Issue87 看见大家都在讨论 欢迎拍砖! 必回拍

pringleUID: 195431

------题目------
In any field of inquiry, the beginner is more likely than the expert to make important discoveries.
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Is the beginner of any research field more likely than the expert to make important discoveries as the author asserted? As far as I am concerned, it should not be so cursory to make the conclusion that beginners are much easier to make great feats to human beings. In fact, the condition should be considered case by case. The common situation is that beginners are prone to establish new ideas in theoretical fields, while in some experimental related areas; it's harder for beginners to find new things than experts.

In some theoretical fields, beginners’ creative thinking and cognition are beneficial for them to make important discoveries. As the beginners are less limited by the existent knowledge or theoretical structure, their characteristics of innovation help them outweigh the thought of experts. Furthermore, they are always full of energy and vigor, which happens to meet the theoretical discoveries needs. Einstein, the famous physicist, concluded the theory of relativity at his 25 years old; Bohr, the founder of quantum mechanics, put forward the new doctrine of atomic orbit when he was 27; and Dirac, who established relativistic quantum mechanics, succeeded in his 27. They were so young that they did not set foot in these theoretical fields for a long time, but they all made big contributions which benefits the whole people in the world. So, in SUCH fields, beginners can establish important discoveries than experts.

However, it is not always the case in every research area, which needs experience rather than the spark of mind, such as experimental science and technological fields. For example, the Madame Curie and Peter Curie spent four years in laboratory trying to find out the radioactive element and at last extracted only 0.12 gram of useful ingredient from several tons of  pitch. Without thousands of failure and accumulated experience, the success could not come to them. Another case is point is Kinsey whose report firstly brought forward distinguished theory to American gender problem (性学问题,不知道该怎么说). His success was attributed to analyzing phenomena and statistical a large amount of data, which could not be finished by a greed hand. So it is not possible for the beginners to get achievement when comes to subjects which need painstaking experiment. Only with the experts' decision and acquirements, the successful results could be got.

If the beginners and experts could cooperate with each other, it is significant to achieve wanted results. As the beginners' imagination and agility tend to find new ways of resolution, their thoughts will not be qualified by the previous ones. The experts, however, are full with sophisticated skills in pragmatic activities, and they know more about the mobility of certain field. Thus it is experts' experience and knowledge which can compensate the beginners' ignorance of the history or the whole situation of current research. The process of discovery of Kepler’s law is a good example. After over ten years of he’s teacher’s observation to the movement of celestial bodies and experienced summarization of data, he concluded Kepler’s law from his unique and exceeded scope. Given the cooperation of experts and beginners, any fields of inquiry could reach an undeterminable outcome.

To sum up, beginners are the growing strength to a field, and their construction will bring innovative discoveries to resolve some difficult problems which frustrate experts for many years. On the other hand, experts' leading role of certain subjects should not be ignored, which would retrench time in doing repeating works by beginners. Further, it is important for experts and beginners to cooperate and exert their advantages to improve the science development.

davidjackyUID: 135962

各位，尤其是刚来寄托的朋友们（1贴的），要想取得别人的信任和尊重就要主动一点，作文版是个互动的版面，请大家充分利用这里的条件，互相结队批改作文，从自己作起；并希望加入寄托的同主题写作中来讨论分析GRE写作的问题；如果你对版面和我的批改有什么意见和建议，请及时PM给我，我会给予解释或更正，谢谢。

