issue5 教育类 国家应该规定一个统一的高中课程 10G修改版

naiba369UID: 131655

Issue5
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A nation should require all its students to study the same national curriculum until they enter college rather than allow schools in different parts of the nation to determine which academic courses to offer. 一个国家应该要求所有的学生在上大学前都学习相同的国内课程，而不是允许不同地区的学校决定自己的教学课程。
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Position: 平衡观点。

正：

1.从文化整个角度：统一的课程设置可以――促进民族、种族的融合，形成共同的文化价值。

2.从教育角度:
A.从受教主体（学生）角度：统一的课程设置可以――保证他们知识结构的完整性。

B.从施教主题（老师，学校，国家教委）：统一的课程设置可以――确保高中毕业生达到一个共同的标准，有利于后期的大学教育

反：
1.从文化整合的角度：
A.建议未必能施行，特别对那些多语言、种族、宗教信仰的国家而言。

B.一味的强调文化的整合会导致种族、民族间的矛盾与冲突，更加背离了教育的目的：促进民族、种族融合，形成共同的文化认同的初衷。

2。 从教育角度：
A.统一的课程会抹煞学生的特性，不能让他们根据自己的兴趣、爱好选择自己喜欢的课程，不利于他们身心的发展。

B.进而，从社会的角度，教育出来的都是完全一样的“产品”，造成人才结构的不合理化。

合：
1．在推广compulsory curriculum 的同时，各地区要根据当地的民族、种族、文化传统开设相应的保护他们文化的additional course。

2．此外，要根据学校的实力，开设一些 elective course， 以满足不同学生兴趣发展的需要。
     
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Should a nation require all its students to study the same curriculum before they enter college? The speaker thinks so, however, I cannot agree with the statement totally. In my opinion, a country has to not only draft a national compulsory curriculum but also encourages different high schools to provide some additional courses concerning the prospective of education and culture.

Admittedly, a same national curriculum can make sure that nearly all the high school students have complete and necessary knowledge structures, which are necessities for their college study or future. Common sense tells us, the curriculum drafted by nation will probably under many experts’ discussions and published eventually. Thus, this national curriculum is authoritative and reasonable. Follow this curriculum; all the high school students will get some basic abilities and knowledge, such as reading, counting, thinking, communicating and etc. And those will be useful for almost all the high school students, whatever they will choose to become an engineer or a writer in the future. Furthermore, the establishment of a same national curriculum can get a fundamental standard, which is necessary for the proceeding education in college. Just for example, if Mike never know what computer really is, while others can easily make programs in Java (a computer language). How can a teacher teach? It is a trouble indeed. From this prospective, a uniform curriculum can get rid of such imbalance in education to a large degree.

Moreover, a same national curriculum will promote culture fusion in the regions where people have different languages, in various races or have special religions. Since misunderstanding and prejudice among people mainly derived from their dissimilar thinking and educational background. Therefore, if a same curriculum can be carried out in those areas, probably, with the uniform courses they adopted and the increasing exchange, they will understand each other gradually. It is known that China has 56 races while they all live in peace and calm with each other in most of time. Why? The key is Chinese government had pressed such a same compulsory curriculum of 9 years all over China in 1975, which is also suit for other 55 races. Thanks to this curriculum, many minority leaders have well trained. Nowadays they all play a significant role in working on the better interaction between minority and majority. So, from this view, a same national curriculum imposes a great impetus on the culture interaction.

However, every sword has two blades. So is this topic. If we only have just one choice and provide no alternatives, we may face a social problem that, our high school students are all identical, without any differences, which denies the aim of education. The goal of education system is cultivating a complete person not only with smart brain and strong body but also having his/her own interest and specialty. Admittedly, the only one curriculum cannot meet various needs, so, it is necessary to for different high schools offer their own special courses to satisfy students’ requests. Just like some high school in East China, especially in Hunan Province, where hold plenty of rivers and lakes. Thus, some high schools provide sports course in water. And lots of Olympic winners are come from there. Fu Mingxia is an excellent illustration, who gets 3 Olympic gold medals in just 12 years. And the only one curriculum cannot make such effect.

