[发现]似乎issue30 （科技目的应该是什么）真正扣题的很少

lakeqianUID: 157560

题目"The primary goal of technological advancement should be to increase people's efficiency so that everyone has more leisure time." 是说科技目的[B]应该[/B] 是什么。
刚才小弟看了几篇习作区和讨论区的文章发现全（不完全统计）是上来就说科技提高了我们的效率，要不然就是降低效率云云。还没见到有人写科技[B]应该[/B] 有什么目的呢。是我跑题还是。。。？？？
希望大家搜几篇30的文章看看，严格扣题的。。。似乎没有啊。

naiba369UID: 131655

hehe,

刚好，计划明天写

cavierUID: 173694

我今天刚好写，知道对于科技的真正目的很不好把握，干对旧避而不谈，说这是一个至今乃至至少是不太远的将来都难以作读出回答的问题，哲学家们也确实为此而苦恼。 然后主要就在驳论了。不知道这样可不可以呢？

lakeqianUID: 157560

晕。我个人觉得这道题不是讨论科技目的是什么，论题应该为：科技目的[B]应该[/B] 是什么。
例如：科技目的[B]应该[/B] 是提高人们效率，因为这样有什么好处。。。
或：科技目的不应该是提高效率，因为。。。
而大多数文章上来就是科技提高（或降低）[B]了[/B] 我们的效率，表现在。。。方面。。。
要区分是规范分析[B]normative[/B] 还是实证[B]positive[/B] 分析。
我觉得280篇里文章也跑题：上来就是empirical ，这和规范分析normative显然不容嘛。第一段在陈述technological advancement 与diminished leisure time。。。

buggodUID: 164979

找了半天,只有这篇还沾点儿边.
从题目来看,应该是说goal的.但确实不好下笔,从效率来下笔应该也可以吧

There is much controversy over this statement,but I doubt it is poblematic.I agree with the view that the primary goal of the technological advancement should make people enjoy more conveniences than before.Here I would give my explanations to dispute the statement which seems reasonable on the surface at first glance.

For one thing,we enjoy the conveniences at any times and places.we can see the tremendous changes of our life brought by the technological advancement.Before the elevator was invented,every one had to reach the top floor by foot,which is such a drudgery.Nowadays we can arrival at the top of the skyscraper easily in the morning and are no longer out of breath in front of the boss.so we can say it is technology that save our energy.At your spare time,you can choose to listen digital music by a discman which is pocketable instead a ponderous tape-recorder and we can say technology make us relax.You can also talk with your friends on internet through which technology help you to transmit your love. At the same time,there are quite a few demands for the more convenient thing to keep the technology developing ceaselessly.All these demonstrate the point that the primary goal should make people ease.

On the other hand,I can easily deduce the fallacy of the statement from general principles. The workweek seems to have stablized as forty hours made up of five eight-hour days since 1990s while the contemporary technology developed rapidly.Can the statement explain this?There is a concrete example which will make us more clear.Statistic shows that there are more and more people choose to work out of the forty hours since 1990 in China.It is when people was satisfied with the conveniences that they can have suffiecnt energy to do more work. From this point,The necessity of making people ease is more important than others.

Certainly,we should admit that technology can increase people'efficiency and give people more leisure time, which is less important,such as the invention of vehicle and machines.

From what we have discussed above,we may finally draw the conclusion that the primary goal of the technological advancement should make people enjoy conveniences.

lakeqianUID: 157560

primary goal of the technological advancement should make people enjoy conveniences.
这句话倒是还行。。。
但是正文论述都是科技让我们有便利没休闲。。。
难道他舌头下压着一个结论。。。存在就是合理？？
小弟已经快短路了~~~~~

PS.嘿，刚发现存在就是合理这句话挺有用处（虽然不对），沟通了实证与规范。。。

imongUID: 140258

is vs should, hehe. ;)

