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foreveraUID: 202035

138. "Only through mistakes can there be discovery or progress."


1．        承认通过错误人们的确能获得很大的帮助从而成功。
2．        但是错误不是取得成功的唯一渠道。还有其他的方法可以成功。
（1）        个人的天才
（2）        合作的力量


Are mistakes the only access to obtain discovery or progress? Facing this complex issue, after all, any extreme response to the case-by-case issue seems to be improper. Fundamentally, I acknowledge the significant assistance of mistakes in the way of pursuing discovery and progress. Yet, other methods, which are also able to lead people to success, can not be neglected.

To begin with, mistakes endow people with experience of dealing with similar events, as men keep on committing mistakes all through whole process of pursuing progress. Basically, from the mistakes men are experiencing a process of from simulation to independent analyzing and generating. After committing a mistake, people would refer to the successful examples for the reasons. Then, people would experience the first step of directly copying the others’ success. After knowing the approximate key of the mistake, people are able to deal with the event independently and gradually generate their own ways. Further, pointing out and modifying the mistakes of authorization can greatly promote the development of both societies and scientific researches. Taking Galileo and Aristotle for example, by dropping two balls of different weight simultaneously from the Leaning Tower, Galileo pointed out Aristotle’s mistake in physics that speed of fall is proportional to weight. This discovery corrected the long established mistake in physics and resulted in future achievements in physics, including the Newton’s three laws of motion. In conclusion, mistakes lead people to the right way to the target of social and scientific achievement.

While, seeking experience from mistakes is not the only choice for men to succeed. Some other access leading to discovery and progress also play vital role in promoting the scientific and social development.

In the first place, individual intelligence is a most important way to obtain progress and discovery, especial in the realm of scientific researches and in the nascent era of the very researches. Consider, for instance, Newton’s law of gravity. Seeing the same fall of apples, nobody, except for Newton, was carefully enough to pay attention to the most common event, and also nobody, except for Newton, was intelligent enough to explore the reason for the fall. It is quite reasonable to cite that the foundation of gravity law is most contributed by Newton’s individual intelligence. Under this circumstance, personal power of the people can not be neglected and denied to make progress and discovery.

What’s more, the power of team work to gain progress is drawing an increasing attention of our contemporaneous people. As the advanced development of the subjects and an increasing complexity of most fields, individual’s intelligence and knowledge is limited to only a certain part of the event, and then not as efficient to deal with the whole thing as in the beginning period of the subjects. Therefore, to reach the target calls for cooperation of a group. Further, in the working team, each member can get inspired by others’ merits. In other words, members in the team are supplemented by each other. Accordingly, team work is far more efficient than individual work. And naturally, team work turns out to be the most fashioned and efficacious method to advance the society and the world.

To sum up, in the case-by-case issue, one should emphasize the significance of seeking experience from mistakes, whereas, one should not ignore the function of individual intelligence and team work. Moreover, the synergy of the three aspects is the most efficient and practicable way to make progress and discovery.

popsywinterUID: 2120302

Are mistakes the only access to obtain discovery or progress? Facing this complex issue, after all, any extreme response to the case-by-case issue seems to be improper. Fundamentally, I acknowledge the significant assistance of mistakes in the way Processof pursuing discovery and progress. Yet, other methods, which are also able to lead people to success, can not be neglected.

To begin with, mistakes endow people with experience of dealing with similar events, as men keep on committing mistakes all through whole process of pursuing progress.这句不太通哎感觉 Basically, from the mistakes men are experiencing a process of from simulation to independent analyzing and generating. After committing a mistake, people would refer to the successful examples for the reasons. Then, people would experience the first step of directly copying the others’ success. After knowing the approximate key of the mistake, people are able to deal with the event independently and gradually generate their own ways. Further, pointing out and modifying the mistakes of authorization can greatly promote the development of both societies and scientific researches. 这段不错，理由句式都挺整齐Taking Galileo and Aristotle for example, by dropping two balls of different weight simultaneously from the Leaning Tower, Galileo pointed out Aristotle’s mistake in physics that speed of fall is proportional to weight. This discovery corrected the long established mistake in physics and resulted in future achievements in physics, including the Newton’s three laws of motion. In conclusion, mistakes lead people to the right way to the target of social and scientific achievement.我觉得这个例子用在这里不是很好，文章论证的是一个人通过犯错误最后得到正确的理论，不是挑战权威纠正别人的错误

While, seeking experience from mistakes is not the only choice for men to succeed. Some other access leading to discovery and progress also play vital role in promoting the scientific and social development.

