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49) Claim: We can usually learn much more from people whose views we share than from those whose views contradict our own.
Reason: Disagreement can cause stress and inhibit learning.
Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the claim and the reason on which that claim is based.

TS:Whether the claim and the reason hold true or not depends on the specific contexts of the situation. In terms of science, disagreement among other researchers is common and also beneficial to learn more about the truth. It is also vital for politicians to talk about issues with those who holds different opinions, as this can help them learn others thoughts. However, when it comes to criticizing pop stars, since their fans always defend their idols overwhelmingly, little can be learned from disagreement.

ts1: Scientists and researchers and learn more from those who disagree with them as truth is always complicated and need to be tested by various evidence and opinions. As well all know, human was been believed to be created by God for a long time until Darwin thrown up the theory of evolution. Many scientist had fierce debates with Darwin, learned about the evidence, and finally accepted the theory. When facing opposite views, new theories can be learned by exploring the datas and studying the facts and therefore scientists can step further to the truth. Such learning opportunities are not possible if researchers only give attention to those who hold the same opinion.

ts2: In the context of politics, communicating to people with different opinions may help policy makers learn the needs from the other side, which may enable them to make better decisions.

ts3: When it comes to criticize pop stars, on the other hand, such disagreement should be avoid due to the stress it caused and few can be learned from that.
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Issue 79)

Claim: The best test of an argument is its ability to convince someone with an opposing viewpoint.
Reason: Only by being forced to defend an idea against the doubts and contrasting views of others does one really discover the value of that idea.

Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the claim and the reason on which that claim is based.


题目中有claim 和reason 所以我分别讨论了 CR的纰漏 破题点主要在C的the best 上(提出说服他人不是最好的证明自己正确的方法)和R 的only上(提出除了维护自己观点还有别的途径来发现观点价值)

TS: To assert the validity of an argument, people are apt to persuading others to accept the opinion by defending it constantly. And once others are convinced, their argument seems to be tested. Personally speaking, it is not defending an idea embodied the value of it, its own authenticity did so. However the authenticity came from relentless searching and tests but not wordy debates. I do admit that convincing someone is the test of an argument in some situation but it is not the only way to testify a truth.  

Pt1:To begin with, I have to express my agreement on the reason that in some situations, defending an idea against the doubts does realize the value of that idea.
-In a debate competition , we defend our idea in many ways in order to convince our counter part .

Pt2: However, defeating the counterpart to embody the value to our own idea is not the only way. Constant researching and relentless experiment are also ways to prove our idea.  
-Archeologists keep digging fossils to prove the relation between Homo sapiens and humans today.
-Biologists took thousands of tests to find a antibody for a certain bacteria.

Pt3: What is more, the writer seem to suggest that the convincing of an argument represent its validity which is not likely to be true. The best test for an argument is its inclusiveness and the ability to develop.
-It is hard to say who develop an engine because it start with making use of explosion. Scientists from Holland, France, German and England all made contribution to it. If everyone deny previous design instead of developing it , we can never have engine so efficient today .


Pt2: However, defeating the counterpart to embody the value into our own idea is not the only way. In some cases, contrary, it is fruitless. Like convincing a vegetarian to eat meat or telling a monk to betray his belief is not likely to succeed. People’s attitude cannot be changed by claim if there are no evidence to support the idea. Simply asserting an idea to public and defending it leads us to awkward situation. Without strong evidence, all the defending are merely repeating the same meaning but not prove it. To prove one’s idea, addition methods are needed such as constant researching and relentless experiment. Archeologists believe in evolution, to prove that idea, they never stop digging into the ground and found fossils to prove it. All the vaccine are credit to biologists and millions of times testing on the bacteria to find an antibody.




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1)____网友提纲的框架是否合理?
框架合理 提出具体情况具体分析然后给了三个方面论述science,politics,entertainment
前两段中间段是反对题目观点
第三段论述是说在娱乐圈从持异议方学不到什么 举例粉丝口水战 作为让步段也就是说同意题目观点的情况 我觉得让步段开头应该有一些特征比如“尽管如此 我也不是完全反对题目因为题目也有成立的情况balabala………” 这样不会突兀。
2)____网友提纲所用的例子是否合适?
例子都合适的 二段展开讨论的时候希望能更具体 比如政客如何从对方观点学习

3)____网友开头段语言方面有哪些问题?  
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49) Claim: We can usually learn much more from people whose views we share than from those whose views contradict our own.
Reason: Disagreement can cause stress and inhibit learning.
Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the claim and the reason on which that claim is based.

