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发表于 2004-4-17 23:50:13 |显示全部楼层

我把坛子里的一些176的摘在这里哦

176."The function of science is to reassure; the purpose of art is to

upset. Therein lies the value of each."
科学的作用是消除人们的疑虑;艺术的作用是使人们心烦意乱。这样两这才有价

值。(我自己翻译的,不一定准确。不过upset我实在想不出有什么褒义或者中

性的意思)你同意这句话吗?至少我不同意。
1.科学不能打消人们的疑虑,事实上,往往是科学的发现、发展使人们多了疑虑

。比如核技术的使用,使人们担心会不会泄露危及生命;生化武器的出现,使人

们收到信件或者不名白色粉末都会担心等等;克隆技术的发展,虽然可能解决医

学上的一些问题,但是却给人类文明道德伦理带来疑虑。科学的发现、发展多是

新的东西,而新的东西都是人们过去不知道,现在不熟悉,未来不确定的东西,

这样的话,科学并不能消除疑虑。
2.art虽然有一些前卫、让大多数人不明白的形式,但并不因此而使人心烦意乱

。事实上,谁听着自己喜欢的音乐、看着墙上的优美风景的照片会心烦呢?首先

人们可以选择自己喜欢的艺术形式;其次艺术的目的也是为了给人们的生活增添

情趣,这也是为什么它有各种丰富的形式供人们选择、欣赏、参与。



A. The final objective of science, in my view, is to discover truths about our world, our universe, and ourselves. Sometimes these discoveries serve to reassure, other times they serve to upset. On the one hand, many scientific discoveries serve to reassure. For example, many would consider reassuring the various laws and principles of physics which provide unifying explanations for what we observe in the physical world. These principles provide a reassuring sense of order, even simplicity, to an otherwise mysterious and perplexing world.
B. On the other hand, many scientific discoveries have clearly "upset" conventional notions of people.
C. In many cases artists set about to reassure, not to upset.
D. However, in other cases, artists set about to upset.
科学和艺术两者都着眼于更新,科学是在前人的理论基础上不断修正,提出新的理论,而艺术是对前人的创作的基础上创新,创造出不同于前人,超越前人的思想,如“印象派”以画光线著称,在这之前,其他画派的画的背景都是无光的,可是科学确实如牛顿所说“我是站在巨人的肩膀上”,不能在推翻一个理论体系后,马上建立,必须逐步修正



我的提纲,供参考,感觉我的论点比较好举例子。
15. The function of science is to reassure( to restore to confidence); the purpose of arts is to upset(to trouble mentally or emotionally). Therein lies the value of each. 【176】
科学的作用是解惑;艺术的目的是创新。只有这样他们才各得其所。
--,
1,科学的确可以使人们的怀疑得到解决。
2,科学也能带来疑问和颠覆。
3,艺术的确比科学更加乐于颠覆,但是艺术的传统性也很强



No.1 issue176 科学和艺术(写得伤心,恳请排砖)
176."The function of science is to reassure; the purpose of art is to upset. Therein lies the value of each."

What are the functions and purposes of Science and Art? Are their values so distinct from each other as indicated in the title statement? According to my understanding, the function of science is not always to reassure and the purpose of art also goes far beyond upsetting.

Admittedly, science does reassure people in the sense that it aims to seek the eternal order of things, to reveal the laws of nature and hence disenchant the external world and dissipate our anxiety and doubt in face of all that seems unknowable. Human nature determines that we will feel restless when we are confronted with something mysterious and uncertain. At the primitive stage of human history, almost the whole world appeared to be unaccountable and incomprehensible to our ancestors. Without the help of science, they had no choice but to resort to superstitions and religions for relief and salvation. As time passes by, the accumulation of knowledge, experience and intelligence of numerous generations leads to the spring of science. Science assures us that there lie laws and rules beneath any seemingly inexplainable phenomenon and there exist solutions to any problem. Even if we have not found and collected all keys to the unknown parts of the world, most of us still feel confident that there will be reasonable answers to everything. In this sense, science not only endows us with the power to explore and conquest nature and the outer world but also gives us a certain spiritual power to feel reassured facing the unknown future.

