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TOPIC:ISSUE 175 - "It is always an individual who is the impetus for innovation; the details may be worked out by a team, but true innovation results from the enterprise and unique perception of an individual."
限时结尾未完成,这是修改后的。  DATE:2006-2-7

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观点:同意论者的结论,但不完全解释,个人和团队都重要。
1、        enterprise的重要性。
2、        unique perception的重要性。
3、        团队同样不可少。


From the past to the present, there have been emerging countless original devices, methods and ideas, denoted as innovation. I totally agree with the speaker's conclusion that an individual often serves as the impetus for the innovation, however, in my point of view, both the enterprise and unique perception of an individual and the aggregated power of a team account for the true innovation.

Undoubtedly, the individual enterprise, to a certain degree, serves as the premise of the true innovation. What innovation can be considered as the true one? From the perspective of both the past and the present, the true innovation frequently breaks through the contemporary conception and values, and even offends the prevailing standards. Meanwhile, the enterprise means owning the spirit to undertake new venture, and having the courage to break through the prevailing. An apt example can involve Einstein's theory of relativity. At that era, Newton's laws of classic mechanics dominated the field of physics. It was Einstein who challenged Newton's authority in all cases, addressing his own notion of time and space. In the realm of arts, myriads of similar cases can also illustrate this point, like Von Gogh's paintings, Beethoven' music and the like, all of which were not accepted by the contemporaries, but now win the world's honor. Without this enterprise, human race would gain the same achievement hundreds of years latter or even never.

What is more, besides the enterprise, unique perception also plays a vital role for the true innovation. Those celebrities often have extraordinary wisdom, intelligence and creativity, which often run beyond those of the populace. Frequently, such individual, serving as the leader of a team, digs into the issues more thoroughly than other members of the team and thereby have a more profound understanding of the issues. This unique perception is like the beacon, which points out the proper direction in the process. For instance, Deng Xiaoping, once the chairperson of China, revolutionarily put the "Reform and Opening up" policy into force from later 1970s, which makes the economy of China gain a surprise rapid rate of increase in recent decades. Also, while not adopting communism, Deng created the "One nation, Two systems" policy, which ensures the prosperity of both Hong Kang and Macao after ending the status of colonies. Deng’s thoughts and ideas may be inconceivable in most people’s mind at that time and even now.

However, the aggregated power of the team as a whole is also worthy of focusing on and should not be underestimated. While mentioning some innovation in history, people often connect them to certain individuals. The roles of these individuals have been discussed above and are of cause worthy of respect, but should not be overestimated in that the aggregated power of the team is heavier than the leader’s individually. Without the aggregated power of the team, the leader's idea could not be realized. While talking the War of Independence in American history, people will inevitably refer to Lincoln, the 16th president of America. Although Lincoln served as the central figure of that movement, but, were it not for the actions of other people, especially the slaves themselves, the slavery in America would not had been eliminated so rapidly. In a word, no matter how revolutionary the original idea of a certain individual is, unless the total team strive together, this idea could not change into the true innovation.

In the final analysis, both enterprise and unique perception of a certain individual are significant for the true innovation. It is true that an individual impel the innovation, yet, it does not follow that the true innovation can utterly be resulted from the quantity of an individual. Factually, the aggregated power of the team is an indispensable force of the progress.

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From the past to the present, there have been emerging countless original devices, methods and ideas, denoted as innovation. I totally agree with the speaker's conclusion that an individual often serves as the impetus for the innovation, however, in my point of view, both the enterprise and unique perception of an individual and the aggregated power of a team account for the true innovation.

Undoubtedly, the individual enterprise, to a certain degree, serves as the premise of the true innovation.What innovation can be considered as the true one? From the perspective of both the past and the present, the true innovation frequently breaks through the contemporary conception and values, and even offends the prevailing standards. 这里感觉从阐述enterprise转到探讨什么是真正的创新了。感觉可以把这些全变成innovation的定语从句 Meanwhile, the enterprise means owning the spirit to undertake new venture, and having the courage to break through the prevailing. An apt example can involve Einstein's theory of relativity. At that era, Newton's laws of classic mechanics dominated the field of physics. It was Einstein who challenged Newton's authority in all cases, addressing his own notion of time and space. In the realm of arts, myriads of similar cases can also illustrate this point, like Von Gogh's paintings, Beethoven' music and the like, all of which were not accepted by the contemporaries, but now win the world's honor. Without this enterprise, human race would gain the same achievement hundreds of years latter or even never. 这一点我的文章里漏掉了