TS: Whether the claim and the reason hold true or not depends on the specific contexts of the situation.(先重申了题目并表明了立场是分情况的) In terms of science, disagreement among other researchers is common and also beneficial to learn more about the truth. (分论点science)It is also vital for politicians to talk about issues with those who holds different opinions, as this can help them learn others thoughts.(分论点politics) However, when it comes to criticizing pop stars, since their fans always defend their idols overwhelmingly, little can be learned from disagreement.(分论点entertainment)

ts1: Scientists and researchers and learn more from those who disagree with them as truth is always complicated and need to be tested by various evidence and opinions.(主题句陈述本段论点科学家对异议实验并学习point As well all know, human was been believed to be created by God for a long time until Darwin thrown up the theory of evolution. Many scientist(scientists) had fierce debates with Darwin, learned about the evidence, and finally accepted the theory. (举例证明论点科学家从达尔文进化论中实验学习informationWhen facing opposite views, new theories can be learned by exploring the datas and studying the facts and therefore scientists can step further to the truth. (科学家对异议分析实验学习进步elaborationSuch learning opportunities are not possible if researchers only give attention to those who hold the same opinion.(反向论证elaboration

ts2: In the context of politics, communicating to people with different opinions may help policy makers learn the needs from the other side, which may enable them to make better decisions.

ts3: When it comes to criticize pop stars, on the other hand, such disagreement should be avoid due to the stress it caused and few can be learned from that.

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49.Claim: We can usually learn much more from people whose views we share than from those whose view ...

(在这篇写作中,我最大的疑惑是如何处理观点和原因的分析。你的思路是可以部分同意原因而完全反对观点claim,可以这样分裂来看吗?原因是用来支撑观点地,如果观点不成立,那么是否首先分析原题中的原因;同时,原因本身是没有问题地,那在何种情况下可以支持什么样的观点。第一段学术领域,分歧好,促进学术研究;第二段,政治,分歧好,得失平衡;第三段,教学领域,分歧不好,情绪压力问题;感觉第三点是否作为结束段总结补充的一部分,而不是分论点之一,实际上只是在讨论原因本身,并不回应题目的观点中learn from others。 不知道你怎么看?)
ts1:In the academical area ( in the academic area),not to mention the findings today got through so much debates (the findings with so much debates),some widespread findings might even be totally upended in the long history of researches.Indeed,the academical views need to be questioned and experimented again and again,the purpose of most researchers is to find the truth,so the contradictory debates is inevitable and valuable.

ts2:In the political area,conflicts and stress is commonplace desert for the politists.They use the agreements and disagreements to serve for their own benefits,there’s no so-called true or false,debates are inevitable.Sharing the views would not bring benefits but for most of time,leads to danger.In this extent,political area are used to the contradictory views,and only by questioning and critical thinking could balance the loss and profits. 

ts3:When it comes to the education,I should admit that the disagreement can cause bad emotions like stress,and sometions (sometimes) inhibit students’ ability to learning,especially to the child who are diffident and shy.In order to help students learn better,teachers should balance the extent of disagreement of students’ errors.In deed,you need to point it out,but not to express fiercely contradictions.For example,try to agree the relatively right part,and let them understand.

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Claim: We can usually learn much more from people whose views we share than from those whose views contradict our own.
Reason: Disagreement can cause stress and inhibit learning.

Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the claim and the reason on which that claim is based.

It is believed that we would learn much more from people who share the similar views with us rather than those who do not because disagreement could cause stress and inhibit learning. I do not fully agree with this point of view and think we actually learn more from those whose views are contradictory to us and inspire us to think out of box.

My first-hand experience in master programme study proves that different understanding embedded within different educational systems enhanced learning though there are conflict and stress. When talking motivation to learn in a course with foreign peers, they insisted that motivations come from internal interest rather than external encouragement from peers and teachers. I admitted it but emphasis the role of teachers in primary stage of learning is crucially important and motivation to learn can be created by the teachers’ efforts. However the foreign peers argued with me that motivation only happens when the person himself has the consciousness and actions to learn rather than any support from outside. We argued from our own experience and it is little stressful in class for a long debate. However it becomes one of my most impressive learning experience leading myself to think over the different education systems from sociology perspective. It couldn’t happen if all the classmates having the similar opinions and couldn’t use a more macro-perspective to look at the differences and triggers curiosity to exploring from a contradictory angle.

