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No.1 Argument145 打鼾与肥胖,一只狗
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A new study collected data that shows that people who snore are more likely to gain weight than are people who do not snore. It is well known that many people who snore also stop breathing frequently during the night for a few seconds, a condition called sleep apnea. The interruption of breathing wakes the person¡ªoften so briefly that the waking goes unnoticed¡ªand can leave the person too tired during the day to exercise. Anyone who snores, therefore, should try to eat less than the average person and to exercise more.
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For intrinsic flaws existence in the speaker’s analysis, the conclusion that people who snores should do more exercises and eat less than the average level becomes not so convictive as he or she respected.

The speaker’s advice seems to be based on the following logical chain: snore causes sleep apnea, the later makes one feel tired during the daytime, which lessen the snorer’s exercises; if the person like eating in every day life, then together with the more possibility the study shows of gaining weight, insufficient exercises will lead to a fat figure.

Let us find out the links fracted there. Logically, the fracture of the last link joint the conclusion, if it exists, will be a vital one. On one side, lack of deeply explanation from research of the relationship hidden between snore and more possibility of growing fat, the suggestion for a tired snorer to do more exercises is not unquestionable. Being more tired after some sports, the person may have a even worse sleep at night, whose symptom is quite likely to become serious, which will lead the snorer to a vicious circle according to the author’s logical train, at last he or she may grow even fat. On the other side, no proof is provided that less food will impede the progress of gaining weight. As we know, plenty of some typical food is always good for fully energy, and maybe some even helps relieving the symptom.

Moreover, the study the author refers to needs to be questioned. For examples, we may ask: can the result be repeated in other studies;
is the research made with enough survey and enough time. In fact,
the more doubtfulness comes from the author’s understanding of the data the study collected. Possibly the speaker find out the result set in the paragraph in his own way, nevertheless, we may reach another one in quite different point of view: fat people are more likely to snore than are people who are thinner, if the study only shows a list of the weight of people in research and their answers for being a snorer or not. From our common knowledge, the later result seems more acceptable; however, the last answer and explanation should come from more deeply study, which the author has likely overlooked.

As shows above, everyone of the situation will break down the vital link to the speaker’s conclusion. Admittedly, the advice is brought out for our speaker’s concern for snorer’s healthy, he or she still needs to get more relative information to strengthen his every link in the chain: such as more research result and explanation about the topic mentioned above and better treatment for snore. Then the suggestion will be more constructive.
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发表于 2005-3-20 13:00:18 |只看该作者
我来吻这个。。
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正襟危坐ing..

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No.1 Argument145 打鼾与肥胖,一只狗
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A new study collected data that shows that people who snore are more likely to gain weight than are people who do not snore. It is well known that many people who snore also stop breathing frequently during the night for a few seconds, a condition called sleep apnea. The interruption of breathing wakes the person¡ªoften so briefly that the waking goes unnoticed¡ªand can leave the person too tired during the day to exercise. Anyone who snores, therefore, should try to eat less than the average person and to exercise more.
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For intrinsic flaws existence(这个词的词性不对吧?) in the speaker’s analysis, the conclusion that people who snores should do more exercises and eat less than the average level becomes not so convictive(unconvincing) as he or she respected.

The speaker’s advice seems to be based on the following logical(我觉得这句话最好不要用logical这个词) chain: snore causes sleep apnea, the later makes one feel tired during the daytime, which lessen the snorer’s exercises; if the person like eating in every day life, then together with the more possibility the study shows of gaining weight, insufficient exercises will lead to a fat figure.

Let us find out the links fracted there. Logically, the fracture of the last link joint the conclusion, if it exists, will be a vital one. On one side, lack of deeply(deep) explanation from research of the relationship hidden between snore and more possibility of growing fat, the suggestion for a tired snorer to do more exercises is not unquestionable. Being more tired after some sports, the person may have a even worse sleep at night, whose symptom is quite likely to become serious, which will lead the snorer to a vicious circle according to the author’s logical train, at last he or she may grow even fat. On the other side, no proof is provided that less food will impede the progress of gaining weight. As we know, plenty of some typical food is always good for fully energy, and maybe some even helps relieving the symptom.

Moreover, the study the author refers to needs to be questioned. For examples, we may ask: can the result be repeated in other studies;
is the research made with enough survey and enough time. In fact,
the more doubtfulness comes from the author’s understanding of the data the study collected. Possibly the speaker find out the result set in the paragraph in his own way, nevertheless, we may reach another one in quite different point of view: fat people are more likely to snore than are people who are thinner, if the study only shows a list of the weight of people in research and their answers for being a snorer or not. From our common knowledge, the later result seems more acceptable; however, the last answer and explanation should come from more deeply study, which the author has likely overlooked.