What is more, besides the enterprise, unique perception also plays a vital role for the true innovation. Those celebrities often have extraordinary wisdom, intelligence and creativity, which often run beyond those of the populace.貌似与unique perception没有什么关系 Frequently, such individual, serving as the leader of a team, digs into the issues more thoroughly than other members of the team and thereby have a more profound understanding of the issues. This unique perception is like the beacon, which points out the proper direction in the process progress? . For instance, Deng Xiaoping, once the chairperson of China, revolutionarily put the "Reform and Opening up" policy into force from later 1970s, which makes the economy of China gain a surprise rapid rate of increase in recent decades. Also, while not adopting communism, Deng created the "One nation, Two systems" policy, which ensures the prosperity of both Hong Kang and Macao after ending the status of colonies. Deng’s thoughts and ideas may be inconceivable in most people’s mind at that time and even now.

However, the aggregated power of the team as a whole is also worthy of focusing on and should not be underestimated. While mentioning some innovation in history, people often connect them to certain individuals. The roles of these individuals have been discussed above and are of cause worthy of respect, but should not be overestimated in that the aggregated power of the team is heavier than the leader’s individually. Without the aggregated power of the team, the leader's idea could not be realized. While talking the War of Independence in American history, people will inevitably refer to Lincoln, the 16th president of America. Although Lincoln served as the central figure of that movement, but, were it not for the actions of other people, especially the slaves themselves, the slavery in America would not had been eliminated so rapidly. In a word, no matter how revolutionary the original idea of a certain individual is, unless the total team, this idea could not change into the true innovation. 废除奴隶制不是林肯首先提出来的

In the final analysis, both enterprise and unique perception of a certain individual are significant for the true innovation. It is true that an individual impel the innovation, yet, it does not follow that the true innovation can utterly be resulted from the quality of an individual. Factually, the aggregated power of the team is an indispensable force of the progress.

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发表于 2006-2-7 17:43:34 |只看该作者
What innovation can be considered as the true one? From the perspective of both the past and the present, the true innovation frequently breaks through the contemporary conception and values, and even offends the prevailing standards. 这里感觉从阐述enterprise转到探讨什么是真正的创新了。感觉可以把这些全变成innovation的定语从句


我的想法是为了论证exterprise对true innovation的重要性,首先分析什么是true innovation,分析的结果是指出做出true innovation需要什么,而再论证后面的什么是exterprise是什么,这样就看出来这个e正是做出t i需要的。所以,我不觉得该把那些东西作为一个定语从句。

Those celebrities often have extraordinary wisdom, intelligence and creativity, which often run beyond those of the populace.貌似与unique perception没有什么关系


恩,似乎有点儿,我再看看

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还可以补一点:脑力劳动和个人的enterprise有不可叠加性。因此团队没用的,需要一个牛人。。。

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From the past to the present, there have been emerging countless original devices, methods and ideas, denoted as innovation. I totally agree with the speaker's conclusion that an individual often serves as the impetus for the innovation, however, in my point of view, both the enterprise and unique perception of an individual and the aggregated power of a team account for the true innovation.

Undoubtedly, the individual enterprise, to a certain degree, serves as the premise of the true innovation. What innovation can be considered as the true one? From the perspective of both the past and the present, the true innovation frequently breaks through the contemporary conception and values, and even offends the prevailing standards. Meanwhile, the enterprise means owning the spirit to undertake new venture, and having the courage to break through the prevailing. An apt example can involve Einstein's theory of relativity. At that era, Newton's laws of classic mechanics dominated the field of physics. It was Einstein who challenged Newton's authority in all cases, addressing his own notion of time and space. In the realm of arts, myriads of similar cases can also illustrate this point, like Von Gogh's paintings, Beethoven' music and the like, all of which were not accepted by the contemporaries, but now win the world's honor. Without this enterprise, human race would gain the same achievement hundreds of years latter or even never. 这段虽然像是在写挑战权威的那片issue,搁这儿还挺好,呵呵

What is more, besides the enterprise, unique perception also plays a vital role for the true innovation. 这里衔接有点问题,加点什么Those celebrities often have extraordinary wisdom, intelligence and creativity, which often run beyond those of the populace. Frequently, such individual, serving as the leader of a team, digs into the issues more thoroughly than other members of the team and thereby have a more profound understanding of the issues. This unique perception is like the beacon, which points out the proper direction in the process. For instance, Deng Xiaoping, once the chairperson of China, revolutionarily put the "Reform and Opening up" policy into force from later 1970s, which makes the economy of China gain a surprise rapid rate of increase in recent decades. Also, while not adopting communism, Deng created the "One nation, Two systems" policy, which ensures the prosperity of both Hong Kang and Macao after ending the status of colonies. Deng’s thoughts and ideas may be inconceivable in most people’s mind at that time and even now.