However, the rapid development of science, which is desirable and beneficial to a great extent, brings out new problems and threats to human existence. Cloning technology, nuclear weapons and biochemical weapons etc. are all potential time bombs that may lead to the destruction of the whole humanity if we don't control and limit their development and application. Science, which is like a double-edged sword, fails to reassure us but to arouse our new anxiety and fear for the possible detrimental consequences of the over-development of science. We are increasingly not assured about the bright future of the mankind promised by science. Maybe there truly exist rational solutions to every problem, while human beings have a long way to go before we reach those solutions by virtue of science or some other means.

As for the sister of science---art, one of its purposes is actually to upset. Art also tends to find the eternal order of things; but art more focuses on the inner world to explore and re-examine human nature. The introspection of our minds and souls usually accompanies pessimism, disappointment and affliction. We cannot escape the meditation on permanent queries such as where the meaning of life lies and why the world is full of misfortune, distress and desire. It is not difficult to understand why the most powerful and infectious artworks are generally centered on tragic themes or depict the struggle of men or women against nature, society or their destiny. Art highlights the tragedy of human beings and upsets the brilliant outlook and optimistic future promised by science. Science cannot resolve boundless questions concerning existence itself. Art addresses these questions and usually make us upset and unassured about everything.

On the other hand, art also conveys pleasure, beauty, virtue and truth to its audience. In the process of appreciating the painting of Virgin Mary by Da Vinci, we can relish the peaceful state of mind and forget all the worldly trivia and troublesome business. Who will still be haunted by uncertainty of life when he or she hears the heavenly melodies of Mozart? In this world where nobody can escape the final destination ---death, and nobody can be really freed from any physical or spiritual suffering or affliction, art is an infinite source of peacefulness and happiness for us. Even if the relief only lasts a short moment, we should deeply owe the precious moment to those great artists.

In conclusion, science and art both aim to find the eternal and universal order of things, explore the internal and external world and find out the ultimate truth. The process of pursuing truth, eternity and universality inevitably involves interlaced and endless anxiety and reassurance. In this process lie the values of science and art, that is, to illuminate the darkness of unknown, reveal the meaning of life, and lead the mankind into the realm of beauty, truth and virtue.

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发表于 2004-4-17 23:51:30 |显示全部楼层
提出一个新问题,就是function和purpose的区别……希望大家讨论

这两个词很多人理解这道题的时候理解为同义,不过我觉得至少从字面上是不相同的意思。

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发表于 2004-4-17 23:52:23 |显示全部楼层

Re: 一个问题的两面

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[B]如果一定要给reassure与upset明确解释:reassure就是肯定人类自身,upset反省人类自身,包括对科学本身的反省。
[/B]

我觉得这种解释不错,但是前面dashuiniu的提纲,我认为不太好写。
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发表于 2004-4-17 23:55:35 |显示全部楼层
function 和 purpose 再分开讨论就有点钻牛角尖了 个人看法 其实 可以自己先定义(解释)的 然后再讨论 差不离就可以 自圆其说就好

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发表于 2004-4-17 23:55:43 |显示全部楼层

Re: 我把坛子里的一些176的摘在这里哦

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[B]科学的作用是消除人们的疑虑;艺术的作用是使人们心烦意乱。这样两这才有价

值。(我自己翻译的,不一定准确。不过upset我实在想不出有什么褒义或者中

性的意思)你同意这句话吗?至少我不同意。[/B]


的确这样解题才能把二者联系在一起,可问题在于,后面半句……靠谱吗?简直就是不着调的话!ETS能出完全没有逻辑的话来让人选择立场吗(仅限ISSUE)?

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发表于 2004-4-17 23:56:14 |显示全部楼层
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[B]提出一个新问题,就是function和purpose的区别……希望大家讨论

这两个词很多人理解这道题的时候理解为同义,不过我觉得至少从字面上是不相同的意思。

不知道大家怎?.