It is not just my own experience in learning that shows the disagreement virtually makes learning happen. The technology start-ups always identify opportunities through this sort of contradictories and get advanced. When Ellen Mask was convinced it had been never possible to use batteries in an economical way to charge electrical cars, he didn’t stop there but tried to rethink how to restructure the batteries. If people are holding the same opinions, they could not either find a creative way or discover the common rules behind the complexities. The contradictories in a sense is the embodiment of mature products and improvement of learning. If we can not dare to be different in opinions, the creations would not happen and learning would be stuck or backward unfortunately.

However disagreement does become the barriers of learning and cause pressures when the debate usually happens to the authority and the grassroots or the both parties at junior level. Specifically to say, it would be a great frustration for the citizens at disadvantage position to defend against the authority who have been positioned with title and recognition by the society and the industry. The challenge is for both sides and it is always good to learn from different views and dare to speak different voice so that the society can be progressed and learning get enhanced.  
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Politicians should pursue common ground and reasonable consensus rather than elusive ideals.

Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the recommendation and explain your reasoning for the position you take. In developing and supporting your position, describe specific circumstances in which adopting the recommendation would or would not be advantageous and explain how these examples shape your position.

Does the ideal world exist? What should politicians pursue? Some people argue that it is more reasonable for politicians to find common ground and reach consensus, while others believe that politicians should strive for an ideal world. From my perspective, I strongly support the former view in various circumstances.

TS1: Firstly, when it comes to the State’s issues, the consensus among individuals prove the implement of politician’s policy because the concept of ideal varies from person to person.
Eg. follow the majority = different laws in different states (abortion, same-sex marriage) = at least common acceptance in each state

TS2: If we draw our attention to the nation’s issues, reaching a common ground becomes more important, for it the ideal of politicians may sacrifice innocent individuals.
Eg. The Iraq War

TS3: The global issues, harder to guarantee countries’ rights, requires reasonable consensus for the better future of humans. The contradictory concept of ideal between developed and developed countries sometimes lead to unsuccessful meetings.
Eg. The United Nations Climate Change conference in Copenhagen


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ISSUE 49
Claim: We can usually learn much more from people whose views we share than from those whose views contradict our own.
Reason: Disagreement can cause stress and inhibit learning.

开头段:
Opinions vary greatly regarding where the knowledge come from: are they from those agree with us or those whose views contradict our own? The claim and reason suggest that our knowledge is derivative from consensus rather than divergence, and disagreement would occlude the spring of learning. While, it may be true that agreement can largely shape our intellectual, from my respective, disagreement also plays a role that cannot by overlooked.
提纲:
第一段:
Admittedly, as the claim asserts that being gregarious and pursuing sense of belonging in groups distinguishes us from animals, and our gratification culminates in the activities where others share the same ambition with us.
Eg: the first European settlers voyaging on May Flower to North America earth had the same dream of fulfilling their individual value by utilizing their talents and potentials to the maximum in a fair and free continent.
这一段感觉和题目不是特别紧密贴合?非洲草原上的很多动物好像都pursuing sense of belonging in groups,这能把人类和动物区分开吗?
看具体的例子,你应该是想强调不同人之间的合作可以产生更大的效能。可以从有相同理念的人更容易互相欣赏,从而更容易看到别人的优点,也更容易学到东西来论证。主旨句的gratification可以理解,但是不确定恰不恰当。这段也需要老师或其他同学的参考意见,我一个人的力量还是太小。


第二段:把Eg两个字母去掉就是整段
However, the reason of disagreement prohibiting knowledge is doubtful. Disagreement is equally important to enhance our cognition from another angle different from agreement because life is not full of accordance, actually, life is fraught with people of diverse ideas and opinions which is determined by their different backgrounds and environment they come from.
Eg: it is common that scientists with different research methods draw conflict theories, can we think they won’t bear and fruit of knowledge? Of course no. Because of their divergence and restless debates about the truth, we get comprehensible knowledge about the unknown.
标红的部分和another angle好像有点小重复?
Eg这一段的标点符号需要注意。有的句子是两句话,就不要使用逗号了。


第三段:
What’ more, there is not a totally consensus with others, but this difference compel us to utilize different approaches to understand ourselves and acquire a sense of sympathy and comprehension.
Eg: Martin Luther King, who fought for racial equality, once maintained that difference between races should not lead to discrimination and combat, but should be seen as a opportunity by which we can respect mutually.
这段我觉得挺好。

结尾段:
To sum up, while I agree with the issue’s claim, I reserve my approval of its reason. That is to say, our knowledge come through both debates with others holding a contrasting viewpoint and the people sharing our opinions.