In the first place, individual intelligence is a most important way to obtain progress and discovery, especial in the realm of scientific researches and in the nascent era of the very researches. Consider, for instance, Newton’s law of gravity. Seeing the same fall of apples, nobody, except for Newton, was carefully enough to pay attention to the most common event, and also nobody, except for Newton, was intelligent enough to explore the reason for the fall. It is quite reasonable to cite that the foundation of gravity law is most contributed by Newton’s individual intelligence. Under this circumstance, personal power of the people can not be neglected and denied to make progress and discovery.

What’s more, the power of team workteamwork to gain progress is drawing an increasing attention of our contemporaneous people. As the advanced development of the subjects and an increasing complexity of most fields, individual’s intelligence and knowledge is limited to only a certain part of the event, and then not as efficient to deal with the whole thing as in the beginning period of the subjects. Therefore, to reach the target calls for cooperation of a group. Further, in the working team, each member can get inspired by others’ merits. In other words, members in the team are supplemented by each other. Accordingly, team work is far more efficient than individual work. And naturally, team work turns out to be the most fashioned and efficacious method to advance the society and the world.

To sum up, in the case-by-case issue, one should emphasize the significance of seeking experience from mistakes, whereas, one should not ignore the function of individual intelligence and team work. Moreover, the synergy of the three aspects is the most efficient and practicable way to make progress and discovery.
总体来说语言和句式方面不错，但论据有待加强

popsywinterUID: 2120302

Are mistakes the only access to obtain discovery or progress? Facing this complex issue, after all, any extreme response to the case-by-case issue seems to be improper. Fundamentally, I acknowledge the significant assistance这个词不好，错误是取得成功的必近只路，不是辅助 of mistakes in the way Processof pursuing discovery and progress.truth and knowledge Yet, other methods, which are also able to lead people to success, can not be neglected.

怎么改了的显示不上去呢？

foreveraUID: 202035

题目中没有对mistake做限制啊。。。所以什么样的错误都应该算到其中。。。权威的错误也是错误啊。。。而且纠正权威的错误对整个社会都有好处。。。而不是只限制于某一个人。。。而这个例子也是用来证明这一点的。。。

[ Last edited by forevera on 2005-8-29 at 13:05 ]

batterflyUID: 196681

1．        承认通过错误人们的确能获得很大的帮助从而成功。
2．        但是错误不是取得成功的唯一渠道。还有其他的方法可以成功。
（1）        个人的天才
（2）        合作的力量
个人觉得这个提纲的思路不太好，第一点和第二点没有转折关系吧。因为犯错和第二段所说的其他通往成功的方法不是平行的。是不是可以换一种说法，1 承认人们要创新和进步必定是要通过错误的；2 但是光有犯错的准备和勇气是不够的，犯错只是一个必要非充分条件，要成功还要other factors involved。Forevera是不是过于关注题目中的only了啊，我看了老外280的翻译是失败是成功之母，或者我理解的是要有发展和突破必要会经历失败，这个不影响成功还需要其他条件啊！不管怎么说，先看正文！

Are mistakes the only access to obtain discovery or progress? Facing this complex issue, after all, any extreme response to the case-by-case issue seems to be improper. Fundamentally, I acknowledge the significant assistance of mistakes in the way of pursuing discovery and progress. Yet, other methods, which are also able to lead people to success, can not be neglected.

To begin with, mistakes endow people with experience of dealing with similar events（当人在整个过程中一直犯错的时候，错误使人有处理相同事情的经验，不知道我理解的对不对，而后面说的是错误使人从最开始的模仿到独自分析，觉得有问题，例子的意思是最开始犯了错误人们会参照成功的例子找原因，然后在知道“相近的“错误以后，人们能够独自处理问题。看看是不是这个意思，我中文也不大明白意思啊。首先看到论点我以为是自己不停的犯错以后就不会犯相同的错误，但是往下看到例子，却是说通过别人和自己相似的错误来解决自己的问题。啊，我已经有点糊涂了:confused:）, as men keep on committing mistakes all through whole process of pursuing progress. Basically, from the mistakes men are experiencing a process of （去掉of）from simulation to independent analyzing and generating. After committing a mistake, people would refer to the successful examples for the reasons. Then, people would experience the first step of directly copying the others’ success. After knowing the approximate key of the mistake, people are able to deal with the event independently and gradually generate their own ways.（以下的内容和本段提出的ts没有很大的关系，使否考虑独自成段？而且感觉有点跑题噢，Galileo指出Aristotle的错误只能说明不应该迷信权威，不能说明失败对成功的作用啊？？呵呵，这个应该重点是指一个人的失败对自己成功有帮助。即使可以勉强的说别人的失败对自己也有帮助，这个例子也不恰当阿！~） Further, pointing out and modifying the mistakes of authorization（authority吧） can greatly promote the development of both societies and scientific researches. Taking Galileo and Aristotle for example, by dropping two balls of different weight simultaneously from the Leaning Tower, Galileo pointed out Aristotle’s mistake in physics that speed of fall is proportional to weight. This discovery corrected the long established mistake in physics and resulted in future achievements in physics, including the Newton’s three laws of motion. In conclusion, mistakes lead people to the right way to the target of social and scientific achievement.

