slack off at work. I don't like HK either.
Simply tell what I know.
1. data job
As far as I know, data management work salary starts from 60k to 70k annually as a new graduate, and is very welcomed in Toronto. I am thinking about applying another master in data analytics as a part-time.
2. Housing market
Luckily, I followed my aunt's suggestion and bought a townhouse last year, and now its value raises at least by 20%, although it's not in Richmond Hill, Vaughan, Markham, Aurora, Newmarket and Oakville, whose real markets are hottest in GTA. In those area, a typical 3000sqft double garage detached house price is above 1.5M or more. For houses near top high schools, no less than 2M and most sold prices are 0.5M more than listing prices. International students can apply a mortgage with 35% downpayment.
3. Car
Car price is not high. A new camry LE loaded price could be 28000 CAD, and a new Lexus RX350 in highest configuration is 75000 CAD. Damn it, the insurance is expensive, 3000 annually at least for a new driver.
4. Whether
Winter is terrible.
5. Travel
If you like natural site, strongly recommended. You can always find a place to go in weekend.
If your GG is in finance area, he should stay in HK. If in IT, can come to Canada.
ly19880413 发表于 2017-3-14 02:04
slack off at work. I don't like HK either.
Simply tell what I know.
1. data job
Thanks so much for your advice!
He is working in IT area, as a Business Analyst(kind of like PM) . As his job is more about communication not programming, I am afraid it not easy for him.
作为一个也在美国和加拿大都生活过的人,说点我的认知:
1 美国太大,不同州氛围绝壁差太多。加州德州就差得够远了,中部、中西部、东岸、南部,又都非常不一样。加州是的确很吸引年轻人的,特别是北加。IT新贵、年轻人多,比较有朝气,气候也还可以(虽然我觉得夏天太冷了。。。)但是做IT的人太多,我觉得氛围现在越来越紧张,房价也是飞起。至少算上汇率,比大多贵。南加气候好,但是莫莫多,快变成新墨西哥了。反正LA、SD好区都很贵,工资也不高,一大堆有钱的移民,跟温哥华类似。
2 整个加拿大90%的人口集中在那几个城市,所以选择少很多。基本上就只有大温大多,勉强加上montreal吧可以选。如果你不太挑地方,至少我觉得Ottawa、Calgary、Edmonton都还过得去。楼上说的BC跟加州最接近,非常不认同。BC比加州laid back得多,工作也少得多。加拿大根本就没有跟加州接近的地方,各方面。If you like Cali, then go to Cali.不过也不用把温哥华多伦多房价妖魔化,比香港还是强多了。100万加币买厕所,只有温西豪宅是这样吧?普通人肯定还是过得下去的,就是住不上大屋而已,而且私以为条件还是比香港好多了。lz如果喜欢户外,西部BC、AB都是天堂。搬来东部之后我road trip的感受都不咋样,一个小long weekend随便去个没听过名字的provincial park都挤得不行。阿岗昆就别提了。
3 好像哔哔太多了?哈哈。说重点,美国的好处:工资高工资高工资高。当然不是所有地方都高了,大农村码农6-7万年薪的很多。但是像点样的地方(I mean 你听过名字的城市),薪水都比加拿大高得多。然后就是机会多,最新的技术还是在人家手里。比如做big data,加拿大有几个公司有big data?你做得稍微高端点,就发现美国每天出来200个match你背景的job posting,加拿大每天5个以内。总的来说美国是个大国,像中国一样,你也许不喜欢北京,但你还有上海广州哈尔滨成都可以选。你在深圳没找到合适的工作,你可以去杭州。加拿大是个小国,你就那么几个选择。我自己就很困扰,我不喜欢大多,但是除了大多真的很难跟老公两个人都找到合适的工作。美国的缺点也很明显:生活压力大,中产阶级医疗教育支出庞大。虽然加拿大中产somehow也挺惨,但是绝对没有美国中产负担重,特别是有孩子的。然后就是比较基本的一点,美国身份比加拿大身份难拿。
4 有个误区,大家总觉得加拿大福利好因为税高。Not necessary。我记得之前看过一个计算,大概年薪12w以下的群体,在加拿大交的税并不比美国高。举个简单例子,美国联邦个税起征点是两三千,加拿大是一万多。而且美国各州税收政策差好多,总的来说蓝州税收都不低,而工薪高收入的机会,基本都在蓝州(典型如NY、CA、NJ、CT、MA)。