Simultaneously, it is possible that the popularization of only one curriculum in those minority regions will cause disharmony, since any compulsory requirement may cause dislike even hate in the extreme. Just like a saying goes, "Things will develop in the opposite direction when they become extreme". It is the same with this issue. Each race has its own culture, which maybe spread from one generation to another. Due to this tough continuity, the more compulsory request adds onto them, the more resistance they will react. Hence, it is necessary to offer some additional courses for those minorities, so as to maintain their unique civilization.

All in all, from the discussion above, we can make a conclusion that a nation should have both a compulsory curriculum and some local additional courses. From the education point, a same curriculum can help students build a strong structure of knowledge, while some elective courses may cultivate students' interest. And from the civilization point, a same curriculum may promote exchange within different races and get culture fusion. While some provincial classes may protect the diversity of various cultures. In a nut shell, we need both: a same compulsory national curriculum and several elective courses.

naiba369UID: 131655

唉，写到就别提了，慢的要死

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LSDUID: 157855

嘻嘻！占座喽！

LSDUID: 157855

这个是我以前写的，希望对你有点用处阿:p
https://bbs.gter.net/showthread.php?threadid=242660

naiba369UID: 131655

呵呵，看看

研究中

y1aoUID: 193299

我来评一下：
楼主所列出的观点都非常不错，给我启发很大，谢谢。（我还没写过这篇）

下面详细评一下前两段，纯属个人观点，楼主或者其他人可以不赞同。
Should a nation require all its students to study the same curriculum before they enter college? The speaker thinks so, however, I cannot agree with the statement totally. ( I think there is no need for the word totally to appear here, for the auther has just contended one position which is a simple positon that nation should require a unified standard national curriculum. Were I the grader , I will regard it as a logical error.)
In my opinion, ...

Admittedly, a same national curriculum can make sure that nearly all the high school students have complete and necessary knowledge structures, which are necessities for their college study or future. Common sense tells us, the curriculum drafted by nation will probably under many experts’ discussions and published eventually. Thus, this national curriculum is authoritative and reasonable. Follow this curriculum; all the high school students will get some basic abilities and knowledge, such as reading, counting, thinking, communicating and etc. And those will be useful for almost all the high school students, whatever they will choose to become an engineer or a writer in the future.( For the above several setences, I would like to suggest  a different way of speaking. Although your have mentioned that the national curriculumn is drafted by experts and used the words like discussing, authoritative and  reasonable, there is no clear or direct logical relation with "high school students will get some basic abilities and knowledge". Experts will sufficiently explain authoritative and discussing to reasonable, but there is no indication that the curiculum that they made are purposed to basic abilities and knowledge. Its purpose could be any kind. It is may be common sense, and it may not be. If you develop this aspect further, your logic will be more appearent and convincing. )
Furthermore...

ElliotUID: 190548

楼主强，我曾经就这个问题请教过偶妈妈，偶妈妈是多年做小学校长的，她的观点你基本上全都提到了！强！45分钟之内打死我也想不出这么多。

不过后来我总结了一下，首先，任何领域都有“单一”与“多元”的对立，教育也不例外；都有“国家意志”和“个人意志”的对立；都有种族独立性的问题；都有“规范”与“自由”的对立。

这样分析其问题来就比较有条例了。

个人浅见，见笑了。

ElliotUID: 190548

全国课表还有一个问题，可能导致全国范围内必须使用同一版本的教科书，可能导致某家出版社造成垄断，垄断可能会加重学生购书负担。

就此问题，还可以用日本文部省推广反华教科书一案来说事，因为这会导致全种族左倾或右倾。

ElliotUID: 190548

楼主好文，推理严禁，用词朴实，我喜欢这种风格。
我说点自己的看法，与楼主探讨一下：

Should a nation require all its students to study the same curriculum before they enter college? The speaker thinks so,[个人感觉这种句式最好在这里用句号] however[然后这里新开一句], I cannot agree with the statement totally. In my opinion, a country has to not only draft a national compulsory curriculum but also encourages different high schools to provide some additional courses concerning the prospective[? 我查了Longman和M-W，都说这是个adj啊] of education and culture.

