issue244 社会对思想家的重视 重新写的，思路什么的都换过了，希望大家拍！

圣光UID: 193720

244"Most societies do not take their greatest thinkers seriously, even when they claim to admire them."

Since the human society came into being, greatest thinkers have contributed a lot to the development of it. Therefore, Aristotle, Socrates, Newton, Einstein, all of their achievements are remembered by the society; and they, at the same time, are respected by people. In short, it is obvious that greatest thinkers are the most vital component of the society, and they are respected by the whole world.

First of all, let us turn to the ancient time. Aristotle, the most famous philosopher in the ancient Greece, is a good example. Aristotle considered both the inner world of the human and the natural mysteries in the world, and discovered many principles, which not only contributed to the development of science of the ancient time, but are beneficial to contemporary society. Therefore, he both respected by people in his times and by people nowadays. He had nearly the most students in his times, and his principles were thought as axioms for thousands of years. He is now considered as the progenitor of the philosophy and natural science. His thoughts are researched by many people all over the world. There are his statues in many places of the world, which indicate that he is respected by people all over the world. Generally speaking, he is admired by both the ancient people and the current people. Thinking that an ancient thinker is so popular in the world, it is unfair to claim that the society do not take their greatest thinkers seriously.

Einstein, another illustration, can demonstrate that in the contemporary world, our society considers more about the thinkers, due to the need of the development of itself. Einstein was one of the most successful scientists in the 20th century, who discovered the theory of relativity. What does his theory bring to us? The answer is the explanations of many puzzles that cannot be solved for many years, the development of technology, and the improvement of the out-space exploration. Because of these contributions, Einstein was respected by both people and government: many universities invited him to be honorary professor; he won Nobel Prize, which is the highest honor of a scientist; his suggestion was considered by the president of the USA when he made decision on developing nuclear weapon. From my angle, Einstein was admired and will be honored forever.

Admittedly, there are indeed many greatest thinkers not accepted by the society in the history. However, their unacceptance is due to the following reasons, which cannot reflect the true attitude of the society toward them. The first reason is the rulers want to protect their governing, and deny the thinkers' opinion, even persecuted them. Here is a strong example. Galileo was persecuted by Vatican because he support Copernicus' theory that the Sun is the centre of the solar system, which threatened the governing of Vatican. However, he is considered today as the most famous thinker and admired by all the people in the world. Another reason is that the society is not that developed to accept the clairvoyant thoughts that are created by the greatest thinkers. Mendel, for instance, discovered the three laws of genetics, which were not thought much of until he was dead for many years. People in that time cannot understand his theory because he was too outstanding. But he is respected as the progenitor of the genetics nowadays. In short, under some certain condition, the greatest thinkers are not regarded by the society, however, that does not mean they will be neglected by people forever. Once their discoveries are proved to be right, they will be admired by not only people, but also the society.

In the final analysis, greatest thinkers were respected from the ancient time. And with the development of the contemporary world, they will be more and more regarded, because both the people and the society are conscious of their important role in the development of the society.

圣光UID: 193720

唉~~~
自己顶上来吧！

ilmfampUID: 188503

我对你的思路的理解是：（分析的不对还请原谅哦）
Position-大多数社会都很尊敬the greatest thinkers
support1:ancient time人们respect them
support2:contemporary people respect them
support3:伟大的思想家即使当时不被接受也终会被尊敬.
我的感觉是：support1和support2只有时间上的差别，两个例子没有实质的差别，而且就像argument里面分析的，个体不能代表全部。而1，2和3之间的逻辑关系我体会不出来。
然后还有一个问题就是对thinker的理解，我认为是指思想家，比如 Aristotle,Confuius,Man Zedong.Einstien的相对论是物理范畴的，我不知道能不能说他是thinker,遗传学家Mendel按照我的理解也不是思想家。如果thinker就理解为One who thinks or reasons in a certain way（金山词霸），似乎科学家都可以算是thinker，不知道大家怎么理解？

圣光UID: 193720

to楼上：
这个题目觉得比较难写，属于抽象类的题目。
看了一下别人的提纲，还有结合新东方老师上课讲的，
我觉得这样的题目只要确定观点并举例论证即可。
不知道这样行不行？
至于thinker的理解我觉得应该是一个大的范畴吧，
不应该只局限于普通意义上面的人文类别。
还是希望能够有高人来指导一下，要不这篇作文觉得无从写起啊！

nickaaronleeUID: 183378

Since the human society came into being, greatest thinkers have contributed a lot to the development of it. Therefore, （Aristotle, Socrates, Newton, Einstein, all of their achievements are remembered by the society; and they, at the same time, are respected by people. 有些冗长，用both and连接）In short, it is obvious that greatest thinkers are the most vital component of the society, and they are respected by the whole world.
我也觉得thinker看成一个大的范畴来写比较好，楼主的论证挺全面的，最后也辩证的谈了一下，感觉不错，加油~~~

xiongyicnUID: 192745

WM,admire: to regard with admiration
                                admiration:1.an object of esteem2.delighted or astonished approbation


244"Most societies do not take their greatest thinkers seriously, even when they claim to admire them."

Since the human society came into being, greatest thinkers have contributed a lot to the development of it. Therefore, Aristotle, Socrates, Newton, Einstein, all of their achievements are remembered by the society; and they, at the same time, are respected by people. In short, it is obvious that greatest thinkers are the most vital component of the society, and they are respected by the whole world.

