14年秋季提纲互改小组 issue 6/14/96/116 same national curriculum before college

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6) A nation should require all of its students to study the same national curriculum until they enter college.
Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the recommendation and explain your reasoning for the position you take. In developing and supporting your position, describe specific circumstances in which adopting the recommendation would or would not be advantageous and explain how these examples shape your position.

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提纲：
TS：
I agree that this recommendation would be beneficial for students in some remote rural areas owing to that stardard education will provide they more rational and fully courses. Yet students living in developed areas would find the requirement unnecessary because they have the abundant education resource to choose the best courses. Moreover, students of great talent may not benefit from the recommendation in that they should choose the curriculum based on their gifts.
1、The students in remote areas will benefit from the same national curriculum. 统一的课程会弥补不同地区教育水平不一样的情况，国家会给落后地区提供更加全面，系统的课程。比如中国国内一些经济水平比较落后的地区高考采用全国大纲卷，统一的教学课本。
2、However，for the students in developed region, the recommendation is not dffective.发达地区的学生可以很轻易获得更优质的教育资源，统一课程不能很好满足他们的需求
3、Furthermore, the gifted students prefer to choose their interested courses.具有天赋的学生应该接受专业的教育，比如艺术学院，体育学院。而且这些学生要在某些方面达到一定成就必须从小接受系统专业的教育。

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ikow 发表于 2014-11-17 00:17
提纲：
TS：
I agree that this recommendation would be beneficial for students in some remote rur ...

6) A nation should require all of its students to study the same national curriculum until they enter college.
Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the recommendation and explain your reasoning for the position you take. In developing and supporting your position, describe specific circumstances in which adopting the recommendation would or would not be advantageous and explain how these examples shape your position.


提纲：
TS：
I agree that this recommendation would be beneficial for students in some remote rural areas owing to that stardard education will provide they more rational and fully courses. Yet students living in developed areas would find the requirement unnecessary because they have the abundant education resource to choose the best courses. Moreover, students of great talent may not benefit from the recommendation in that they should choose the curriculum based on their gifts.

owing to that 表达有问题
rational and fully courses 表达有问题
为什么same national curriculum对欠发达地区的教育有利  


1、The students in remote areas will benefit from the same national curriculum. 统一的课程会弥补不同地区教育水平不一样的情况，国家会给落后地区提供更加全面，系统的课程。比如中国国内一些经济水平比较落后的地区高考采用全国大纲卷，统一的教学课本。

为什么same national curriculum对欠发达地区的教育有利
这个问题 你没有讲清楚
这里的关键是通过这种政策 欠发达地区的教师、学生可以利用和借鉴其他地区已经开发好的教学资源
  


2、However，for the students in developed region, the recommendation is not dffective.发达地区的学生可以很轻易获得更优质的教育资源，统一课程不能很好满足他们的需求

汉语展开或许要更详细一些
这个点挺好



3、Furthermore, the gifted students prefer to choose their interested courses.具有天赋的学生应该接受专业的教育，比如艺术学院，体育学院。而且这些学生要在某些方面达到一定成就必须从小接受系统专业的教育。


interested courses表达有问题
或许应该说 courses that can fully utilize their potential and talents

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6) A nation should require all of its students to study the same national curriculum until they enter college.
Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the recommendation and explain your reasoning for the position you take. In developing and supporting your position, describe specific circumstances in which adopting the recommendation would or would not be advantageous and explain how these examples shape your position.

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aiyin 发表于 2014-11-21 23:22
6) A nation should require all of its students to study the same national curriculum until they ente ...

提纲就不用附件了吧
Issue(6) A nation should require all of its students to study the same national curriculum until they enter college.
Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the recommendation and explain your reasoning for the position you take. In developing and supporting your position, describe specific circumstances in which adopting the recommendation would or would not be advantageous and explain how these examples shape your position.

According to the recommendation, all of the students in the nation should be required to study the same national curriculum until they enter college. For some basic disciplines, a united national curriculum system provided by national educational institution could ensure the students acquire necessary knowledge and skill. In the meantime, the standardized curriculum will bring an equal education for all students. On the other hand, consider the property diversity between different schools in the nation, schools could be empowered to formulate some curriculum based on its own plan.


你这个观点的后面部分（on the other hand以后）和题目的意思是相矛盾的
题目里the same national curriculum就是说的所有学生修相同课程 因此不存在所谓的一部分课程相同 一部分不同的情况  


To begin with, a united national curriculum will ensure that all the students to study some basic disciplines and acquire necessary knowledge and skill. Some courses, like mathematic, native language, basic physics, must be learned by all the students in the nation.因为这些学科是他们今后在这个社会安身立命的保障。national educational institution可以综合全国的力量，制定出合理的，完善的教学方案，地方或者学校不一定有这个财力。

这个分论点挺好
例子也不错




In the meantime, a standardized curriculum system keeps the education equal to every student in the nation. 每个学生都学一样教材，保障了一些落后地区的学生获得教育的权利。如果全国课程不统一，有可能出现这样的情况：某些学校为了节省开支，不去开设一些需要比较贵的器材的体育课；或者一些学校为了追求基础学科分数，删除了一写艺术类的课程。Moreover, pursuing the standards of a national curriculum could enable the government and educational institution measure the performance of a school or a student. 如果通过测试发现，有的地区教学水平落后，那么国家可以增加投入，来保障那个地区学生受到良好教育的权利。总之，这个recommendation是有利于保障教育公平的。

这个也不错


On the other hand, the national curriculum should not be rigid, schools could be empowered to formulate some curriculum based on its own plan. 每个学校可以根据自己的办学性质来指定一些额外的课程。比如，一个教会学校可以来安排一些宗教课程，或者一个技术学校可以增加一些实习课程。如果在所有课程上都全国统一，especially for those large countries, 会影响学校的办学效果和学生的发展，最终对国家不利。

这个分论点要调整 确保不和national curriculum这个概念冲突
你可以说在这个curriculum的基础上 学校和老师可以根据学生的情况来增加一些课程外的学习活动和课外活动 来培养学生的兴趣 包括可以让有能力的同学学AP课程

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tesolchina 发表于 2014-11-22 17:29
提纲就不用附件了吧
Issue(6) A nation should require all of its students to study the same nationa ...