感觉层主好像用了一些模板句子或好的短语表达?不过用得不是特别熟练,所以有些句子读起来不够通顺。不过我的英语水平也有限……写太好的我也看不懂ORZ……
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49)Claim: We can usually learn much more from people whose views we share than from those whose views contradict our own.
Reason: Disagreement can cause stress and inhibit learning.

Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the claim and the reason on which that claim is based.
我采用的是第三种方法,对views进行分类。(第一次尝试反对这种观点和理由给出的issue,参考了王老师的范文。)
提纲如下:
开头段:
It’s not totally true or false that we can learn more from people having similar view with us than from people having contradictory view with ours because disagreement often gives people pressure and inhibit learning. Different points in different areas have various meanings. So the justice of the statement is depended on the views.
TS1:In the political field, People can make more progress with sharing different thoughts because it can make us be away from emotional and extreme thinking.
e.g. If everyone have consensus on some important issue, it will be very easy and quick to continue it. But if we always communicate with people sharing similar views with us, we may be satisfied with this condition and we cannot think about something critically and improve the ability of logical thinking.
TS2: In the scientific field, discussions among people having contradictory points make science and technology develop in a better way.
e.g. Scientists can consider about their studies or researches repetitively so that they can figure out bias and problems, then they can correct it in time.  
TS3: When talking about our beliefs, many debates may cause serious results such as conflicts.
e.g. People have freedom to choose their lifestyle and beliefs and others couldn’t comment on the others’ choices. Those choices are just about their own life and thinking. As long as they have right and happy life, we shouldn’t try to use our own thoughts to affect them.

中间段
TS3
Moreover, when talking about our beliefs, many debates may cause serious results such as conflicts. People have freedom to choose their lifestyle and beliefs and others couldn’t comment on the others’ choices. Those choices are just about their own life and thinking. As long as they have right and happy life, we shouldn’t try to use our own thoughts to affect them. For example, someone is a Buddhist, he or she thinks people need to have a kind heart to help others and don’t do any bad things, and they also want to be worship to the Buddha. This is their own way to express beliefs, thus others couldn’t make judgement on it, just respect. And in this condition, sharing view with your groups makes more importance to keep harmony and improvement.

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开头段很清晰,指出了观点也列出了分论点,很棒!可以注意一下复数和格式~
perspectives and views, especially the contrasting point of views. indispensable for a  more peaceful
第一个论点和第二个论点的例子可能写反了。。。论点很明确,也有回题。
中间段:
In the process of policy formulation, different parties put forward the opposite views, the discussion will promote national progress.(Point) As we all know, Democrats and Republicans need to discuss different issues in Congress which build a more efficient country.(Information) Indeed, Democrat always argues for the interests of the civilian population, while Republicans represent merchants and middle class.(Information) As the result of the views of each party is not satisfactory to the other, both of them have to meet somewhere in the middle to that is fair to both factions. (Information) The compromise makes the more efficient country and more satisfied people than an autocratic party.(Elaboration)
中间段同学自己分析啦,很清晰。
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49) Claim: We can usually learn much more from people whose views we share than from those whose views contradict our own.
Reason: Disagreement can cause stress and inhibit learning.
Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the claim and the reason on which that claim is based.

我写提纲时搭建框架所用的方法是第3种  从不同的子方面展开,具体来说,
disagree the ideas would learn much
将learn much细化为 rich ideas/ improvement on both counter parts / avoid compalcency

我的提纲如下
TP:
"I do not agree with your point of view, but I swear to defend your right to speak," Voltaire gain his immortal fame for commenting famously on respecting for contracting views. Some people maintain that only those who sharing similar ideas can teach you more as accompanying with no stress and bar on learning. However, from my point of view, not all the debating words will help a person achieve the immortality of Valtaire, but in common cases, debating helps people broaden their minds, promote themselves on correcting mistakes and avoiding complacency.

