorize facts after they have studied the ideas, trends, and concepts that help explain those facts in that facts that students cannot comprehend are useless information for them. At the same time, we should also pay attention on the facts we cannot understand and try our best to explain them, because those are the real driving force for social advance.

paisleyUID：64183

谢谢你的合作和热心，我现在就来改你的这篇。：）少等。

gdhdannyUID：125843

can we human beings give every fact a reasonable explanation is still a question. -> whether we can...is still a question

is do no benefit to -> is not benifcial to

Consider, for example, imaging that ??

however一段基本跑掉。看看结尾new concept will appear,跟TS有什么关系？没有新概念产生并不一定因为这没有学好啊。

另外牛顿的例子注意时态。

再接再厉。As imong once said and I paraphrase, 'keep on 掐ing, please'

maniacUID：155886

我也觉得however那段不爽，写这些这就觉得不对劲，不过先硬着头皮写完，准备再改

gdhdannyUID：125843

however的作用在于阐明即便没有学习深层次的东西，同样不会learned very little。

只要证明出这一点就够了，没必要再说上即使学得不深入，也会有新东西出现。这就有点远了。

paisleyUID：64183

写的不错啊！感觉你是很会说理的那种人，呵呵。语言也不错，开头尤其好。不过另外还是有些小错误。As a result, requiring students memorize facts only after they have studied the ideas, trends, and concepts that help explain those facts are（这里应是is，因为前面的主语是requiring....这个动作） also unrealistic.

To begin with, just memorize（应是memorizing，动名词做主语） the facts that discovered by other people without thinking it by yourself（最好不要用you啊I的，不太正式，这里可以用oneself） or trying to understanding it is do no benefit to your（同上，可用one's） study.

给你补充几个论点使你的文章看起来更有说服力：
1。fact往往很难像我们期望的那样公正，不偏不倚。一个知识分子或官员对文革的记忆，与一个农民对文革的记忆是不同的，所以由他们述说的fact也不同，但是你很难说哪个才是真正的事实。所以在掌握某些“事实”之前，ideas, trends, and concepts that help explain those facts这些绝对是有必要学习的。
2。有些在当代人，或者“外人”看来难以理解的事实，或难以记住的事实，在加上ideas, trends, and concepts that help explain those facts后就容易理解了。比如美国六七十年代的青年人——垮掉的一代（the beat generation），他们吸毒、群交、颓废，如果不知道那是在美国陷入越战遭到越来越多国内反对的时候，那是在资本主义繁荣发达而人的灵魂日益枯萎的年代，那是一群年轻人以最激烈的方式对抗和控诉完美理想的破灭，我们当然是不能理解这些奇怪的行为的。

3。你可以将自然科学和社会科学分割开来。前者可能不要求那么多的ideas, trends, and concepts ，但是在社会科学这是必需的

你这篇文章，类似的和相关的文章可能有许多前人写过，或者还有范文。你可以搜索一下，对照一下这些文章。 或参照该帖：《在本版找前人作文的方法》http://211.151.90.54/bbs/showthr ... hlight=%CC%E2%BA%C5
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maniacUID：155886

多谢paisley的论点和鼓励，继续努力中

pringleUID：195431

1。fact往往很难像我们期望的那样公正，不偏不倚。一个知识分子或官员对文革的记忆，与一个农民对文革的记忆是不同的，所以由他们述说的fact也不同，但是你很难说哪个才是真正的事实。所以在掌握某些“事实”之前，ideas, trends, and concepts that help explain those facts这些绝对是有必要学习的。

我觉得这个不能算fact吧?

zhxoUID：175740

I agree with the speaker in so far as students who have learned only facts have learned very little. However, can we human beings give every fact a reasonable explanation is still a question. As a result, requiring students memorize facts only after they have studied the ideas, trends, and concepts that help explain those facts are also unrealistic.

To begin with, just memorize the facts that discovered by other people without thinking it by yourself or trying to understanding it is do no benefit to your study. Peoples cannot get anything useful from this kind of learning, but only exercise their memories. Consider, for example, imaging that there is a person who never have studied chemistry. We can give a periodic table of elements which is considered to be one of the most important and fundamental knowledge in chemistry, and enough time to him/her, and let him/her to recite this table as many as possible. It is highly possible that this person can memorize the name and position of most of the elements on the table, but it is just only a recitation. Without any basis knowledge about chemistry, it is impossible for anybody to understand why these elements arrange like the current order on the table. Nevertheless, if we have already studied chemistry, known the basic ingredient of each element is atom, and been familiar with the inner structure of the atom—it formed by proton and electron, we can clearly understand the regulation of the elements’ arrangement by which we can easily memorize the periodic table of elements. This story tells us studying some concepts about one fact before memorizing it is usually do well for us and can help us understand and memorize the facts.

However, it is too absolute to assert that students should memorize facts only after they have studied the ideas, trends, and concepts that help explain those facts. As we know, although we human beings have made many great and splendid achievements during our 4 million years history, there are still so many things we have not acquired or we still can not explain such as how does our brains work, what is the real appearance in deep oceans, even whether extraterrestrial intelligence exist and where are they? We can only get parts of the facts of these things but cannot acquire a completely interpretation about them which are still mysteries for human beings. Therefore, it is exactly the reason why we should study. One of the aims of education is to foster students’ the spirit of exploration and creativity. Just like what pioneers did, we now learn the facts with questions first, then study, discuss, and make conclusions, and the interpretation and explanation appear finally. For instance, without the facts that an apple falls from a tree and hit Newton who just sit under the tree, how does he found the law of universal gravitation? Therefore, it is unnecessary to emphasize that students must study concept first, learn some facts first sometimes will be a birth of a new concept.

To sum up, students usually should memorize facts after they have studied the ideas, trends, and concepts that help explain those facts in that facts that students cannot comprehend are useless information for them. At the same time, we should also pay attention on the facts we cannot understand and try our best to explain them, because those are the real driving force for social advance.
写的不会

不应该用we说
例子也不好