Admittedly, a[?the] same national curriculum can make sure that nearly all the high school students have complete[? completed] and necessary knowledge structures, which are necessities for their college study[studies] or[and/or] future [career life]. Common sense tells us,[that] the curriculum drafted by nation will probably under many experts’ discussions and[before?] published eventually. Thus, this national curriculum is authoritative and reasonable[感觉推理不够严密，若是我就这样写：Thus we may expect this national curriculum to be excellent and authoritative]. Follow this curriculum;[is this semi-colon necessary?] all the high school students will get some[enough] basic abilities and knowledge, such as reading, counting, thinking, communicating and etc. And those will be useful for almost all the high school students, whatever they will choose to become an engineer or a writer in the future. Furthermore, the establishment of a same national curriculum can get a fundamental standard, which is necessary for the proceeding education in college. Just for example, if Mike never know[knew?] what [a] computer really is, while others can easily make programs[can easily do programming] in Java (a computer language)[楼主CS？同行啊！]. How can a teacher teach[guide them in the same class]? It is a trouble indeed[on the loose :)]. From this prospective[有这种用法？], a uniform curriculum can get rid of such imbalance in education to a large degree.

一时看不完，先贴前一半儿吧。

鬼谷子UID: 159645

占座

imongUID: 140258

, the curriculum drafted by nation will probably under many experts’ discussions and published eventually.

under在这里难道是动词？

有些拼写和文法可能还需要点考究（尤其b4）。不过总体感觉还可以了。关于那个56races的例子 感觉你举出来的口气不爽 一方面自己设问回答得有点 怎么说呢 你说是了就是了 而且那个例子里面 效果这个方面 写得有点虚 感觉就还不够convincing的样子。伏明霞的例子不错。

naiba369UID: 131655

to yao1

Should a nation require all its students to study the same curriculum before they enter college? The speaker thinks so, however, I cannot agree with the statement totally. ( I think there is no need for the word totally to appear here, for the auther has just contended one position which is a simple positon that nation should require a unified standard national curriculum. Were I the grader , I will regard it as a logical error.)
In my opinion, ...

首先，谢谢你给我提出宝贵意见:)，其实我目前的英语水平不是很高，呵呵，可能思路还行把。

关于那个totally，我只是想突出体现我是“部分”赞同speaker的观点的，当然，我目前的英语还处在“词不达意”的阶段，可能不知道怎么用一种比较规范的语言来表达出来。也许用partial 比较恰当，呵呵，不知怎么的，好多词想不起来呀:p

.( For the above several setences, I would like to suggest a different way of speaking. Although your have mentioned that the national curriculumn is drafted by experts and used the words like discussing, authoritative and reasonable, there is no clear or direct logical relation with "high school students will get some basic abilities and knowledge". Experts will sufficiently explain authoritative and discussing to reasonable, but there is no indication that the curiculum that they made are purposed to basic abilities and knowledge. Its purpose could be any kind. It is may be common sense, and it may not be. If you develop this aspect further, your logic will be more appearent and convincing. )

的确是个逻辑漏洞。

我当时想的是，此处并非关键，一般而言，“国家级”的某些文件，起码具有一定的强制力，我觉得这里用common sense就基本可以一笔而过了，毕竟这里不是论述的重点，如果，在这里太耗笔墨，会显得你的论述面面俱到，反而没有重点，我还是觉得“有详有略”比较好，而一般大家都能理解的就没必要细抠了。

To Elliot：你的建议正在研究ing，谢谢！

To 谷子：呵呵，老中医回来了，呵呵，最近干什么呢？^_^

To imong老大，呵呵，最近才发现，我还是个AW的新手呢，:( 写的巨慢!

LSDUID: 157855

不好意思，来晚了:p
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Should a nation require all its students to study the same curriculum before they enter college? The speaker thinks so, however, I cannot agree with the statement totally. In my opinion, a country has to not only draft a national compulsory curriculum but also encourages[encourage这里个根的前面的has to 啊] different high schools to provide some additional courses concerning the prospective of education and culture.