TS1
One of the most important advantages we can gain from the contradicting views is the larger chances to broaden our minds.
Examples:Einstein and Pole contract on the physics, however both of them learn from the debate and advance their achievements.
Reasons:Contracting views give us the chance to view the same thing through the lens of different perspective. By thinking in different ways can we widen our minds significantly.

TS2
There exists another advantage that we can get ourselves promoted which cannot obtained by learning from those who share same views.
Examples:Jobs was opposed by the Apple company once, he then change the leader method, and became the CEO again.
Reasons:Contradicting views may come with some advices on correcting the mistakes of us. Therefore it is more benefical to make up for our deficiencies by learning form different views.

TS3
In addition, learing from the countering views can keep us from being self-satisfied.
Examples:Meng Xu, famous general in the Three Kingdoms, acceptted the critics and became very modest to learn.
Reasons: Only by sharing same views will give us the satisfication and moreover will lead to self-content which inhibit further progress. On the contrary, conterpart views will be more alerting to remind us to be humble and never stop to learn.

In addition, learning from the countering viewers keeps us from being self-satisfied which can only be derived from receiving critical ideas. Only by sharing supporting views will give us the satisfaction and moreover will lead to self-content which inhibits further progress. On the contrary, by giving the opposed viewpoints, pointing out the underlying shortcomings of us, the opponents remind us there is a lot to learn and we should keep the humility in our minds. Therefore, it is less likely to make mistakes while being modest and prudent. For example, Meng Lu, a famous general of the Three Kingdoms, had been very arrogant until criticized by the ruler Quan Sun. He realized the his shortcomes and overcame them by accepting the critics and became very modest to learn. Finally he corrected his mistakes and shined in the famous battle to another kingdom as the majority leader.

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感觉这样分类比较清晰,阐述起来也更加客观,需要向你学习!哈哈下面是一点小小改进意见
1.TS段在提出自己观点后能简单阐述下自己讨论的论点最好,方便前后呼应
2.TS3段感觉应该举例为是否学到更多,而不是是否去影响他人观点we shouldn’t try to use our own thoughts to affect them.
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34. In any situation, progress requires discussion among people who have contrasting
points of view
Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the
statement and explain your reasoning for the position you take. In developing and supporting your position, you should consider ways in which the statement might or might not hold true and explain how these considerations shape your position.

There is one saying in China, when you debate more, the truth is much clearer. So I am totally agree with this statement that, in any situation, progress requires discussion among people who have contrasting points of view. It can be proved in many contexts. When it comes to issues in political debate, discussion among parties which have contrasting points of view is very important. As it’s helpful for the progress of the country. It’s also important to discuss different plans in a company before implementing a program. Moreover, when it comes to some criminal case in which the suspect doesn’t have the intention to hurt others first, discussion among people who have contrasting points of view might change the final decision of the case.

TS1: When it comes to political issues, discussion among countries which have contrasting points of view is very necessary. Only through discussion, can progress be made to safeguard the peace.
E g: six-party talk about north korea’s nuclear crisis. Different countries talk about their own needs and their concern to achieve mutual understanding.

TS2: In a company, in order to work out a plan of a program, different ideas are needed. When people with different ideas discuss with each other, it will help them to bring forth a new idea.

TS3: Moreover, when it comes to some criminal cases, discussion among people who have different opinions might change the final decision and save one’s life.  One year ago there was an insulting case in China in which a man called Yu Huan whose mother was insulted by several people for the repayment of debt. In the case, Yu Huan was sentenced to life imprisonment in the first-instance judgement. The judgement caused a wildly discussion in public in which contrasting ideas could be heard. People who have different opinion with the first-instance judgement argued that Yu didn’t have obvious intention to kill anybody first. He just wanted to protect her mother. When his mother was insulted seriously for a long time, he felt desperate and helpless. Then he killed one person who took the lead to insult his mother. After that discussion, that different opinion was heard by the judge and jury. Yu was sentenced to five-year imprisonment. That’s a progress of judiciary.
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34) In any situation, progress requires discussion among people who have contrasting points of view.

Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the statement and explain your reasoning for the position you take. In developing and supporting your position, you should consider ways in which the statement might or might not hold true and explain how these considerations shape your position.



开头段
The statement claims that progress results from discussion among discordant people in any situation. This claim is convincing when we think of scenarios that we do discuss with some people and then make some progress. However, it is so affirmative that I incline to critically consider this problem for the following reasons.


