issue36同主题第二期作业,写的逻辑不是很清

kkytUID: 188814

36. "The greatness of individuals can be decided only by those who live
after them, not by their contemporaries."
一个人是否伟大是由后人评定的而非他同时代的人。
反对
B1 同时代的人更了解当时的情况，与伟人具有相同的意识形态，价值取向，因此对greatness比后来人，更能作出正确的判断
B2 同时代人受认识水平的制约，后人可能会更好的判断某些伟大
B3greatness是客观的，但是评价是主观的，当贡献符合当时人的价值取向，意识形态时，会时就能决定，当超越了当代，就有后人。
结论：不应盲目说是哪个要具体分析。

Can the greatness of individuals be determined only by their descendents as the speaker's claim? In my view the speaker unfairly generalized. Actually, who will decide the greatness of individuals is case by case. Sometimes the merit of individuals was only appraised by their coeval people, while others may be decided by people who lived after them.

To begin with, as far as some certain celebrities’ feats are concerned, they were appraised by their contemporaries because it was the people who lived in the same era that realized the temporal conditions and circumstances. For example, about the evaluation of YueFei, a hero who fought against the invasion of Jin, people lived in their dynasty had already considered him as a nation hero. However, from our perspective nowadays, we may regard YueFei's behavior as only one kind of sincerity for his emperor since we can not know exactly what the ideology of our ancients. To the same, a good example which may illustrate my idea may be the deed of Mother Teresa. In order to honor her contribution to the poor people, she received the Nobel Prize in Peace. Suppose that when the day that no paupers exist, our descendents may not truly appreciate the significance of her greatness to help paupers in respect that they can not imagine the life of the poor. Therefore, with the given productivity and ideology, sometimes, only the contemporaries can evaluate the greatness of individuals comprehensively.

Secondly, with the development of science and technology, some contributions that can not be recognized may be praised by those who live after them. As we know, as the limit cognition of the people in one era, people could not recognize the importance of certain discoveries and inventions, which will necessarily be found by those who lived after them. Take the application of Penicillin for example, it took about 10 years from the discovery of Penicillin to its' first application for therapy. The reason is that all the doctors refused to accept scientific data that had been proved by Alexander Fleming. In fact, history is laded with this kind of things. For example, Copernicus‘s theory of heliocentric which once be condemned as the heresy has become commonsense nowadays. To the same, the relativity theory once had been rejected by the peers of Einstein. Thus, with the development of knowledge and technology, the greatness of individuals will be appreciated by their descendents.

In fact, the contributions of the man who had made were objective which would not disappear, while the evaluation of their work may be subjective and would change by different people. If their greatness accorded with the cognition ability of their contemporaries, it would accept by them. If their contribution had overtook the recognition ability of their contemporaries that would be rejected by them would finally be accolade by the people lived after them.


In sum, we should not rash to give the judgment right to the people who live after them and have to make our conclusion according to the different situations and the contributions that the giants have made.

davidjackyUID: 135962

推荐和https://bbs.gter.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=253823互改一下，然后我再看看。

runningpiggyUID: 194977

Can the greatness of individuals be determined only by their descendents as the speaker's claim?(能想一些不是问题的开头吗?个人感觉以问题的开头应该是最后没有办法之下的选择) In my view the speaker unfairly generalized. Actually, who will decide the greatness of individuals is case by case. Sometimes the merit of individuals was only appraised by their coeval people, while others may be decided by people who lived after them.

To begin with, as far as some certain celebrities' feats are concerned, they were appraised by their contemporaries because it was the people who lived in the same era that realized the temporal conditions and circumstances. For example, about the evaluation of YueFei, a hero who fought against the invasion of Jin, people lived in their dynasty had already considered him as a nation(national) hero. However, from our perspective nowadays, we may regard YueFei's behavior as only one kind of sincerity(感觉用loyalty比较好) for his emperor since we can not know exactly what the ideology of our ancients (is). To the same, a good example which may illustrate my idea may be the deed of Mother Teresa. In order to honor her contribution to the poor people(the poor就够了), she received the Nobel Prize in Peace. Suppose that when the day that no paupers exist, our descendents may not truly appreciate the significance of her greatness to help paupers in respect that they can not imagine the life of the poor. Therefore, with the given productivity and ideology, sometimes, only the contemporaries can evaluate the greatness of individuals comprehensively.