While, seeking experience from mistakes is not the only choice for men to succeed. Some other access leading to discovery and progress also play vital role in promoting the scientific and social development.

In the first place, individual intelligence is a most important way to obtain progress and discovery, especial(especially) in the realm of scientific researches and in the nascent era of the very researches. Consider, for instance, Newton’s law of gravity. Seeing the same fall of apples, nobody, except for（读着不太顺前面有nobody，是不是用nobody but好一些？） Newton, was carefully enough to pay attention to the most common event, and also nobody, except for Newton, was intelligent enough to explore the reason for the fall. It is quite reasonable to cite that the foundation of gravity law is most contributed by（这个词语用的不好，可以用is owed to，或者用主动的，Newton’s individual intelligence contribute a lot to …… ） Newton’s individual intelligence. Under this circumstance, personal power of the people can not be neglected and denied to make progress and discovery.

What’s more, the power of team work to gain（for making, 很少看见gain progress） progress is drawing an increasing attention of our contemporaneous people. As the advanced development of the subjects and an increasing complexity of most fields, individual’s intelligence and knowledge is (likely不要太绝对) limited to only a certain part of the event, and then not as efficient to deal with the whole thing as (加上 it was 比较结构注意比较的东西) in the beginning period of the subjects. Therefore, to reach the target calls for cooperation of a group. Further, in the working team, each member can get inspired （灵感inspiration） by others’ merits. In other words, members in the team are supplemented by (from) each other. Accordingly, team work is far more efficient than individual work. And naturally, team work turns out to be the most fashioned and efficacious method to advance the society and the world.

To sum up, in the case-by-case issue, one should emphasize the significance of seeking experience from mistakes, whereas, one should not ignore the function of individual intelligence and team work. Moreover, the synergy of the three aspects is the most efficient and practicable way to make progress and discovery.

看完了，还是觉得是我最开始提出的那个问题，就是有点偏题的嫌疑，欢迎讨论
注意一些小地方的语法问题
觉得质量不如issue10，不要放松啊！~加油:victory:

[ Last edited by batterfly on 2005-8-29 at 13:41 ]

foreveraUID: 202035

个人觉得这个提纲的思路不太好，第一点和第二点没有转折关系吧。因为犯错和第二段所说的其他通往成功的方法不是平行的。是不是可以换一种说法，1 承认人们要创新和进步必定是要通过错误的；2 但是光有犯错的准备和勇气是不够的，犯错只是一个必要非充分条件，要成功还要other factors involved。Forevera是不是过于关注题目中的only了啊我觉得写文章贵在断其一指。。而不是伤其十指。。。而且我一开头就说的是错误会lead人们到正确的道路上，而且我个人认为有发展和突破会有错误但不一定是失败。。。错误是失败的必要成分。。。但是错误小的多。。失败却很严重。。。，我看了老外280的翻译是失败是成功之母，或者我理解的是要有发展和突破必要会经历失败，这个不影响成功还需要其他条件啊！不管怎么说，先看正文！

Are mistakes the only access to obtain discovery or progress? Facing this complex issue, after all, any extreme response to the case-by-case issue seems to be improper. Fundamentally, I acknowledge the significant assistance of mistakes in the way of pursuing discovery and progress. Yet, other methods, which are also able to lead people to success, can not be neglected.