提纲
TS1: Discussion indeed can help people make progress, because people who have different points of view can share and absorbe knowledge at the same time, then promote their own thoughts and knowledge.
Information: Teamwork.
Elaboration: People in a team will share their ideas about one task, and then, analyse them from different views. Extract best part of them and make advanced progress on the procedure.

TS2: However, Admittedly, people who are rigid and stubborn may impede the progress.
Information: Stubborn people will not accept advice that differ from their own ideas.
Elaboration: Refusing to reconcile with others inevitably lead to factions and then it will impede progress of the whole team.

TS3:Therefore, the prerequisites of making progress cannot be ignored.
Information:
1)people keep an open mind and are willing to listen to various ideas.
2)discuss and argue with polite and proper manners.
3)have confidence and strength to be skeptical and at the same time, keep own position and thoughts.


中间段:TS1

Discussion indeed can help people make progress, because people who have different points of view can share and absorbe knowledge at the same time, then promote their own thoughts and knowledge. The most obvious example is teamwork. Since we live in society, we cannot avoid gregarious life, therefore, we need to study, work and live with other people. It is easy to find that when many people integrate their ideas into a whole thing, the task will be much easier and done better than that we do it by ourselves. That is because people in a team will share their ideas about one task, and then, analyse them from different views together. Extract best part of various ideas and make advanced progress on the procedure. Consequently, discussion among people who have contrasting points of view can produce progress.


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这位同学的行文比我流畅好多啊,需要向你学习!

1、agree题目的三个主体段的主题句同表意清晰,但是感觉把TS2和TS3的顺序对调更加有循序渐进的逻辑感,因为不自满才会更加进步,是不是呢?

2、need more appropriate examples
TS2的例子用的Jobs,单从举例的这句话,我有个疑问:Jobs是接受了对他的反对意见,并且听取了其中的意见从而改变自己的leader mode吗?如果没有接受反对意见,即使改变了leader mode也不切合主题句~

2、同学在开头段中写道:“However, from my point of view, not all the debating words will help a person achieve the immortality of Valtaire,……”
但是你的三个主体段都是正面的观点,应该辩证地再用一段来说一下负面因素,例如:听取太多不同意见可能会迷失自己的思想。

3、对于主体段的写作:
讲完例子之后,应该再加一句总结一下这一主体段的内容。
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49) Claim: We can usually learn much more from people whose views we share than from those whose views contradict our own.
Reason: Disagreement can cause stress and inhibit learning.

Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the claim and the reason on which that claim is based.

In my opinion, first, disagreement sometimes indeed arises stress. But it isn’t bound to hamper us from learning. Here I define two kinds of disagreements, namely, the disagreement out of friendly heart and its motivation is that the contradicter wants to help you to promote yourself and the disagreement out of controlling your minds or activity. We also can call the former positive disagreement and the latter negative disagreement. Apparently, the positive disagreement can bolster us find the right way of learning. However, the negative disagreement can inhibit learning. Second, as far as the scientific research concerned, the disagreement doesn’t brings us stress but inspire, which can also help us to learn.

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Normally, we have received all sorts of critics from our parents, teachers, friends. These critics are positive disagreement.
TS2
In the early years, the controversy between science and theology lasted very long time. Since some findings of scientific theory are different from conventional minds, the theologians limited the freedom of scientists and restricted their scientific results from being published. This is definitely the positive disagreements. Galileo Galilei, a astronomer and physicist,  wrote a book named dialogue concerning the two chief world systems, which leaded to the disagreement of the Pope. Then Galilei was forced to acknowledge the wrong theory of geocentric system and was put into prison. Hence, the negative disagreement can restrict people from learning.
TS3
Many scientific results result from the arguments between scientists.  Because the arguments can encourage scientists view problems from a different point and maybe find the solutions to the problems. Isaac Newton developed the particle theory of light. However, Christiaan Huygens worked out a mathematical wave theory of light. The two theory of light are two different theory and both of them can’t fully explain light. Today some experiments have attested the wave-particle duality, which is the results of combination of the theory of  Newton and Huygens. We can see that the disagreement make us find out the final answer.
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1.        建议楼主平时写完放在word里边检查一下,尽量避免拼写错误。absorbe->absorb; analyse->analysis
2.        TS2中Refusing to...一句中的lead,我认为应用单三人称。
3.        这道题的逻辑是:在任何情况下,要想progress就需要discussion among people who have contrasting points of view .作者分析了在何种情况下progress需要和别人讨论(teamwork),以及什么情况下讨论是无效的和怎样讨论才是有效的。总体来说,我觉得有点偏, 楼主不妨分析一下什么情况下,不要讨论也可以progress,比如科学上取得的一些成就,阿基米德发现浮力就不需要和别人讨论。
楼主选用的一些词汇比较好,这点是需要我学习的,语句也比较流畅,以上意见只是一家之言,我个人英语也是个菜鸟,有不当的地方不要放心上。