【以下是近期的链接，请大家主动一点，消灭零回复，对于“尸位者”(经常占位不改的)，请大家予以揭发和举报，寄托将还大家一个公道】

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xiongyicn 发帖数: 79 issue61 越学越烂,咋办??还有一周要考了,从未得到版主大人的指点啊
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No.1 issue41 主流科学和超自然.发现写得没轻没重,完全凑字数.拍我一下,考完后一定回拍
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ivyshoul 发帖数: 111 No.1 issue 183 不怎么好写啊
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Mars3000 发帖数: 20 No.1 issue162 刚才那篇打不开，再发一个吧。第三稿，巨超时，逻辑有些牵强，请哪位帮忙看看有否抢救价值。乐于
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lunatic 发帖数: 74 No.1 Issue 186 感觉后面有点跑题了
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pringle 发帖数: 15 Issue87 看见大家都在讨论 欢迎拍砖! 必回拍
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laofo 发帖数: 23 issue185 昨日高频_写得怎么还是这么烂—留下回拍地址
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shengzhongbell 发帖数: 14 Issue 7 拍砖请留回拍地址
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situhuizi 发帖数: 9 No.1 Issue 147欢迎砖头！
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xueer 发帖数: 4 No.1 issue218 please and thank you
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onlyxiaobai 发帖数: 17 No.1 Issue181,题目很长，写得也很慢，还好没有超时！大家帮忙拍！
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fengconglee 发帖数: 8 Issue50 第2篇 你拍我，我必回拍
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捕梦者 发帖数: 1 issue 87 beginners and experts V2.0 眼高手低,好郁闷!
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willor 发帖数: 4 Issue87感觉很难写，也写得很烂 欢迎排砖，留下地址保证回拍
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wng0 发帖数: 2 No.1 Issue99 心想怎么也算准备了一回作文，不能连一篇也不发吧？于是乎。。
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virathena 发帖数: 5 issue185 高频题啊，大家支点着吧
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llamas 发帖数: 1 No.1 Issue153 第一篇“难产“四小时，大家给看看，谢
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mummybaby 发帖数: 1 issue108,欢迎大家的砖头,多多指教
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iverUID: 198348

No.1 Issue87 看见大家都在讨论 欢迎拍砖! 必回拍
------题目------
In any field of inquiry, the beginner is more likely than the expert to make important discoveries.
------正文------
Is the beginner of any research field more likely than the expert to make important discoveries as the author asserted? As far as I am concerned, it should not be so cursory to make the conclusion that beginners are much easier to make great feats to human beings. In fact, the condition should be considered case by case. The common situation is that beginners are prone to establish new ideas in theoretical fields, while in some experimental related areas; it's harder for beginners to find new things than experts.

In some theoretical fields, beginners’ creative thinking and cognition are beneficial for them to make important discoveries. As the beginners are less limited by the existent existed knowledge or theoretical structure, their characteristics of innovation help them outweigh the thought of experts. Furthermore, they are always full of energy and vigor, which happens to meet the theoretical discoveries needs. Einstein, the famous physicist, concluded the theory of relativity at his 25 years old; Bohr, the founder of quantum mechanics, put forward the new doctrine of atomic orbit when he was 27; and Dirac, who established relativistic quantum mechanics, succeeded in his 27. They were so young that they did not set foot in these theoretical fields for a long time, but they all made big contributions which benefits the whole people in the world. So, in SUCH fields, beginners can establish important discoveries than experts.例子不错,但是仍然缺乏根据,这些获得发现的青年人是否是beginner?,年轻但是不一定是beginner呀?!

However, it is not always necessarily the case in every research area, which needs more experience rather than the spark of mind, such as experimental science and technological fields. For example, the Madame Curie and Peter Curie spent four years in laboratory trying to find out the radioactive element and at last extracted only 0.12 gram of useful ingredient from several tons of pitch. Without thousands of failure and accumulated experience, the success could not come to them. Another case is point is Kinsey whose report firstly brought forward distinguished theory to American gender problem (性学问题,不知道该怎么说). His success was attributed to analyzing phenomena and statistical a large amount of data, which could not be finished by a greed hand. So it is not possible for the beginners to get achievement when comes to subjects which need painstaking experiment. Only with the experts' decision and acquirements, the successful results could be got.