To begin with, mistakes endow people with experience of dealing with similar events（当人在整个过程中一直犯错的时候，错误使人有处理相同事情的经验，不知道我理解的对不对，而后面说的是错误使人从最开始的模仿到独自分析，觉得有问题，例子的意思是最开始犯了错误人们会参照成功的例子找原因，然后在知道“相近的“错误以后，人们能够独自处理问题。看看是不是这个意思，我中文也不大明白意思啊。首先看到论点我以为是自己不停的犯错以后就不会犯相同的错误，但是往下看到例子，却是说通过别人和自己相似的错误来解决自己的问题。不是说通过别人的错误。。。而是分析自己的错误并且在一开始借鉴别人成功的例子。。。渐渐的自己就不会犯着这样的错误了啊，我已经有点糊涂了）, as men keep on committing mistakes all through whole process of pursuing progress. Basically, from the mistakes men are experiencing a process of （去掉of）from simulation to independent analyzing and generating. After committing a mistake, people would refer to the successful examples for the reasons. Then, people would experience the first step of directly copying the others’ success. After knowing the approximate key of the mistake, people are able to deal with the event independently and gradually generate their own ways.（以下的内容和本段提出的ts没有很大的关系，使否考虑独自成段？而且感觉有点跑题噢，Galileo指出Aristotle的错误只能说明不应该迷信权威，不能说明失败对成功的作用啊？？呵呵，这个应该重点是指一个人的失败对自己成功有帮助。即使可以勉强的说别人的失败对自己也有帮助，这个例子也不恰当阿！~）这里的确应该分段。。。呵呵。。不过好象你对mistake的理解有点偏差吧。。。我的意思是权威也有mistake。。。修改他们的错误更能推动科学的发展。。 Further, pointing out and modifying the mistakes of authorization（authority吧） can greatly promote the development of both societies and scientific researches. Taking Galileo and Aristotle for example, by dropping two balls of different weight simultaneously from the Leaning Tower, Galileo pointed out Aristotle’s mistake in physics that speed of fall is proportional to weight. This discovery corrected the long established mistake in physics and resulted in future achievements in physics, including the Newton’s three laws of motion. In conclusion, mistakes lead people to the right way to the target of social and scientific achievement.

While, seeking experience from mistakes is not the only choice for men to succeed. Some other access leading to discovery and progress also play vital role in promoting the scientific and social development.

In the first place, individual intelligence is a most important way to obtain progress and discovery, especial(especially) in the realm of scientific researches and in the nascent era of the very researches. Consider, for instance, Newton’s law of gravity. Seeing the same fall of apples, nobody, except for（读着不太顺前面有nobody，是不是用nobody but好一些？） Newton, was carefully enough to pay attention to the most common event, and also nobody, except for Newton, was intelligent enough to explore the reason for the fall. It is quite reasonable to cite that the foundation of gravity law is most contributed by（这个词语用的不好，可以用is owed to，或者用主动的，Newton’s individual intelligence contribute a lot to …… ） Newton’s individual intelligence. Under this circumstance, personal power of the people can not be neglected and denied to make progress and discovery.

What’s more, the power of team work to gain（for making, 很少看见gain progress）在我的记忆中应该见过这样的表达方式，难道我记错了？ progress is drawing an increasing attention of our contemporaneous people. As the advanced development of the subjects and an increasing complexity of most fields, individual’s intelligence and knowledge is (likely不要太绝对)这里的绝对应该没有问题。。。而且应该就是绝对的。。。 limited to only a certain part of the event, and then not as efficient to deal with the whole thing as (加上 it was 比较结构注意比较的东西) in the beginning period of the subjects. Therefore, to reach the target calls for cooperation of a group. Further, in the working team, each member can get inspired （灵感inspiration） by others’ merits. In other words, members in the team are supplemented by (from) each other. Accordingly, team work is far more efficient than individual work. And naturally, team work turns out to be the most fashioned and efficacious method to advance the society and the world.

To sum up, in the case-by-case issue, one should emphasize the significance of seeking experience from mistakes, whereas, one should not ignore the function of individual intelligence and team work. Moreover, the synergy of the three aspects is the most efficient and practicable way to make progress and discovery.

看完了，还是觉得是我最开始提出的那个问题，就是有点偏题的嫌疑，欢迎讨论
注意一些小地方的语法问题
觉得质量不如issue10，不要放松啊！~加油

foreveraUID: 202035

个人感觉这篇比issue10成功一点。。。呵呵。。。10写的时候特痛苦。。。

batterflyUID: 196681

不好意思，没有开音响，才发现你的消息

个人觉得这个提纲的思路不太好，第一点和第二点没有转折关系吧。因为犯错和第二段所说的其他通往成功的方法不是平行的。是不是可以换一种说法，1 承认人们要创新和进步必定是要通过错误的；2 但是光有犯错的准备和勇气是不够的，犯错只是一个必要非充分条件，要成功还要other factors involved。Forevera是不是过于关注题目中的only了啊我觉得写文章贵在断其一指。。而不是伤其十指。。。（那你断的是那一指呢？？就算从全文字数看，你也是五五开的阿）而且我一开头就说的是错误会lead人们到正确的道路上，而且我个人认为有发展和突破会有错误但不一定是失败。。。错误是失败的必要成分。。。但是错误小的多。。失败却很严重。。。（错误也好，失败也罢，总归也是成功的必要条件而且也是和其他的条件一起促成成功，但是你得逻辑好像是每个都可以单独促成成功一样），我看了老外280的翻译是失败是成功之母，或者我理解的是要有发展和突破必要会经历失败，这个不影响成功还需要其他条件啊！不管怎么说，先看正文！