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49) Claim: We can usually learn much more from people whose views we share than from those whose views contradict our own.

Reason: Disagreement can cause stress and inhibit learning.
Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the claim and the reason on which that claim is based.

这里采用第三种方式。

Whether the claim and the reason hold true or not depends on the specific circumstance of the discussion. When it comes to issue in science and research, discussing with people holding an opposite view can promote the learning as we can more comprehensively examine our theory or method. It is also important to talk about political issues with people from different point of views as we can learn about how others think about the problems. Nevertheless, discussing daily manners with people from different background will lead to much more disagreement and even confliction.

In the field of science or research, discussion among people holding different view of points is truly important for the development of science and technology.
Eg. In the field of computer science, there are people who design different computer systems or software and there are also people who like finding the bugs or flaws of them. Both two kinds of people work together can make the system or software more robust.
Eg. According to the biological research, the method needed to be applied in experiments from frontier researches area are often unclear and people hold different opinions can all apply their own way of doing experiments and exchange the advantages and disadvantage and then develop a more efficient method.

It is also important to talk with people holding other opinions when it comes to political debates.
Eg. According to protecting the environment such as to slow down the process of global-warming. People agree with this proposal think that it can make the environment more convenient to live in. People who do not agree with it think that it can harm the prosperous of the economy. But actually, both sides should be taken into consideration.

Nevertheless, such discussion should be avoided on more sensitive topics where people may become more emotionally charged.  
Eg. According to the daily manners, people from different countries may have their own way. In some countries people greet others by kissing the face but in many Asian countries it is a rude movement, and people always feel embarrassed and annoyed. Such conversation may easily turn into an emotional and irrational conflict as both sides could not hold a rational and peaceful discussion on such a sensitive topic. In cases like this, little can be learned through such discussion as disagreement will likely to cause stress and rule out any possibility of learning.  

In the field of science or research, discussion among people holding different view of points is truly important for the development of science and technology. In the field of computer science, there are people who design different computer systems or software and there are also people who like finding the bugs or flaws of them. Both two kinds of people work together can make the system or software more robust. Plus, according to the biological research, the method needed to be applied in experiments from frontier researches area are often unclear and people hold different opinions can all apply their own way of doing experiments and exchange the advantages and disadvantage and then develop a more efficient method. If the programmer ignores the bugs found by others, the software will easily crash, and if the biological scientists only concentrate on their own methods of doing experiment, they may miss the chance to make new advancement. So we can see that it is really important to talk with people from other perspective as we can make our work more advanced.


感觉在这里学习很有动力,也很开拓视野,但是由于自己是gre菜鸟,对作文的题型才刚刚接触,感觉需要对各种题型有一个清醒的认识。在此感谢王老师和寄托的工作人员以及小伙伴们。

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76) We can usually learn much more from people whose views we share than from people whose views contradict our own.

Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the statement and explain your reasoning for the position you take. In developing and supporting your position, you should consider ways in which the statement might or might not hold true and explain how these considerations shape your position.