If the beginners and experts could cooperate with each other, it is significant to achieve wanted results. As the beginners' imagination and agility tend to find new ways of resolution, their thoughts will not be qualified by the previous ones. The experts, however, are full with sophisticated skills in pragmatic activities, and they know more about the mobility of certain field. Thus it is experts' experience and knowledge which can compensate the beginners' ignorance of the history or the whole situation of current research. The process of discovery of Kepler’s law is a good convincing example. After overOver ten years of he’s teacher’s observation to the movement of celestial bodies and experienced summarization of data, he concluded Kepler’s law from his unique and exceeded scope. Given the cooperation of experts and beginners, any fields of inquiry could reach an undeterminable outcome.

To sum up, beginners are the growing strength to a field, and their construction will bring innovative discoveries to resolve some difficult problems which frustrate experts for many years. On the other hand, experts' leading role of certain subjects should not be ignored, which would retrench time in doing repeating works by beginners. Further, it is important for experts and beginners to cooperate and exert their advantages to improve the science development
b1的例子缺乏根据,其他部分论证的可以!
不错,加油

laofoUID: 165673

------题目------
In any field of inquiry, the beginner is more likely than the expert to make important discoveries.
------正文------
Is the beginner of any research field more likely than the expert to make important discoveries as the author asserted? As far as I am concerned, it should not be so cursory to make the conclusion that beginners are much easier to make great feats to human beings. In fact, the condition should be considered case by case. The common situation is that beginners are prone to establish new ideas in theoretical fields, while in some experimental related areas; it's harder for beginners to find new things than experts.

In some theoretical fields, beginners’ creative thinking and cognition are beneficial for them to make important discoveries. As the beginners are less limited by the existent knowledge or theoretical structure, their characteristics of innovation help them outweigh the thought of experts. Furthermore, they are always full of energy and vigor, which happens to meet the theoretical discoveries needs. Einstein, the famous physicist, concluded the theory of relativity at his 25 years old; Bohr, the founder of quantum mechanics, put forward the new doctrine of atomic orbit when he was 27; and Dirac, who established relativistic quantum mechanics, succeeded in his 27. They were so young that they did not set foot in these theoretical fields for a long time, but they all made big contributions which benefits the whole people in the world. So, in SUCH fields, beginners can establish important discoveries than experts.【例子不错！！】

However, it is not always the case in every research area, which needs experience rather than the spark of mind, such as experimental science and technological fields. For example, the Madame Curie and Peter Curie spent four years in laboratory trying to find out the radioactive element and at last extracted only 0.12 gram of useful ingredient from several tons of pitch. Without thousands of failure and accumulated experience, the success could not come to them. Another case is point is Kinsey whose report firstly brought forward distinguished theory to American gender problem (性学问题,不知道该怎么说). His success was attributed to analyzing phenomena and statistical【adj??】 a large amount of data【这句话，Read起来拗口】, which could not be finished by a greed hand. So it is not possible for the beginners to get achievement when comes to subjects which need painstaking experiment. Only with the experts' decision and acquirements, the successful results could be got.【你第二个例子好像不是建立在experimental science and technological fields，也许是我错了？】

If the beginners and experts could cooperate with each other, it is significant to achieve wanted【anticipative 或者干脆不加修饰语】 results. As the beginners' imagination and agility tend to find new ways of resolution【】, their thoughts will not be qualified by the previous ones. The experts, however, are full with sophisticated skills in pragmatic activities, and they know more about the mobility of certain field. Thus it is experts' experience and knowledge which can compensate the beginners' ignorance of the history or the whole situation of current research. The process of discovery of Kepler’s law is a good example. After over ten years of he’s【his,另外这个是指代谁呀，你应该让这个人出现一次阿。。。】teacher’s observation to the movement of celestial bodies and experienced summarization of data, he【】 concluded Kepler’s law from his unique and exceeded scope. Given the cooperation of experts and beginners, any fields of inquiry could reach an undeterminable outcome.