Are mistakes the only access to obtain discovery or progress? Facing this complex issue, after all, any extreme response to the case-by-case issue seems to be improper. Fundamentally, I acknowledge the significant assistance of mistakes in the way of pursuing discovery and progress. Yet, other methods, which are also able to lead people to success, can not be neglected.

To begin with, mistakes endow people with experience of dealing with similar events（当人在整个过程中一直犯错的时候，错误使人有处理相同事情的经验，不知道我理解的对不对，而后面说的是错误使人从最开始的模仿到独自分析，觉得有问题，例子的意思是最开始犯了错误人们会参照成功的例子找原因，然后在知道“相近的“错误以后，人们能够独自处理问题。看看是不是这个意思，我中文也不大明白意思啊。首先看到论点我以为是自己不停的犯错以后就不会犯相同的错误，但是往下看到例子，却是说通过别人和自己相似的错误来解决自己的问题。不是说通过别人的错误。。。而是分析自己的错误并且在一开始借鉴别人成功的例子。。。渐渐的自己就不会犯着这样的错误了（那就不要八借鉴别人的成功搅进来，直接说，不是更加明了啊）啊，我已经有点糊涂了）, as men keep on committing mistakes all through whole process of pursuing progress. Basically, from the mistakes men are experiencing a process of （去掉of）from simulation to independent analyzing and generating. After committing a mistake, people would refer to the successful examples for the reasons. Then, people would experience the first step of directly copying the others’ success. After knowing the approximate key of the mistake, people are able to deal with the event independently and gradually generate their own ways.（以下的内容和本段提出的ts没有很大的关系，使否考虑独自成段？而且感觉有点跑题噢，Galileo指出Aristotle的错误只能说明不应该迷信权威，不能说明失败对成功的作用啊？？呵呵，这个应该重点是指一个人的失败对自己成功有帮助。即使可以勉强的说别人的失败对自己也有帮助，这个例子也不恰当阿！~）这里的确应该分段。。。呵呵。。不过好象你对mistake的理解有点偏差吧。。。我的意思是权威也有mistake。。。修改他们的错误更能推动科学的发展。。是啊，权威也有mistake，但是你总的ts是承认通过错误人们的确能获得很大的帮助从而成功，那么这个例子能说明这个吗？？通过错误人们的确能获得很大的帮助从而成功，和通过指出别人的错误人们的确能获得很大的帮助从而成功可不是一个概念啊。， Further, pointing out and modifying the mistakes of authorization（authority吧） can greatly promote the development of both societies and scientific researches. Taking Galileo and Aristotle for example, by dropping two balls of different weight simultaneously from the Leaning Tower, Galileo pointed out Aristotle’s mistake in physics that speed of fall is proportional to weight. This discovery corrected the long established mistake in physics and resulted in future achievements in physics, including the Newton’s three laws of motion. In conclusion, mistakes lead people to the right way to the target of social and scientific achievement.

While, seeking experience from mistakes is not the only choice for men to succeed. Some other access leading to discovery and progress also play vital role in promoting the scientific and social development.

In the first place, individual intelligence is a most important way to obtain progress and discovery, especial(especially) in the realm of scientific researches and in the nascent era of the very researches. Consider, for instance, Newton’s law of gravity. Seeing the same fall of apples, nobody, except for（读着不太顺前面有nobody，是不是用nobody but好一些？） Newton, was carefully enough to pay attention to the most common event, and also nobody, except for Newton, was intelligent enough to explore the reason for the fall. It is quite reasonable to cite that the foundation of gravity law is most contributed by（这个词语用的不好，可以用is owed to，或者用主动的，Newton’s individual intelligence contribute a lot to …… ） Newton’s individual intelligence. Under this circumstance, personal power of the people can not be neglected and denied to make progress and discovery.