[Admittedly, a same national curriculum can make sure that nearly all the high school students have complete and necessary knowledge structures, which are necessities for their college study or future.] Common sense tells us, the curriculum drafted by nation will probably under many experts’ discussions and published eventually. Thus, this national curriculum is authoritative and reasonable. Follow this curriculum; all the high school students will get some basic abilities and knowledge, such as reading, counting, thinking, communicating and etc. And those will be useful for almost all the high school students, whatever they will choose to become an engineer or a writer in the future. Furthermore, the establishment of a same national curriculum can get a fundamental standard, which is necessary for the proceeding education in college. Just for example, if Mike never know what computer really is, while others can easily make programs in Java (a computer language). How can a teacher teach? It is a trouble indeed. From this prospective, a uniform curriculum can get rid of such imbalance in education to a large degree.[这段写得很清楚而且流畅，赞！！！]

[Moreover, a same national curriculum will promote culture fusion in the regions where people have different languages, in various races or have special religions.] Since misunderstanding and prejudice among people mainly derived from their dissimilar thinking and educational background. Therefore, if a same curriculum can be carried out in those areas, probably, with the uniform courses they adopted and the increasing exchange, they will understand each other gradually. It is known that China has 56 races while they all live in peace and calm with each other in most of time. Why? The key is Chinese government had pressed such a same compulsory curriculum of 9 years all over China in 1975, which is also suit for other 55 races. Thanks to this curriculum, many minority leaders have well trained. Nowadays they all play a significant role in working on the better interaction between minority and majority. So, from this view, a same national curriculum imposes a great impetus on the culture interaction.

However, every sword has two blades[edged]. So is this topic. [If we only have just one choice and provide no alternatives, we may face a social problem that, our high school students are all identical, without any differences, which denies the aim of education.] The goal of education system is cultivating a complete person not only with smart brain and strong body but also having his/her own interest and specialty. Admittedly, the only one curriculum cannot meet various needs, so, it is necessary to for different high schools offer their own special courses to satisfy students’ requests. Just like some high school in East China, especially in Hunan Province, where hold plenty of rivers and lakes. Thus, some high schools provide sports course in water. And lots of Olympic winners are come from there. Fu Mingxia is an excellent illustration, who gets 3 Olympic gold medals in just 12 years. And the only one curriculum cannot make such effect.[个人感觉这个例子的论证深度有点不够]

Simultaneously, [it is possible that the popularization of only one curriculum in those minority regions will cause disharmony, since any compulsory requirement may cause dislike even hate in the extreme.] Just like a saying goes, "Things will develop in the opposite direction when they become extreme". It is the same with this issue. Each race has its own culture, which maybe spread from one generation to another. Due to this tough continuity, the more compulsory request adds onto them, the more resistance they will react. Hence, it is necessary to offer some additional courses for those minorities, so as to maintain their unique civilization.[最后的论点论证力度还不够]

All in all, from the discussion above, we can make a conclusion that a nation should have both a compulsory curriculum and some local additional courses. From the education point, a same curriculum can help students build a strong structure of knowledge, while some elective courses may cultivate students' interest. And from the civilization point, a same curriculum may promote exchange within different races and get culture fusion. While some provincial classes may protect the diversity of various cultures. In a nut shell, we need both: a same compulsory national curriculum and several elective courses.

[总体感觉很不错，论证平稳有力度，向楼主学习:p]

ally00lingUID: 178366

楼主强，受益！：）~~

个人一点建议：
1 我记得外教曾说过“sword has two blades”和“coin has two sides”一样，是cliche，尽量不用。这点应该相信老外的经验。:)

2 个人认为，我国之所以民族团结，和统一课程的联系有点牵强，其实是因为少数民族人口实在太少，还有我们比较重视统一战线的政策吧。但是老美到未必明白：P

3 你提到 “we may face a social problem that, our high school students are all identical, without any differences”其实我们都是这样教出来的，但是谁和谁identical呢？不愿承认吧。一样的课程，只要够inspiring，就不会教出一样的人。

blur13_0UID: 150275

naiba369 , 写得好啊，我正愁没思路，看了你的文章启发很大！
太多优点不多说，我就扔块小砖，纯属鸡蛋里挑骨头阿 ;)

Should a nation require all its students to study the same curriculum before they enter college? The speaker thinks so, however, I cannot agree with the statement totally. In my opinion, a country has to not only draft a national compulsory curriculum but also encourages different high schools to provide some additional courses concerning the prospective不用名词？ of education and culture.

