知乎上的这个论点靠谱不

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其实我想问的第一个问题就是二流的定义是什么？

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joewoo198256 发表于 2016-2-4 21:09
tipping the scale这个排名是有一个假设的，即该校所有学生都想去big law工作，当像Yale Mich Stanford这 ...

Assuming the public interest ("PI") people all meet the GPA cut-offs at biglaw, then the fact that these feeder schools (e.g., CCNP) can still manage to send 60% of the class into biglaw is even more impressive and indicative. Say 10% of the class at Columbia get PI jobs while meeting biglaw GPA cut-offs, and Columbia still manage to send 66% into biglaw, that means you only need to be in top 76% at Columbia to get into biglaw instead of top 66%.

On the other hand if the PI people do not meet the GPA cut-offs and can't snap a biglaw offer even if they want to then they are not tipping the scale at all. Those grads who are able to get federal clerkships are def in the top of the class let alone above biglaw cut-offs.

You may say the situation is different at HYS, but not everyone can get in HYS. Quite honestly if OP can get into HYS then this post is prob moot considering HYS give pretty substantial PI grant and biglaw might not be the ideal outcome should OP favor other career options. "They literally cut me a check for 11K every 6 months for loan payments."

Higher placement in big firms also shows that firms in turn are willing to hire more from these "target schools" and be more flexible in terms of GPA. School alumni relationships does matter. e.g., Kirkland hires more from Northwestern and Gibson Dunn prob hires more from NYU (location also plays a big role here). These relationships may not mean much if you are acing 1L classes but I'm pretty sure Northwestern/Cornell is gonna serve you better than Berkeley when you are in the bottom half and paying for sticker price.

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坚持啊啊啊啊啊 发表于 2016-2-3 23:59
我就一直在犹豫ED西北还是NYU，唉。

不差钱nyu, 差钱西北.

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173都有希望t3了, 为了那点钱去读个差的学校真的合算吗? 我觉得如果够钱, 或能贷到钱, 还是尽量去自己喜欢的学校吧. 100多万用来读书比用来买房合算, 何况还不够买房的=.=

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joewoo198256 发表于 2016-2-4 21:09
tipping the scale这个排名是有一个假设的，即该校所有学生都想去big law工作，当像Yale Mich Stanford这 ...

harvard的pi才是最多的吧, yale好多想academia的

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Perseus1994 发表于 2016-2-4 21:07
不靠谱，理由如下。
1.中国人只能进 big law,其他律所不给办工作签证，所以你要看的是big law rate+ feder ...

30%, 15%是成绩? 貌似也不全看成绩, 根据2L的情况来看. 当然如果成绩好到可以秒杀, 当然就无所谓了.

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falconcaptor 发表于 2016-2-6 05:51
Assuming the public interest ("PI") people all meet the GPA cut-offs at biglaw, then the fact th ...

"Northwestern/Cornell is gonna serve you better than Berkeley when you are in the bottom half and paying for sticker price." 建立在要去ny这个assumption基础上?

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Perseus1994 发表于 2016-2-8 19:47
基本看成绩，除非你爸爸是par，前国务卿之类的~

甭说进 BigLaw，进联邦政府（PI）也得靠路子。DOJ 的名额有限，还受财政预算的影响，都不知道那天才有空缺。没有内线，谁玩得起啊？

举一例：某日，一3L 同学给我们 1L 讲她是如何拿到 DOJ 里面一个移民法方面的职位。听到半截，她露了一句：我爸是 DOJ 的啥官儿。然后我就不听了。

举二例：我 Section 同学里面就有父亲是州里面的法官；2L 暑假去了某州的一个 BigLaw Office；不满意。3L 再找。最后去了NY的另一个BigLaw。

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Carpe_diem0 发表于 2016-2-6 12:02
"Northwestern/Cornell is gonna serve you better than Berkeley when you are in the bottom half and  ...

prob anywhere outside cali