What’s more, the power of team work to gain（for making, 很少看见gain progress）在我的记忆中应该见过这样的表达方式，难道我记错了？ progress is drawing an increasing attention of our contemporaneous people. As the advanced development of the subjects and an increasing complexity of most fields, individual’s intelligence and knowledge is (likely不要太绝对)这里的绝对应该没有问题。。。而且应该就是绝对的。。。（为什么啊？？难道社会上没有通才吗）？？现在） limited to only a certain part of the event, and then not as efficient to deal with the whole thing as (加上 it was 比较结构注意比较的东西) in the beginning period of the subjects. Therefore, to reach the target calls for cooperation of a group. Further, in the working team, each member can get inspired （灵感inspiration） by others’ merits. In other words, members in the team are supplemented by (from) each other. Accordingly, team work is far more efficient than individual work. And naturally, team work turns out to be the most fashioned and efficacious method to advance the society and the world.

To sum up, in the case-by-case issue, one should emphasize the significance of seeking experience from mistakes, whereas, one should not ignore the function of individual intelligence and team work. Moreover, the synergy of the three aspects is the most efficient and practicable way to make progress and discovery

嘿嘿，感觉一股子火药味道呢
;P明天上午学校停电，估计不能及时给你回信息了

[ Last edited by batterfly on 2005-8-29 at 23:26 ]

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个人觉得这个提纲的思路不太好，第一点和第二点没有转折关系吧。因为犯错和第二段所说的其他通往成功的方法不是平行的。是不是可以换一种说法，1 承认人们要创新和进步必定是要通过错误的；2 但是光有犯错的准备和勇气是不够的，犯错只是一个必要非充分条件，要成功还要other factors involved。Forevera是不是过于关注题目中的only了啊我觉得写文章贵在断其一指。。而不是伤其十指。。。（那你断的是那一指呢？？就算从全文字数看，你也是五五开的阿）这一指已经断了。。。就是only。。。55开不代表没有断掉这一指啊。。。而且我一开头就说的是错误会lead人们到正确的道路上，而且我个人认为有发展和突破会有错误但不一定是失败。。。错误是失败的必要成分。。。但是错误小的多。。失败却很严重。。。（错误也好，失败也罢，总归也是成功的必要条件而且也是和其他的条件一起促成成功，但是你得逻辑好像是每个都可以单独促成成功一样）错误和其他方面一样既不是充分也不是必要。。。它们可以共同作用带来成功。。。也可以单独带来成功。。。因为的确有很多人灵光一闪就做出了很大的成就，我看了老外280的翻译是失败是成功之母，或者我理解的是要有发展和突破必要会经历失败，这个不影响成功还需要其他条件啊！不管怎么说，先看正文！

Are mistakes the only access to obtain discovery or progress? Facing this complex issue, after all, any extreme response to the case-by-case issue seems to be improper. Fundamentally, I acknowledge the significant assistance of mistakes in the way of pursuing discovery and progress. Yet, other methods, which are also able to lead people to success, can not be neglected.

To begin with, mistakes endow people with experience of dealing with similar events（当人在整个过程中一直犯错的时候，错误使人有处理相同事情的经验，不知道我理解的对不对，而后面说的是错误使人从最开始的模仿到独自分析，觉得有问题，例子的意思是最开始犯了错误人们会参照成功的例子找原因，然后在知道“相近的“错误以后，人们能够独自处理问题。看看是不是这个意思，我中文也不大明白意思啊。首先看到论点我以为是自己不停的犯错以后就不会犯相同的错误，但是往下看到例子，却是说通过别人和自己相似的错误来解决自己的问题。不是说通过别人的错误。。。而是分析自己的错误并且在一开始借鉴别人成功的例子。。。渐渐的自己就不会犯着这样的错误了（那就不要八借鉴别人的成功搅进来，直接说，不是更加明了啊）我前面提了是在whole process里面说的啊。。。这做为非常必要的一步漏掉会看起来不严密啊，我已经有点糊涂了）, as men keep on committing mistakes all through whole process of pursuing progress. Basically, from the mistakes men are experiencing a process of （去掉of）from simulation to independent analyzing and generating. After committing a mistake, people would refer to the successful examples for the reasons. Then, people would experience the first step of directly copying the others’ success. After knowing the approximate key of the mistake, people are able to deal with the event independently and gradually generate their own ways.（以下的内容和本段提出的ts没有很大的关系，使否考虑独自成段？而且感觉有点跑题噢，Galileo指出Aristotle的错误只能说明不应该迷信权威，不能说明失败对成功的作用啊？？呵呵，这个应该重点是指一个人的失败对自己成功有帮助。即使可以勉强的说别人的失败对自己也有帮助，这个例子也不恰当阿！~）这里的确应该分段。。。呵呵。。不过好象你对mistake的理解有点偏差吧。。。我的意思是权威也有mistake。。。修改他们的错误更能推动科学的发展。。是啊，权威也有mistake，但是你总的ts是承认通过错误人们的确能获得很大的帮助从而成功，那么这个例子能说明这个吗？？通过错误人们的确能获得很大的帮助从而成功，和通过指出别人的错误人们的确能获得很大的帮助从而成功可不是一个概念啊。，还是我上次说的。。。这里就是忘记分段了。。。失误~~~~~~~~！！！。。。这种失误都我都能犯。。。无语中。。。你分开段之后在看看呢？ Further, pointing out and modifying the mistakes of authorization（authority吧） can greatly promote the development of both societies and scientific researches. Taking Galileo and Aristotle for example, by dropping two balls of different weight simultaneously from the Leaning Tower, Galileo pointed out Aristotle’s mistake in physics that speed of fall is proportional to weight. This discovery corrected the long established mistake in physics and resulted in future achievements in physics, including the Newton’s three laws of motion. In conclusion, mistakes lead people to the right way to the target of social and scientific achievement.