I  strongly disagree with the statement,since compared with the people whose life experience and knowledge restoration that are similar with us,people who hold distinct idea from ours and could clearly state their logic usually can promote us to learn a thing from more angles,thus we could have a better understanding and command about it.I would like to elaborate my points from three situations.
In the normal life,when appreciating Movies and musics,most people tend to communicate or argue with those people who have a different view even contradict with us,since it’s the best way for us to comb our own ideas and learn others’ different and unexpected thoughts.In my university,there are several clubs that people join to talk about literature,movies and so on.During the process of discussion,students need to use detailed evidence to clearly present and defend their ideas,and also respond to those ideas who question their position and thoughts.Through a fierce discussion,not only they get their ideas more clearly,but also they detect the deficiecies appeared in their views,which turned out to be much more beneficial than talking with those people who could only agree with their opionion.
When it comes to the Politics or economics policies,the opposing ideas from the civils appear as important as those ideas which support them.Since for a government,it’s always impossible to handle all the situations and take care of all the aspects ,policies usually have several disadvantages for different classes of people,and people need to deal with them so that their life won’t be affected,such a s the laws about taxes,the medical policies,or even the election of president.However,in order to maintain their reputation and get better control of the country,the government never publish any announcements about their policies’ weakness.Thus,it’s significant for the civil to have a conscious mind about the country’s real situation,and learn about those perspectives that are opposing to  the government.In this situation,the contradicting views could help us not to be confused by the bureaucracy.
In addition,for a Individual who is studying certain fields,such as physics,it’s also important for them to have a comprehensive view about the subject,rather than blindly followed one theory and abandon any other possible explaination.eg. light 的particle theory 和wave theory,虽然互相排斥但最终都被证明是正确的,最终帮助我们正确认知了这个世界,因此contradict idea 显得很重要

In conclusion,it’s those people whose opinions are different from us bring us opportunity to learn more things,which we ignored before or feel unnecessary to learn about but actually are important to compensate our cognition.


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60. Politicians should pursue common ground and reasonable consensus rather than elusive ideals.
Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the recommendation and explain your reasoning for the position you take. In developing and supporting your position, describe specific circumstances in which adopting the recommendation would or would not be advantageous and explain how these examples shape your position.


For the better good of the society as a whole, I believe that politicians should pursue reasonable consensus and common ground instead of chasing inaccessible and mysterious ideals. I will illustrate my points by discussing the three major roles politicians take in the government which are legislators, administrators and arbitrators.

  Firstly, for legislators who are responsible for enacting and passing the laws, it would be crucial and almost a must for them to reach a reasonable consensus among majorities before the laws were launched. Usually under the legal framework, the proposed laws need to be agreed by most of the senators therefore, reaching a consensus should be their primary goal in order to be efficient and productive.
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Drunk driving

  Secondly, for arbitrators who are dealing with legal cases between different parties in accordance with the rule of laws, it is also more critical for them to reach a reasonable agreement instead of pursing unrealistic ideals. Most likely, the jurists are the people who are wishing to solve conflicts between different parties and they need to be calm, objective and make rational decisions that would satisfy the right the side and punish the wrong side with the legal framework, which most likely not depend on one’s own ideal.
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  Finally, for the administrators who facilitate, organize and monitor activities, or even make strategic decisions of the nation like the president, it is also much more crucial for them to make reasonable consensus among the general other than blindly follow the baffling ideals. It is especially for true for presidents who are the one that could make huge difference of the nation’s future development.
the Roosevelt New Deal
  
  To conclude, ignoring the others’ voices could be dangerous and risky so it is usually a must for politicians to pursue a rational consensus other than elusive ideals, no matter they are legislators, arbitrators, or administrators.

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49) Claim: We can usually learn much more from people whose views we share than from those whose views contradict our own.
Reason: Disagreement can cause stress and inhibit learning.

Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the claim and the reason on which that claim is based.

Framework:
Intro:
It’s true that people who share common views with us can always give us support and a sense of safety, but they can never provide us with enough chances to jump out of the comfort zone and seek for improvement. While disagreement can frustrate us, it is the best way for us to learn more and improve ourselves. These people who hold different views can be competitors who are trying to frighten us in purpose, devoted friends and family who are giving suggestions as audiences or people who are with the majority while you’re with the minority. No matter who they are, we either realize our mistakes or stick to our belief which is always good learning ways.

Ts1: Disagreement from our competitors give us the strength to finish the competition which stimulates our enthusiasm to win and actually support us to overcome difficulties we might encounter on the way to success.
Examples: in Modern Family, Phil’s competitor tries to tell him how bad he has made the decision to buy this land. Luckily, Phil doesn’t give up and it turns out that his competitor is actually trying to mislead him so that he can get the land.

Ts2: For our true friends and family, they can always give us useful suggestions even their opinions are not with us.
Examples: right suggestions help us correct our mistakes; wrong suggestions remind us of being careful.

Ts3: the opinions of the majority seem like a big obstacle for us, we can nevertheless improve ourselves to justify our views.
Examples: the progress of science is always a progress of the minority’s view defeat the majority’s view: the discovery of the shape of the earth

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