However, the aggregated power of the team as a whole is also worthy of focusing on and should not be underestimated. While mentioning some innovation in history, people often connect them to certain individuals. The roles of these individuals have been discussed above and are of cause worthy of respect, but should not be overestimated in that the aggregated power of the team is heavier(power是不是可以用heavy来形容, 我也不太清楚) than the leader’s individually. Without the aggregated power of the team, the leader's idea could not be realized. While talking the War of Independence in American history, people will inevitably refer to Lincoln, the 16th president of America. Although Lincoln served as the central figure of that movement, but, were it not for the actions of other people, especially the slaves themselves, the slavery in America would not had been eliminated so rapidly. In a word, no matter how revolutionary the original idea of a certain individual is, unless the total team(unless用作介词,相当于expect,在这里好像不通), this idea could not change into the true innovation.

In the final analysis, both enterprise and unique perception of a certain individual are significant for the true innovation. It is true that an individual impel(s) the innovation, yet, it does not follow that the true innovation can utterly be resulted from the quality ( 这个不懂:( ) of an individual. Factually, the aggregated power of the team is an indispensable force of the progress.


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TOPIC:ISSUE 175 - "It is always an individual who is the impetus for innovation; the details may be worked out by a team, but true innovation results from the enterprise and unique perception of an individual."
限时结尾未完成,这是修改后的。  DATE:2006-2-7感觉这个题目有点难写啊

提纲:
观点:同意论者的结论,但不完全解释,个人和团队都重要。
1、        enterprise的重要性。
2、        unique perception的重要性。
3、        团队同样不可少。


From the past to the present, there have been emerging countless original devices, methods and ideas, denoted as innovation. I totally agree with the speaker's conclusion that an individual often serves as the impetus for the innovation, however, in my point of view, both the enterprise and unique perception of an individual and the aggregated power of a team account for the true innovation.

Undoubtedly, the individual enterprise, to a certain degree, serves as the premise of the true innovation. What innovation can be considered as thea true one? From the perspective of both the past and the present, the true innovation frequently breaks through the contemporary conception and values, and even offends the prevailing standards. Meanwhile, the enterprise means owning thea spirit to undertake new venture, and having the courage to break through the prevailing.重复了 An apt example can involve Einstein's theory of relativity. At that era, Newton's laws of classic mechanics dominated the field of physics. It was Einstein who challenged Newton's authority in all cases, addressing his own notion of time and space. In the realm of arts, myriads of similar cases can also illustrate this point, like Von Gogh's paintings, Beethoven' music and the like这里是??, all of which were not accepted by the contemporaries, but now win the world's honor. Without this enterprise, human race would gain the same achievement hundreds of years latter or even never. 这段是什么意思那? 只是说明什么是真正的enterprise?跟题目扯太远了点.应该是想说明个人的作用很大把,但是表达上给人感觉有点不切题

What is more, besides the enterprise, unique perception also plays a vital role for the true innovation. Those celebrities often have extraordinary wisdom, intelligence and creativity, which often run beyond those of the populace. Frequently, such individual, serving as the leader of a team, digs into the issues more thoroughly than other members of the team and thereby have a more profound understanding of the issues单数. This unique perception is like the beacon, which points out the proper direction in the process. For instance, Deng Xiaoping, once the chairperson of China, revolutionarily put the "Reform and Opening up" policy into force from later 1970s, which makes the economy of China gain a surprise rapid rate of increase in recent decades. Also, while not adopting communism, Deng created the "One nation, Two systems" policy, which ensures the prosperity of both Hong Kang and Macao after ending the status of colonies. Deng’s thoughts and ideas may be inconceivable in most people’s mind at that time and even now. 结构满不错的, 观点和例子,但是个人觉得少用中国例子比较好

However, the aggregated power of the team as a whole is also worthy of focusing on and should not be underestimated. While mentioning some innovation in history, people often connect them to certain individuals. The roles of these individuals have been discussed above and are of cause worthy of respect, but should not be overestimated in that the aggregated power of the team is heavier than the leader’s individually. Without the aggregated power of the team, the leader's idea could not be realized. While talking the War of Independence in ..........同学你这个错就搞大了, 你说的是独立战争war of independence 可是Lincoln是南北战争的啊.........American history, people will inevitably refer to Lincoln, the 16th president of America. Although Lincoln served as the central figure of that movement, but, were it not for the actions of other people, especially the slaves themselves, the slavery in America would not had been eliminated so rapidly. In a word, no matter how revolutionary the original idea of a certain individual is, unless the total team strive together, this idea could not change into the true innovation.