While, seeking experience from mistakes is not the only choice for men to succeed. Some other access leading to discovery and progress also play vital role in promoting the scientific and social development.

In the first place, individual intelligence is a most important way to obtain progress and discovery, especial(especially) in the realm of scientific researches and in the nascent era of the very researches. Consider, for instance, Newton’s law of gravity. Seeing the same fall of apples, nobody, except for（读着不太顺前面有nobody，是不是用nobody but好一些？） Newton, was carefully enough to pay attention to the most common event, and also nobody, except for Newton, was intelligent enough to explore the reason for the fall. It is quite reasonable to cite that the foundation of gravity law is most contributed by（这个词语用的不好，可以用is owed to，或者用主动的，Newton’s individual intelligence contribute a lot to …… ） Newton’s individual intelligence. Under this circumstance, personal power of the people can not be neglected and denied to make progress and discovery.

What’s more, the power of team work to gain（for making, 很少看见gain progress）在我的记忆中应该见过这样的表达方式，难道我记错了？ progress is drawing an increasing attention of our contemporaneous people. As the advanced development of the subjects and an increasing complexity of most fields, individual’s intelligence and knowledge is (likely不要太绝对)这里的绝对应该没有问题。。。而且应该就是绝对的。。。（为什么啊？？难道社会上没有通才吗）？？现在）所谓的通才能通所有的学科吗？毕竟人们能够学到的东西是有限的。。 limited to only a certain part of the event, and then not as efficient to deal with the whole thing as (加上 it was 比较结构注意比较的东西) in the beginning period of the subjects. Therefore, to reach the target calls for cooperation of a group. Further, in the working team, each member can get inspired （灵感inspiration） by others’ merits. In other words, members in the team are supplemented by (from) each other. Accordingly, team work is far more efficient than individual work. And naturally, team work turns out to be the most fashioned and efficacious method to advance the society and the world.

To sum up, in the case-by-case issue, one should emphasize the significance of seeking experience from mistakes, whereas, one should not ignore the function of individual intelligence and team work. Moreover, the synergy of the three aspects is the most efficient and practicable way to make progress and discovery

这里不是什么情绪。。。而是我特不喜欢别人在看我文章之前看了提纲就下一个定论。。。带着另一种眼神看我的文章。。。这样总会给人一种很不爽的感觉。。。重点的东西不看。。。总是抱着很次要的东西不放。。。因为我看了很多别人对我文章中我认为最有逻辑最严密的地方的无端的指责。。就因为我和他的意见不一样。。。我承认我的脾气是不太好。。。上次我在这里怒了就是因为有些人就只看提纲。。。估计连全文都没看就直接在提纲后面哐哐哐说上几句。。。而且说的都是我认为最严密的地方。。。本来ETS又不是考的思维的全面性。。。否则那就成了哲学考试了。。。某些问题如果真争论下去。。。估计几天都完不了。。。这样就太无聊了。。。我看文章从来都是拿起来就看。。。提纲用来只是节省一点时间。。。在看完别人的总体文章内部逻辑之后在最后对别人的文章不论从思路上还是逻辑。语言上进行一个评价。。。

就象你说的你那样看是带着疑惑看。。。但能保证是一种完全平和的心态去看吗？用ARG的找错误的方法来看issue显然是不可行的。。。如果真的这样看。。。老外的范文逻辑错误肯定也满篇都是。。。本来AW考的就是把自己的观点自圆其说的本事。。。如果没能说服对方。。。只能说我的文内的逻辑之类的东西还有缺陷。。。而一上来就瞄准观点性的东西似乎不妥。。。

更何况对思路的修改并不能对I写作有很大的提高。。。如果考试的时候抽不到原题就几乎没什么用处。。。而对文章内部逻辑和结构的修改才真的能提高自己的水平。。。

就事论事。。。我觉得你改的还是很认真的。。。我也很感谢你给我指出的那些细节上的错误。。。不过个人觉得方法似乎有点偏差

[ Last edited by forevera on 2005-8-30 at 07:43 ]

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138. "Only through mistakes can there be discovery or progress."