六翼小宇UID: 162533

的确，明天研究一下

lakeqianUID: 157560

是啊。而且说实话。。。看了不少牛人的文章都觉得有问题。。。
众人皆醒我独晕？

cavierUID: 173694

可不可以说这个问题：科技的目的应该是什么？
没有满意的答案呢？
主要是我个人真的是这样认为的
科技实际上是个盲目的进程，其目的都是后来由哲学家们赋予的，作为安慰性的解释。

lakeqianUID: 157560

没有满意的答案。。。这。。。
科技。。。或说研究。。。是人们自觉地行为。。。也有明确的目标。。。

cavierUID: 173694

今天写的，算我第一片习作献丑了，还没有认真改呢，姑且算作让阐释一下我对这个论题的观点，欢迎砖头，最好是鸡蛋，营养丰富且洋相更彻底
------题目------
The primary goal of technological advancement should be to increase people's efficiency so that everyone has more leisure time.
------正文------
In this title, the speaker takes a facial glance at our modern society and makes an unwarranted conclusion that the primary goal of technological advancement should be to increase people's efficiency so that everyone has more leisure time. However, in this assertion, both the cause and its alleged result are not the fact.

One of the results of technological advancement is the increased efficiency though; it needs not to be the primary goal. However, the question that what is the final purpose then, which troubles many philosophies nowadays, may have no proper answer even in the near future, as the technological advancement veils and torts human nature. Actually, if to increase the efficiency is a direct aim of developing technology, it is not achieved well. An example of automation in big factories illustrates here well. With more robots are adopted in the streamline in manufactory industry, our productivity relies more on the computer and some other electrical systems. Unfortunately, electric shortage become a severe problem day by day, as 'black-out' in parts of North America brought great loss not only to industry, but also make peoples everyday life in to inconvenience. What is more, computer virus may invade the controlling system of the factory, and destroy the whole assembling line. All of these are impressive disadvantages that breed the opposite results of the purpose of increasing efficiency.

Even if the automation assembling lines do work well and is really more efficient, it is not necessarily grant everyone more leisure time. On one hand, human nature does not allow us to take a rest for too long a period, though maybe there is any, on the way seeking for more profit, for the aggressive and greed part that roots deeply in it. As soon as we achieved the near future goal, another is set; maybe right doing the period we are enjoying the leisure time increased by the former success.

On the other hand, the profit increased is seized mostly by the few in the society rather than everyone. Again, lets have a look at the situation of workers, whose jobs are taken by the robots and machines. It is true that the total profit of the society is increased, and maybe the wage each worker earn with less working hours also raise, however, the true value of these amount of money is decreased, compared to the higher and higher price for living material. Without an insured income, they have to looking for other works, usually par time ones, and laboring all day long, only living a life form hand to mouth. Where are their leisure times left? Without a guaranteed life, no one will think about leisure time.

Thinking about what I mention above, the conclusion that our society is pacing quicker and quicker for the sake of the development of technology. In some field and sometimes, the efficiency is increased, while under some other conditions, the fact is ironically the opposite. And what is more, there is no more leisure time than before, not only for those whose living recourses cannot be insured, but also for those who benefit a lot from the technological advancement.

lakeqianUID: 157560

第一段你实际上主要论述：Actually, if to increase the efficiency is a direct aim of developing technology, it is not achieved well.
重点应该在科技没目标。举例说明其盲目性。先不要扯到效率。论证好了再提效率变高是一个意外的结果。
其他论述不cogent。

cavierUID: 173694

我的意思是，科技发展对于人类的终极性目标是不存在的，但是有切近的实际的目标，虽然很表面化，那就是效率的提高。
也就是说舍近求远的说科技的目标，然后说即便是这个目标也没有完美的实现。
可能我文章写的时候写着写着就跑了歪了点儿。
多谢金砖

P小PUID: 159020

大家看看这样写有没有跑题的嫌疑呢?

观点: 科技不应该以提高效率进而带来更多leisure time为主要目的.
1. 科技发展必然会带来效率的提高,
2. 效率提高不一定会afford more leisure time
3, 科技发展应该以改善人们生活条件,保障人们健康和安全,充实人们的精神世界等等.