In the final analysis, both enterprise and unique perception of a certain individual are significant for the true innovation. It is true that an individual impel the innovation, yet, it does not follow that the true innovation can utterly be resulted from the quantity of an individual. Factually, the aggregated power of the team is an indispensable force of the progress.

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From the past to the present, there have been emerging countless original devices, methods and ideas, denoted as innovation. I totally agree with the speaker's conclusion that an individual often serves as the impetus for the innovation, however, in my point of view, both the enterprise and unique perception of an individual and the aggregated power of a team account for the true innovation.

Undoubtedly, the individual enterprise, to a certain degree, serves as the premise of the true innovation. What innovation can be considered as the true one? From the perspective of both the past and the present, the true innovation frequently breaks through the contemporary conception and values, and even offends the prevailing standards. Meanwhile, the enterprise means owning the spirit to undertake new venture, and having the courage to break through the prevailing. An apt example can involve Einstein's theory of relativity. At that era, Newton's laws of classic mechanics dominated the field of physics. It was Einstein who challenged Newton's authority in all cases, addressing his own notion of time and space. In the realm of arts, myriads of similar cases can also illustrate this point, like Von Gogh's paintings, Beethoven' music and the like, all of which were not accepted by the contemporaries, but now win the world's honor. Without this enterprise, human race would gain the same achievement hundreds of years latter or even never.
例子不错,很强的时间对比,还可以用在“伟人无法被同时代的人而是后人客观判断“那题。
What is more, besides the enterprise, unique perception also plays a vital role for the true innovation. Those celebrities often have extraordinary wisdom, intelligence and creativity, which often run beyond those of the populace. Frequently, such individual, serving as the leader of a team, digs into the issues more thoroughly than other members of the team and thereby have a more profound understanding of the issues. This unique perception is(去掉) like(likes) the beacon, which points out the proper direction in the process. For instance, Deng Xiaoping, once the chairperson of China, revolutionarily put the "Reform and Opening up" policy into force from later 1970s, which makes the economy of China gain a surprise rapid rate of increase in recent decades. Also, while not(去掉) adopting communism, Deng created the "One nation, Two systems" policy, which ensures the prosperity of both Hong Kang and Macao after ending the status of colonies. Deng’s thoughts and ideas may be inconceivable in most people’s mind at that time and even now.(这里强调unique perception那就改说成他的idea是别人从未想到过的,不然就与上一段相同了)
However, the aggregated power of the team as a whole is also worthy of focusing on and should not be underestimated. While mentioning some innovation in history, people often connect them to certain individuals. The roles of these individuals have been discussed above and are of cause worthy(be well worthy of ) of respect, but should not be overestimated in that the aggregated power of the team is heavier than the leader’s individually. Without the aggregated power of the team, the leader's idea could not be realized. While talking the War of Independence in American history, people will inevitably refer to Lincoln, (独立战争是华盛顿干的哈,林肯是civil war)the 16th president of America. Although Lincoln served as the central figure of that movement, but, were it not for the actions of other people, especially the slaves themselves, the slavery in America would not had been eliminated so rapidly. In a word, no matter how revolutionary the original idea of a certain individual is, unless the total team, this idea could not change into the true innovation.

In the final analysis, both enterprise and unique perception of a certain individual are significant for the true innovation. It is true that an individual impel the innovation, yet, it does not follow that the true innovation can utterly be resulted from the quality of an individual. Factually, the aggregated power of the team is an indispensable force of the progress.

