[未归类] BCL真的比LLM尊贵？或者说英国学校秒杀美国？ [复制链接]

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发表于 2016-12-17 07:08:00 |显示全部楼层

根据牛津大学法律系副院长的原话
The Oxford BCL has been a pivotal feature of Oxford's law provision since the sixteenth century. This rich history has helped to maintain its status as the most highly regarded taught masters-level qualification in the common law world.
Mindy Chen-Wishart, Associate Dean for Graduate Studies (Taught Courses)
https://www.law.ox.ac.uk/admissi ... /bachelor-civil-law
针对这句话，我做了一些功课
1. https://llm-guide.com/board/uk-i ... or-oxford-bcl-92124
“the higher up you go in legal practice/academia the less the Harvard LLM is prized. This isn't a knock on Harvard or its LLM, but its reputation reflects the substance of this thread: it's what people do when they're looking for a reputational boost to get them the job their current CV can't deliver”
“the Oxford BCL is perceived as attracting the highest quality common law applicants, while the Cambridge LLM attracts the highest quality civil law candidates”
2. https://llm-guide.com/board/usa/harvard-llm-vs-oxford-bcl-110256
【这是美国人自己说的！】
I did both the Harvard LLM and the Oxford BCL. There is no comparison; the Oxford BCL is a much more demanding course. Oxford as a much larger Law Faculty than Harvard, uses the world's best philosophers for some of the courses, and has many professors who hold chairs for half the year in Oxford and the other half of the year in the US, such as Professor Jeremy Waldron of NYU. There is no one at Harvard like John Finnis, John Gardner, or Joseph Raz. Oxford is much more academic--and it is for this reason it is a very demanding course to excel in. I was top of my class in Harvard, but was out ranked by at least 12 students in the BCL. As for the fame of the three schools, Oxford and Cambridge are every bit as famous has Harvard. Oxford is more famous, thanks to its publishing, dictionaries, etc. A homeless person anywhere has heard of Oxford, including those in the remotes parts of China and Africa. Cambridge University is equally famous as Harvard; it is silly to think any employer who has heard of Harvard has not heard of Cambridge. John Harvard was a student at Cambridge University before he went to the USA to set up Harvard University. Cambridge also has an exchange program with Harvard--Harvard JD's can do the last year of their JD as an LLM at Cambridge. I have heard that the Cambridge LLM is very demanding, but is not as difficult to gain entry to as the BCL. I must also note, that many US Supreme Court judges have done the Oxford BCL, but none have done the Harvard LLM, perhaps because they usually have a US JD before doing the BCL. (Similarly, many Supreme Court judges from Canada, New Zealand and Australia (High Court) have done the BCL. We Americans also know that the Yale LLM is much more difficult to gain entry to than the Harvard LLM; that is because it is academically more demanding. It is possible to get into the Harvard LLM with relative poor grades if the candidate has a fairly good life story (or hard luck story).
但是我注意到，在本版似乎没有这样明确的结论（即牛津和剑桥是比哈佛高一个等级的法学院，牛津：哈佛类似于哈佛：宾大？
到底是大家心知肚明，觉得无需强调，还是大家并不这么认为？

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