1.提纲就不用附件了吧
A：看错了你的提醒，还以为全部都要用附件。但是，我后来又用google尝试搜了一下我的提纲的第一句，发现还真能搜到这个帖子。因为我准备时间有限，可能考试时碰到写过的题目就真的默写了，我不知道E-rater的搜索引擎与google有多少相似之处，但是也是个潜在的风险。不知道老师怎么考虑这个问题？
2.你可以说在这个curriculum的基础上 学校和老师可以根据学生的情况来增加一些课程外的学习活动和课外活动 来培养学生的兴趣 包括可以让有能力的同学学AP课程
A:这个确实是我想表达的意思，但没有表达清楚

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aiyin 发表于 2014-11-22 20:01
1.提纲就不用附件了吧
A：看错了你的提醒，还以为全部都要用附件。但是，我后来又用google尝试搜了一下我 ...

就这个问题我写信给ETS询问了一下，他们没有正面回应，我刚才又追加了一封邮件。
我不觉得写提纲需要用附件

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提纲：
TS:National curriculum consists of numerous specific courses, including math, English and science. Overall, through the national curriculum is to ensure their students learn the basic knowledge in science and math. However, to some extent, the same national curriculum may not adapt to foreigners whose culture is distinctively different from this country. Besides this situation, it needs to be considered the level of students, because the national requirement lasts college.
1.First of all, the national curriculum will be beneficial for students to learn the basic knowledge. 比如，英国的国家课程的数学和科学，对于儿童形成基本的科学观和思维能力就很有必要。
2.However, It is disadvantageous to some foreign students to adapt.比如，像中国的孩子因为父母的工作调动，移居到美国，那么往往很难适应美国的国家课程，尤其是涉及有关文化的课程时，会产生文化冲突。
3.In addition, the time regulated until college is inadequate.对于有些中学就进入了技术学校学习的学生，要求学生学习国家课程到大学的要去，不利于其专业的发展，因为在技术学校可能实践的要求更多，而一味地学习国家课程，不利于其个性的发展。
In conclusion, the purpose, which believes all students learning the national curriculum, is understandable. On the other hand, concerning some special situations, the requirements are untenable.
老师，我这是没有看前面您对其他同学的点评就直接写了的，请您指正，谢谢！

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tesolchina 发表于 2014-11-22 21:05
就这个问题我写信给ETS询问了一下，他们没有正面回应，我刚才又追加了一封邮件。
我不觉得写提纲需要用附 ...

老師, 我也寫了, 請評評

A nation should require all of its students to study the same national curriculum until they enter college.
Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the recommendation and explain your reasoning for the position you take. In developing and supporting your position, describe specific circumstances in which adopting the recommendation would or would not be advantageous and explain how these examples shape your position.

TS
It is no doubt that some of the countries- such as France and Germany – train their students by means of different curriculums that are made by the regional or local schools or teachers. The outcome and the consequence of this type of education also benefit both the students and the educators. However, the above approach would not work well in the context of Hong Kong. Thus, I totally agree with the speaker’s argument that a same national curriculum should be used to educate all of its students before those students entering college in Hong Kong. I explain my reasoning from three different levels: the students’ level, the teachers’ level and the justice level.

Ts1
Studying a same national curriculum effectively facilitates students to share the information about how to achieve a better academic performance. After all, 學習在香港的最終目標是追求分數。 學生們一起學習的成果比個人自習的成果來得更好。 每一個學生都是生活在有限的時間, 他們是沒有可能把所有相關學科知識的書本都看完。 另一方面, 若果每一個學生都是修讀同一課程, 學生之間便可以沒有隔膜地分享學習心得。For example, 分工合作遠比一個人的努力來得更有效, 學生們可以分工地搜尋市面上和課程相關的資料。在這一情況之下, 學生很快便可以了解到什麼資訊是有用提升他們學科的表現。

Ts2
Furthermore, using a same nation curriculum to educate students refines teachers and teaching quality. 無可否認, 在香港, 教學的質素和經驗是緊拘的。換句話說, 資歷較深的老師的教學質素比資歷較淺的老師來得更好。當教育局推行統一的課程, 資歷較深的老師便可以和新老師分享教授心德。這一套系統不但提升了新老師的教學質素, 而且確保了每一個老師都獲得相當高的教學能力。

Ts3
Last but not the least, the introduction of a same nation curriculum is a best way to promote the value of justice. 在香港, 學生學習公平的意義是透過參與公開考試。當每一個學生都是修讀同一套課程, 這代表著每一個學生将會被一套相同的準則去測試。教授局举行公開試的時候, 評分基準都是公開透明的。這樣可以確保學生拿取的分數是取決於他們對學科的認識而不是其他因素。在這情況之下, 教育局直接到教導了學生公平的重要性。

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skywongchiu 发表于 2014-11-27 19:31
老師, 我也寫了, 請評評

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