Secondly, with the development of science and technology, some contributions that can not be recognized may be praised by those who live after them. As we know, as the limit(limited) cognition of the people in one era, people could not recognize the importance of certain discoveries and inventions, which will necessarily be found by those who lived after them. Take the application of Penicillin for example, it took about 10 years from the discovery of Penicillin to its'(its) first application for therapy. The reason is that all the doctors refused to accept scientific data that had been proved by Alexander Fleming. In fact, history is laded with this kind of things. For example, Copernicus's theory of heliocentric which once be condemned as the heresy has become commonsense(不能这么说吧, 以现在的人来看, 哥白尼的理论是不对的阿. 应该说人们认识到哥白尼的理论比他的前人要更进步) nowadays. To the same, the relativity theory once had been rejected by the peers of Einstein. Thus, with the development of knowledge and technology, the greatness of individuals will be appreciated by their descendents.

In fact, the contributions of the man who had made were objective which would not disappear(这里不如用so...that...吧, 要不用个and连接就好了, 这个定语从句怪怪的), while the evaluation of their work may be subjective and would change(语法好像有问题) by different people. If their greatness accorded with the cognition ability of their contemporaries, it would accept(be accepted) by them. If their contribution had overtook(overtaken) the recognition ability of their contemporaries that would be rejected by them would finally be accolade by the people lived after them.(这句看得有点晕)

In sum, we should not(be) rash to give the judgment right to the people who live after them and have to make our conclusion according to the different situations and the contributions that the giants have made.


总的来说, 语言挺好的, B1, B2的例子都很充分(哥白尼的例子我本来也想用,可是想不起他的名字怎么写了), 但感觉上还可以展开点来说, 比如说说这些例子怎么证明你的观点. 文章中有些语法错误, B3的存在是个问题, B3到底是想表达什么(可能是因为我没看懂你最后那句话是什么意思).

山坡羊UID: 169978

Can the greatness of individuals be determined only by their descendents as the speaker's claim? In my view the speaker unfairly generalized. Actually, who will decide the greatness of individuals is case by case. Sometimes the merit of individuals was only appraised by their coeval people, while others may be decided by people who lived after them.

To begin with, as far as some certain celebrities’ feats[用fates是否更好？] are concerned, they were appraised by their contemporaries because it was the people who lived in the same era that realized the temporal conditions and circumstances. For example, about the evaluation of YueFei, a hero who fought against the invasion of Jin, people lived in their dynasty had already considered him as a nation hero. However, from our perspective nowadays, we may regard YueFei's behavior as only one kind of sincerity for his emperor since we can not know exactly what the ideology of our ancients. To the same, a good example which may illustrate my idea may be the deed of Mother Teresa. In order to honor her contribution to the poor people, she received the Nobel Prize in Peace. Suppose that when the day that no paupers exist, our descendents may not truly appreciate the significance of her greatness to help paupers in respect that they can not imagine the life of the poor. Therefore, with the given productivity and ideology, sometimes, only the contemporaries can evaluate the greatness of individuals comprehensively.
[我明白你的意思，但例子似乎不够说服力，你或许可以说秦始皇，大家说他有功，但那时人天天修长城肯定一点不觉得他有功劳]
Secondly, with the development of science and technology, [觉得这分句不能概括主题句，且无用]some contributions that can not be recognized may be praised by those who live after them. As we know, as the limit cognition of the people in one era, people could not recognize the importance of certain discoveries and inventions, which will necessarily be found by those who lived after them. Take the application of Penicillin for example, it took about 10 years from the discovery of Penicillin to its' first application for therapy. The reason is that all the doctors refused to accept scientific data that had been proved by Alexander Fleming. [In fact, history is laded with this kind of things. For example,不要，用and 就好了吧] Copernicus‘s theory of heliocentric which once be condemned as the heresy has become commonsense nowadays. To the same, the relativity theory once had been rejected by the peers of Einstein. Thus, with the development of knowledge and technology, the greatness of individuals will be appreciated by their descendents.

In fact, the contributions of the man who had made were objective which would not disappear, while the evaluation of their work may be subjective and would change by different people. If their greatness accorded with the cognition ability of their contemporaries, it would accept by them. If their contribution had overtook the recognition ability of their contemporaries that would be rejected by them would finally be accolade by the people lived after them.


In sum, we should not rash to give the judgment right to the people who live after them and have to make our conclusion according to the different situations and the contributions that the giants have made.

[主要说提纲吧，是觉得有点乱，2段说现场感（其实不是站在同样立场）更有发言权，和4段重合又不完全重合，……写个论文是可以，But 这是作文，就放弃吧。建议把4段放到前面，把第2段改为能认识成就的段落
嗬嗬，有时疑惑，我们有必要向那么复杂吗？]

kkytUID: 188814

对楼上二位的修改,表示衷心感谢.错误正在改正中,一起进步