As shows above, everyone of the situation will break down the vital link to the speaker’s conclusion. Admittedly, the advice is brought out for our speaker’s concern for snorer’s healthy, he or she still needs to get more relative information to strengthen his every link in the chain: such as more research result and explanation about the topic mentioned above and better treatment for snore. Then the suggestion will be more constructive.
(你能写个中文的简易提纲给我吗?我对有些内容不太理解)

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No.1 Argument145 打鼾与肥胖,一只狗
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A new study collected data that shows that people who snore are more likely to gain weight than are people who do not snore. It is well known that many people who snore also stop breathing frequently during the night for a few seconds, a condition called sleep apnea. The interruption of breathing wakes the person¡ªoften so briefly that the waking goes unnoticed¡ªand can leave the person too tired during the day to exercise. Anyone who snores, therefore, should try to eat less than the average person and to exercise more.
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For intrinsic flaws existence in the speaker’s analysis, the conclusion that people who snores should do more exercises and eat less than the average level becomes not so convictive as he or she respected. 【简练,不错,把flaws大概说一下就更好了】

The speaker’s advice seems to be based on the following logical chain: snore causes sleep apnea, the later 【latter】makes one feel tired during the daytime, which lessen the snorer’s exercises; if the person like eating in every day life, then together with the more possibility the study shows of gaining weight, insufficient exercises will lead to a fat figure. 【把逻辑关系列出来了,很好的想法】

Let us find out the links fracted there. Logically, the fracture of the last link joint the conclusion, if it exists, will be a vital one. On one side, lack of deeply explanation from research of the relationship hidden between snore and more possibility of growing fat, the suggestion for a tired snorer to do more exercises is not unquestionable. Being more tired after some sports, the person may have a even worse sleep at night, whose symptom is quite likely to become serious, which will lead the snorer to a vicious circle according to the author’s logical train, at last he or she may grow even fat. On the other side, no proof is provided that less food will impede the progress of gaining weight. As we know, plenty of some typical food is always good for fully energy, and maybe some even helps relieving the symptom. 【反驳的不错,不过,把结论先反驳了感觉有点不太好】

Moreover, the study the author refers to needs to be questioned. For examples, we may ask: can the result be repeated in other studies;
is the research made with enough survey and enough time. In fact,
the more doubtfulness comes from the author’s understanding of the data the study collected. 【?】 Possibly the speaker find out the result set in the paragraph in his own way, nevertheless, we may reach another one in quite different point of view: fat people are more likely to snore than are people who are thinner, if the study only shows a list of the weight of people in research and their answers for being a snorer or not. From our common knowledge, the later【latter】 result seems more acceptable; however, the last answer and explanation should come from more deeply study, which the author has likely overlooked. 【显然,先反驳了结论再反驳study这个论据就显得不合适了,这个段落也显得脱节了】

As shows above, everyone of the situation will break down the vital link to the speaker’s conclusion. Admittedly, the advice is brought out for our speaker’s concern for snorer’s healthy, he or she still needs to get more relative information to strengthen his every link in the chain: such as more research result and explanation about the topic mentioned above and better treatment for snore. Then the suggestion will be more constructive.
【还有几个点可以反驳,apnea是否影响睡眠,他们白天是否不运动了,白天是否觉得累,都是没有足够根据的。而且,论述的逻辑顺序不好。结论应该放在后面反驳。不过,先把题目的逻辑关系列出来是很好的想法,对于那些觉得不restate就不放心的同学可以学习这样的方法。加油!】
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发表于 2005-3-20 13:59:17 |只看该作者
好好研究一下

提纲大概是:

第二段把作者的逻辑连写出来

然后主要针对连接结论的最后一环给以猛烈攻击

最后一环有两部分:
一是研究结果;
二是饮食锻炼影响体重的前提;

第三段在接受研究结果的情况下,
批驳结论,即饮食锻炼的有效性;

第四段指出研究的可疑性,
事实上,更可质疑的是作者对数据的理解:
很可能研究只给出了一些数据,未给结论,
而作者把[U]胖的人容易打鼾[/U] "读成"了[U]打鼾的人容易胖[/U] ,
比如研究只给了:100个人,80个胖,20个瘦,80个打鼾,20个不打;
事实上,两种结论都可能读出来

最后是建议...

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For intrinsic flaws existing in the speaker's analysis, the conclusion that people who snores should do more exercises and eat less than the average level becomes not so convictive as he or she respected.

The speaker's advice seems to be based on the following logical chain: snore causes sleep apnea, the latter makes one feel tired during the daytime, which lessen the snorer's exercises; if the person like eating in every day life, then together with the more possibility the study shows of gaining weight, insufficient exercises will lead to a fat figure.

Let us find out the links fracted there,which lessen the tightness of the chain.Fundamentally, the study the author refers to needs to be questioned. For examples, we may ask: can the result be repeated in other studies; is the research made with enough survey and enough time. In fact, the more doubtfulness comes from the author's understanding of the data the study collected, which may be the Achilles' ankle really and truly. Possibly the speaker find out the result set in the paragraph in his own way, nevertheless, we may reach another one in quite different point of view: fat people are more likely to snore than are people who are thinner, if the study only shows a list of the weight of people in research and their answers for being a snorer or not. From our common knowledge, the latter result seems more acceptable; however, the last answer and explanation should come from more deeply study, which the author has likely overlooked.

Moreover, In logic, the fracture of the last link joint the conclusion, if it exists, will be a vital one. In the author's words we find that: on one side, lack of deeply explanation from research of the relationship hidden between snore and more possibility of growing fat, the suggestion for a tired snorer to do more exercises is not unquestionable. Being more tired after some sports, the person may have a even worse sleep at night, whose symptom is quite likely to become serious, which will lead the snorer to a vicious circle according to the author's logical train, at last he or she may grow even fat;on the other side, no proof is provided that less food will impede the progress of gaining weight. As we know, plenty of some typical food is always good for fully energy, and maybe some even helps relieving the symptom. The "treatment" the author suggestes needs more consent from our medical study.


As shows above, everyone of the situation will break down the vital link to the speaker's conclusion. Admittedly, the advice is brought out for our speaker's concern for snorer's healthy, he or she still needs to get more relative information to strengthen his every link in the chain: such as more research result and explanation about the topic mentioned above and better treatment for snore. Then the suggestion will be more constructive.

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