整体不错,个别细节还得注意
你快限时成功了吧,限时写出这样不错
过完节,我又找不着北了,非常谢谢你的修改!!
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From the past to the present, there have been emerging countless original devices, methods and ideas, denoted as innovation. I totally agree with the speaker's conclusion that an individual often serves as the impetus for the innovation, however, in my point of view, both the enterprise and unique perception of an individual and the aggregated power of a team account for the true innovation.这个开头简节流畅,很好

Undoubtedly, the individual enterprise, to a certain degree, serves as the premise of the true innovation. What innovation can be considered as the true one? From the perspective of both the past and the present, the true innovation frequently breaks through the contemporary conception and values, and even offends the prevailing standards. Meanwhile, the enterprise means owning the spirit to undertake new venture, and having the courage to break through the prevailing.写法跟我一样,比较同意你首先分析什么叫innovation,再提出有enterprise是达到innovation的条件这种论述方法 An apt example can involve Einstein's theory of relativity. At that era, Newton's laws of classic mechanics dominated the field of physics. It was Einstein who challenged Newton's authority in all cases, addressing his own notion of time and space. 感觉只用一个challenge就结束这个例子,还看不出enterprise的作用啊,我觉得更加典型的例子是Cantor发明集合论,为了捍卫自己的理论他最终疯了。通过周围的反对以及对自己理论的坚持,更能看到enterprise的重要性,你的论述如果能展开一些,具体一些,个人感觉更好In the realm of arts, myriads of similar cases can also illustrate this point, like Von Gogh's paintings, Beethoven' music and the like, all of which were not accepted by the contemporaries因为你的例子数量多,每个都很简单,所以我个人感觉是对例子的分析不够,个人以为数量少一些,或者详细分析一个,附带几个,可能更好, but now win the world's honor. Without this enterprise, human race would gain the same achievement hundreds of years latter or even never.

What is more, besides the enterprise, unique perception also plays a vital role for the true innovation. 衔接很不错!Those celebrities often have extraordinary wisdom, intelligence and creativity, which often run beyond those of the populace. Frequently, such individual, serving as the leader of a team, digs into the issues more thoroughly than other members of the team and thereby have a more profound understanding of the issues. This unique perception个人感觉这里分析有点跳。对一个领域更加深入的认识为什么就是独到的见解呢?我觉得不一定。至少应该分析一下,或者前一句就不要提“更深入的认识” is like the beacon, which points out the proper direction in the process. For instance, Deng Xiaoping国际通用的邓小平名字是这么说的吗?毛泽东的好像不是直接写拼音, once the chairperson of China, revolutionarily put the "Reform and Opening up" policy into force from later 1970s, which makes the economy of China gain a surprise rapid rate of increase in recent decades. 个人感觉这个例子好像更多的是说了enterprise,从你的一些词句,比如revolutionarily,没有看到这是unique perception导致的,或者还是上一段说的,例子的分析应该再稍微展开一些Also, while not adopting communism, Deng created the "One nation, Two systems" policy, which ensures the prosperity of both Hong Kang and Macao after ending the status of colonies. Deng’s thoughts and ideas may be inconceivable in most people’s mind at that time and even now.

However, the aggregated power of the team as a whole is also worthy of focusing on and should not be underestimated. While mentioning some innovation in history, people often connect them to certain individuals. The roles of these individuals have been discussed above and are of cause worthy of respect, but should not be overestimated in that the aggregated power of the team is heavier than the leader’s individually干嘛非要分出哪个更加重要呢?我觉得这样的论断"heavier"真的是只言片语说不清出,甚至根本没有公论,就说no less crucial, neccessary之类不就行了?. Without the aggregated power of the team, the leader's idea could not be realized. While talking the War of Independence in American history, people will inevitably refer to Lincoln, the 16th president of America. Although Lincoln served as the central figure of that movement, but, were it not for the actions of other people, especially the slaves themselves, the slavery in America would not had been eliminated so rapidly. In a word, no matter how revolutionary the original idea of a certain individual is, unless the total team strive together, this idea could not change into the true innovation.

In the final analysis, both enterprise and unique perception of a certain individual are significant for the true innovation. It is true that an individual impel the innovation, yet, it does not follow that the true innovation can utterly be resulted from the quantity of an individual. Factually, the aggregated power of the team is an indispensable force of the progress.结尾很棒!

你好!看到很多人都提了修改意见,觉得把自己的想法说说也不错,相互切磋嘛!

你的语言很好,我应该都像你学习。我的用词比你差...在论证方面我有一些看法,都写在上面了,请你参考。

我的习作,请指教!谢谢!
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[quote]你好!看到很多人都提了修改意见,觉得把自己的想法说说也不错,相互切磋嘛!
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谢谢你的认真修改,特别是你的建议,呵呵,cantor set那个例子我就没想到的说,但就怕非数学的不懂啊,我以前举例子用过rational number就有人说不差字典还真不知道是什么了

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