1．        承认通过错误人们的确能获得很大的帮助从而成功。
2．        但是错误不是取得成功的唯一渠道。还有其他的方法可以成功。
（1）        个人的天才
（2）        合作的力量


Are mistakes the only access to obtain discovery or progress? Facing this complex issue, after all, any extreme response to the case-by-case issue seems to be improper. Fundamentally, I acknowledge the significant assistance这个词用得不当 of mistakes in the way of pursuing discovery and progress. Yet, other methods, which are also able to lead people to success, can not be neglected. 我觉得你的这个观点提得不错，主要是针对题目中的only提出的

To begin with, mistakes endow people with experience of dealing with similar events, as men keep on committing mistakes all through whole process of pursuing progress.如果我理解的没错的话，你想说的是在追求成功的过程中不断犯错，错误会给人们处理相似情况的经验，但是你写的意思不过明确，给人的感觉你两个mistake的含义不同，不直说得是否有理？。 Basically, from the mistakes men are experiencing a process of from simulation to independent analyzing and generating. After committing a mistake, people would refer to the successful examples for the reasons. Then, people would experience the first step of directly copying the others’ success. After knowing the approximate key of the mistake, people are able to deal with the event independently and gradually generate their own ways. Further, pointing out and modifying the mistakes of authorization can greatly promote the development of both societies and scientific researches. Taking Galileo and Aristotle for example, by dropping two balls of different weight simultaneously from the Leaning Tower, Galileo pointed out Aristotle’s mistake in physics that speed of fall is proportional to weight. This discovery corrected the long established mistake in physics and resulted in future achievements in physics, including the Newton’s three laws of motion. In conclusion, mistakes lead people to the right way to the target of social and scientific achievement.我觉得你的例子跟你上面的关于先模仿再找出自己的方法的叙述不能相呼应。不能很好support你的分析。

While, seeking experience from mistakes is not the only choice for men to succeed. Some other access leading to discovery and progress also play vital role in promoting the scientific and social development.

In the first place, individual intelligence is a most important way to obtain progress and discovery, especial in the realm of scientific researches and in the nascent era of the very researches. Consider, for instance, Newton’s law of gravity. Seeing the same fall of apples, nobody, except for Newton, was carefully enough to pay attention to the most common event, and also nobody, except for Newton, was intelligent enough to explore the reason for the fall. 我觉得你可以再加一句半句的说明他的聪明表现在何处？是设计了怎么样的试验还是怎样巧妙的论证。It is quite reasonable to cite that the foundation of gravity law is most contributed by Newton’s individual intelligence. Under this circumstance, personal power of the people can not be neglected and denied to make progress and discovery.

What’s more, the power of team work to gain progress is drawing an increasing attention of our contemporaneous people. As the advanced development of the subjects and an increasing complexity of most fields, individual’s intelligence and knowledge is limited to only a certain part of the event,这句话好像是在驳斥你自己前面说的，建议还是不要这么说，可是说个人的聪明不足以担当整个项目 and then not as efficient to deal with the whole thing as in the beginning period of the subjects. Therefore, to reach the target calls for cooperation of a group. Further, in the working team, each member can get inspired by others’ merits. In other words, members in the team are supplemented by each other. Accordingly, team work is far more efficient than individual work. And naturally, team work turns out to be the most fashioned and efficacious method to advance the society and the world.

To sum up, in the case-by-case issue, one should emphasize the significance of seeking experience from mistakes, whereas, one should not ignore the function of individual intelligence and team work. Moreover, the synergy of the three aspects is the most efficient and practicable way to make progress and discovery.

以上是我的一些观点，不知道你觉得呢？大家讨论看看;P

batterflyUID: 196681

呵呵，这样说就清楚多了啊
恩，当时看见你在我作文后面的留言 猜到和你上次生气的原因一样
不过就如你说的，是为了写好作文
你提出的问题，我会注意的
加油，大家！！