First of all, let us turn to the ancient time. Aristotle, the most famous philosopher in the ancient Greece, is a good example. Aristotle considered both the inner world of the human and the natural mysteries in the world, and discovered many principles, which not only contributed to the development of science of the ancient time, but are beneficial to contemporary society. Therefore, he wasboth respected by people in his times and by people nowadays. He had nearly the most students in his times, and his principles were thought as axioms for thousands of years. 如何证明他在当时被人们所尊重的？学生多，几千年认为是公理就表明被当时人尊重，太单薄了，并且没有深入He is now considered as the progenitor of the philosophy and natural science. His thoughts are researched by many people all over the world. There are his statues in many places of the world, which indicate that he is respected by people all over the world. Generally speaking, he is admired by both the ancient people and the current people. Thinking that an ancient thinker is so popular in the world, it is unfair to claim that the society do not take their greatest thinkers seriously.
take sb. seriously，我认为是重视的意思.而admire从MW来看含有尊重的意思，我认为issue应该理解为：“多数的社会都不足够重视伟大的思想家，即使他们声称尊敬他们

Einstein, another illustration, can demonstrate that in the contemporary world, our society considers more about the thinkers, due to the need of the development of itself. Einstein was one of the most successful scientists in the 20th century, who discovered the theory of relativity. What does his theory bring to us? The answer is the explanations of many puzzles that cannot be solved for many years, the development of technology, and the improvement of the out-space exploration. Because of these contributions, Einstein was respected by both people and government: many universities invited him to be honorary professor; he won Nobel Prize, which is the highest honor of a scientist; his suggestion was considered by the president of the USA when he made decision on developing nuclear weapon. From my angle, Einstein was admired and will be honored forever.

Admittedly, there are indeed many greatest thinkers not accepted by the society in the history. However, their unacceptance is due to the following reasons, which cannot reflect the true attitude of the society toward them. The first reason is the rulers want to protect their governing, and deny the thinkers' opinion, even persecuted them. Here is a strong example. Galileo was persecuted by Vatican because he support Copernicus' theory that the Sun is the centre of the solar system, which threatened the governing of Vatican. However, he is considered today as the most famous thinker and admired by all the people in the world. Another reason is that the society is not that developed to accept the clairvoyant thoughts that are created by the greatest thinkers. Mendel, for instance, discovered the three laws of genetics, which were not thought much of until he was dead for many years. People in that time cannot understand his theory because he was too outstanding. But he is respected as the progenitor of the genetics nowadays. In short, under some certain condition, the greatest thinkers are not regarded by the society, however, that does not mean they will be neglected by people forever. Once their discoveries are proved to be right, they will be admired by not only people, but also the society.

In the final analysis, greatest thinkers were respected from the ancient time. And with the development of the contemporary world, they will be more and more regarded, because both the people and the society are conscious of their important role in the development of the society.

感觉没有充分分析这个issue的复杂性和深入的论证，只是摆出了一些例子泛泛而谈。这个题目的确不太容易，写成这样，也不容易了，我才刚开始写issue，正写政治类，希望多互改作文，共同进步。对于这个题目，我提几点我的想法：
1。我对题目的理解是：多数的社会都不足够重视伟大的思想家，即使他们声称尊敬他们。我的位置是：社会的确有些不够重视思想家，但是民主社会要求对伟大思想家的足够重视。
2。为什么不重视思想家，因为思想家对社会的贡献和成效不是短期很看见和体会到的，这不像科学家，工程师，艺术家，需要长期的文化积累才能感受到，这是不是这个issue所蕴含的意思？瞎猜的！不一定非要举什么伟人的例子这里，我一时也想不到，就可以把思想家，科学家，艺术家等的成就作个比较，得出结论，的确思想家的成效不是短期内能感受到的，从而造成社会对他们不重视。
3。在2的基础上（即部分肯定原论述），提出思想家对社会更为深远的影响和作用，特别提出一个对民主呼声越来越高的社会和全球化文化冲击越来越大的时代，必须足够重视他们。这个比较好论证，实例也比较多。
4。最后再总结展望一下，升华一下。

希望大家指正

zzqcraftUID: 195018

非常同意楼上的观点。

我再谈谈我自己的看法，有不对的时候请大家多多指正：
1。我感觉第3段Einstein的例子摆的不是太好，我们也不需要花太多的篇幅在介绍他的成就上
2。第3段与第4段的 逻辑关系不是很明确

乒乓球爱上九月UID: 162925

顶一下,似乎没有讨论完啊~

圣光UID: 193720

to xiongyicn:
你的思路我也很赞赏呢，不过我觉得不应该把thinker单纯理解成为一些社会人文方面的人比如哲学家什么的，我觉得那些在自然科学上面有成就的人也可以是思想家啊。thinker就是一些善于思想的人或者是用一定方法思考的人，而符合这样的条件的人不论是社会学家，人文学家，科学家，艺术家都应该纳入这样的范畴之中。所以如果按照你的思路，我想也是可以写的，不过似乎不需要象你说的用科学家之类去衬托思想家，将其概念缩小。即使不用对比，我们也可以很好的证明 thinkers不受到重视。因为他们有一些发现是不能被当时有限的社会认知水平认可的，有时候统治阶级为了自己统治的利益而故意不采纳他们的思想，比如说Bluno,Galilio他们。
现代社会要求对他们更加重视也就更加好写，因为你将thinker的概念延伸了，就不仅仅是社会民主方面，全球化方面需要，社会的发展，技术的进步同样需要思想家的参与，这样可能论证更加全面，更加彻底。
希望大家给予指正。