Admittedly, a same national curriculum can make sure that nearly all the high school students have complete and necessary knowledge structures, which are necessities for their college study or future. Common sense tells us, the curriculum drafted by nation will probably under many experts’ discussions and published eventually.个人感觉上，下句可以和起来说更有效率 Thus, this national curriculum is authoritative and reasonable. Follow this curriculum; all the high school students will get some basic abilities and knowledge, such as reading, counting, thinking, communicating and etc. And those will be useful for almost all the high school students, whatever they will choose to become an engineer or a writer in the future. Furthermore, the establishment of a same national curriculum can get a fundamental standard, which is necessary for the proceeding education in college. Just for example, if Mike never know what computer really is, while others can easily make programs in Java (a computer language). How can a teachertutor大学教师 teach? It is a trouble indeed. From this prospectiveperspective, a uniform curriculum can get rid of such imbalance in education of different regions加这个可以提一下地方的不足to a large degree用largely行吗.

Moreover前面用了furthermore这里用besides怎么样, a same national curriculum will promote culture fusion in the regions where people have different languages, in various races or have special religions. Since misunderstanding and prejudice among people mainly derived from their dissimilar thinking and educational background. Therefore, if a same curriculum can be carried out in those areas, probably, with the uniform courses they adopted and the increasing exchange, they will understand each other gradually.这段话合到例子里说会不会更好呢 It is known that China has 56 races while they all live in peace and calm with each other in most of time. Why? The key is Chinese government had pressed such a same compulsory curriculum of 9 years all over China in 1975, which is also suit for other 55 races.没说为何能适应所有的民族啊？ Thanks to this curriculum, many minority leaders have well trained这个词有点狠啊， 可以换个只有教育的意思的词. Nowadays they all play a significant role in working on the better interaction between minority and majority. So, from this view, a same national curriculum imposes a great impetus on the culture interaction.粒子很好啊，但只说the key is… 有点猛，建议反证法，说如果政府不这样就可能。。。甚至。。。民族裂痕。。。国家分裂。。。赫赫，扯远了。。。

However, every sword has two blades. So is this topic. If we only have just one choice and provide no alternatives, we may face a social problem that, our high school还应包括elementary education students are all identical, without any differences, which denies the aim of education. 上下句合起来吧The goal of education system is cultivating a complete person not only with smart brain and 删strong body but also having换concerning his/her own interest and specialty. Admittedly是让步语气，可换个词, the only one curriculum cannot meet various needs, so,这句实在重复论证阿，觉得可以删 it is necessary to for different high schools offer their own special courses to satisfy students’ requests. Just like some high school in East China, especially in Hunan Province, where hold plenty of rivers and lakes. Thus, some high schools provide sports course in water. And lots of Olympic winners are come from there. Fu Mingxia is an excellent illustration, who gets 3 Olympic gold medals in just 12 years. And the only one curriculum提醒one curriculum不等于uniform courses cannot make such effect.

Simultaneously, it is possible that the popularization of only one curriculum in those minority regions will cause disharmony, since any compulsory requirement may cause dislike even hate in the extreme. Just like a saying goes, "Things will develop in the opposite direction when they become extreme".我觉得没必要再引名言了，因为你已经说得很明白了 It is the same with this issue. Each race has its own culture, which maybe spread from one generation to another. Due to this tough continuity, the more compulsory request adds onto them, the more resistance they will react. Hence, it is necessary to offer some additional courses for those minorities, so as to maintain their unique civilization.有点循环论证了，可以进一步说，多民族语言的例子阿

All in all, from the discussion above, we can make a conclusion that a nation should have both a compulsory curriculum and some local additional courses. From the education point, a same curriculum can help students build a strong structure of knowledge, while some elective courses may cultivate students' interest. And from the civilization point, a same curriculum may promote exchange within different races and get culture fusion. While some provincial classes may protect the diversity of various cultures. In a nut shell, we need both: a same compulsory national curriculum and several elective courses.说得好！关键是既要fusion the whole又要respective concern and preserve the diversity, 但结尾我觉得可以缩一半