To sum up, beginners are the growing strength to a field, and their construction will bring innovative discoveries to resolve some difficult problems which frustrate experts for many years. On the other hand, experts' leading role of certain subjects should not be ignored, which would retrench time in doing repeating works by beginners. Further, it is important for experts and beginners to cooperate and exert their advantages to improve the science development.
咳，写得不错，
我只找到这么几个，
羡慕ing

Henrry_FFUID: 165187

个人认为因为题目是说In any field of inquiry，强调了any，所以在首段批其说法不好好像不太恰当，直接说case by case就可以了，另外同意二楼的说法，年轻不一定就是biginner，不要为堆例子而堆。结构，语言都不错！加油！：）

pringleUID: 195431

第二段末句改为：...succeeded in his 27. They were so young that they couldnot do a long time research in these fields, and they do be beginners, but they all made big contributions from which the whole world benefits. So, in SUCH fields, beginners can establish important discoveries than experts.{就是把为什么这些领域的年轻人可以视为beginner的原因简单说了一下}。 这是否本例就说的通了呢？

bcomerUID: 182621

感觉pringle的语言挺好的，希望你多发作文，让我学习学习：）

个人觉得你对年轻和BEGINNER的关系就不用说明了，说也说不明白的，因为其中没什么必然联系，老实说，你举的例子中多半不是BEGINNER：）

Furthermore, they are always full of energy and vigor精力旺盛有朝气：）简直就是在说年轻人的特点

抽象代数的创建者在20岁前就建立了这门新的理论，但他也不能算BEGINNER，他不足10岁就研究到大致高等数学的深度了

觉得你的B1 和 B2 简直就是 天才VS勤奋的智者：）

不过全文感觉很好:)

pringleUID: 195431

关于第二段实在是没法举到例子了。 我是这么理解的：在理论研究领域中，beginner不一定岁数小，但岁数小的人一般是beginner。 不过大家看来：这些岁数小的人，同时又是天才。是天才让其成功，而不是beginner的角色让其成功。
别人都是怎么举例子的？

bcomerUID: 182621

一个建议：

你可以改一下文章的结构：）
A 基础学科------象数学，物理……日趋成熟，BEGINNER很少有所发现，奋斗在前沿的多为EXPERT，他们往往能做出大的DISCOVER，即使BEGINNER有DISCOVER也是少数，不能说MORE LIKELY

B一些误区，很多人会举出一些年轻人，他们在新兴的领域有所建树，但你可以说他们其实不是BEGIINER，ALTHOUGH 年轻，要想有DISCOVER一般还是要有很好的学科基础的

C也许有些人还会举出一些真的是BEGINNER却做出DISCOVER的人
（我是举不出来：），在你看来也许爱因斯坦是），实际上，你可以说他们更多的是因为他们超常的智商，而不是BEGINNER的立场
：） 即便还有那么两个特例，智商不突出又是BEGINNER阶段做出成就的，我想那也绝不是MORE LIKELY

个人意见：）

pringleUID: 195431

感觉写issue文章，要从题设提出自己的观点。这个观点可以是有错的，但论证充分，应该也可以。关键是论证是否能支持论点，例子能否支持论证过程。 beginner和年轻人的关系，确实有问题。
我想改的方法是：还用这些例子，但不去说这些人的年轻和天才，只说其从事研究时间短（爱因斯坦当时正读博士学位），就有了发现，来支持我的分论点“beginner在研究领域发现更快，因为他们没有禁锢，好奇心强（这个分论点和年轻没关系）”。

bcomerUID: 182621

最初由 pringle 发布
[B]感觉写issue文章，要从题设提出自己的观点。这个观点可以是有错的，但论证充分，应该也可以。关键是论证是否能支持论点，例子能否支持论证过程。 beginner和年轻人的关系，..

以下省略...... [/B]

：）也好
HELP YOU DING YI XIA

mondiaUID: 193825

刚写了这片，
一会儿来借鉴一下，
还没吃饭．．