以下省略...... [/B]

两者是不同的概念
function是指能怎么样
purpose是为了怎么样
不同的~~~~~~不要写错了 ;)
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发表于 2004-4-18 00:03:47 |显示全部楼层
最初由 lovebrian 发布
[B][QUOTE]最初由 needle 发布
[B]两者是不同的概念
function是指能怎么样
purpose是为了怎么样
不同的~~~~~~不要写错了[/B]



我跟你的理解一样……但是这两个概念再分开的话,而且upset又和reassure不能准确的解释以建立联系,这道题目的下场就只能像我写的那篇一样……完全没有关系的两个Body,分别论述对科学的功能、价值的观点和对艺术的目的、价值的观点……

而文章的下场也只有一个……低分……郁闷

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按照狒狒对function和purpose的解释
我的立场:1。科学不仅能使人消除疑虑,表现在新技术解决某些问题,更能使人增加困惑,因为新滴发现往往带来更多滴未知,如火星探测。
          2。艺术滴目的绝不是upset,首先,一些恬静优美滴音乐和paintings使人放松安心,其次,即便是一些当时给人巨大冲击和狂躁不安滴艺术,也是为了释放后滴平静,没有为了让人永远upset的艺术!
          讨论!:p
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发表于 2004-4-18 00:07:04 |显示全部楼层
在这里,function和purpose的区别好像不大,没有必要在仔细区分了吧?
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发表于 2004-4-18 00:07:56 |显示全部楼层
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[B]按照狒狒对function和purpose的解释
我的立场:1。科学不仅能使人消除疑虑,表现在新技术解决某些问题,更能使人增加困惑,因为新滴发现往往带来更多滴未知,如火星探测。..

以下省略...... [/B]


下场和我写的那篇一样一样的……二者之间完全没有联系啊!

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发表于 2004-4-18 00:14:52 |显示全部楼层
reassure: to make someone feel less worried about something
upset: to make someone feel sad, worried, or angry
这是macmillan词典的解释
这样很清楚了吧
不要想得太离题了

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最初由 needle 发布
[B][QUOTE]
下场和我写的那篇一样一样的……二者之间完全没有联系啊!

以下省略...... [/B]


有道理哦 :rolleyes:
那怎样写才有联系嘞
可不可以写无论当时感受如何,最终目标都是为乐人类进步啊?巨俗无比哈! :D
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发表于 2004-4-18 00:19:50 |显示全部楼层
呵呵,看一下我的:
1。科学可以不断探索人类未知的世界——使人们对自身和世界的认识更加清晰和完整,所以能够reassure。但是在解决遗留问题的同时产生新的疑问。
2。艺术通过使人对自身和世界的一些本原进行思考,促使人们自省,在感到痛苦与不安的同时,认识了自己和世界。
3。所以,科学和艺术的根本作用都是让人不断探索和更新对世界的认识,而不是题目所说,两种对立的作用。
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发表于 2004-4-18 00:24:58 |显示全部楼层
我觉得很好了

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发表于 2004-4-18 00:28:45 |显示全部楼层
最初由 sabu 发布
[B]reassure: to make someone feel less worried about something
upset: to make someone feel sad, worried, or angry
这是macmillan词典的解释
这样很清楚了吧
不要想..

以下省略...... [/B]


以下释义来自韦氏,中文翻译是我翻的。

Main Entry:upset

transitive senses  [及物动词]
1 : to thicken and shorten (as a heated bar of iron) by hammering on the end : SWAGE[型锻]
2 : to force out of the usual upright, level, or proper position : OVERTURN[颠覆,推翻]
3 a : to trouble mentally or emotionally : disturb the poise of  [使难受] b : to throw into disorder[使混乱]  c : INVALIDATE  [使无效]d : to defeat unexpectedly[出乎意料的战胜]
4 : to cause a physical disorder in[使身体(机能)混乱];  specifically   : to make somewhat ill[(特别指)使生病]
intransitive senses [不及物动词]  : to become overturned[翻倒]
synonyms see DISCOMPOSE

reassure:
1 : to assure anew [再保证]*reassured him that the work was on schedule*
2 : to restore to confidence [使放心,使有信心]*felt reassured by their earnest promise to do better*
3 : REINSURE

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