0606G同主题写作第五期－－Issue36

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我认为只有后代人才可以评价：

1、现代人有一种既得利益，就是individual 对他好的话，就认为这个人是好的；对他不有力的话，就认为是不好的。而这一点后人是不存在的。
例如，比尔 盖茨他虽然现在对software industy 有很大的贡献，但是他的垄断至今还是一个问题。

2、由于这种利益关系的存在，当那个人带来的利益越来越大时，所以会造成一种现象，那就是形成一种权威。即时这个人犯了错误，大家未必可以及时地发现，或者是发现了，也未必敢于挑战。这个时候拿个人说的一切都是对的，都是好的。
打个不恰当的比方，就好像陷入恋爱中的人一样，即使对方的缺点也是优点。

例如，毛主席的人口计划还有文革（方便说么？）
Newton的晚年一些引用上帝的东西

3、而只有这些人的后代才能够计划发现这种错误，并且更加全面的进行评价。（这个时候，就是已经结婚了，发现错误已经来不及了，开个玩笑）
再比如，毛泽东。



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[ 本帖最后由 paopaofyn 于 2006-2-17 16:10 编辑 ]

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[ 本帖最后由 jacklove 于 2006-2-18 14:53 编辑 ]

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ISSUE 36 the greatness of individuals can be decided only by those who live after them, not by their contemporaries. 511字
提纲：总的来说就是个人和集体都重要，两者互不可分。
In a modern society, there is no denying the fact that whether the greatness of individuals can be decided by those who live after them as well as their contemporaries is a heated debate over a long period of time. According to the speaker, only though the individuals after them can their greatness be decided. Obviously, people will find it is almost impossible to come to the agreement on this highly controversial issue. In the last analysis, I am declined to support the opinion that the contemporaries as well as the people as those who live after them play an equally important role in the decision of the greatness of the individuals. The reasons are listed as follows.

In the first place, obviously, it is the people who live after them that can appraised from a relatively fair view and a wide or broad perspective. Take Galileo for example, when he was first exposed to his new theory-the sun-centered or heliocentric theory, which is absolutely controversial to the theory of Aristotle's which has rooted in the people's mind for centuries, the people and the church at that time can not understand his theory properly, so Church intend to send him in to prison. However, after centuries, the theory is so well known that even a six-year-old child can know it. The example illustrates clearly that in some special period of time, the greatness of individuals can not be decided correctly, because the opinions they held at that time is obviously limited. So though the people who live after them can the people being decided receive a fair and wide evaluation.

In the second place, however, only though the decision of the contemporaries can the individuals who are decided know what he has done in the past, and what he has to do in the future! Epitomize in my experience, as I grow up, there are more and more people around me, including the old, the young, the men and the women, although we are from different backgrounds, diverse culture, and instinct spirit, one thing is certain, that is we can find weakness or faults each other, by which we can amend them and turn better, take a tree as an example, if you want it to turn taller, you have to cut the vice-branches down. The vice-branches here equal to the faults. To conclude, the contemporaries can make the people receive much bigger greatness.
In sum, it is very unlikely that people will never be able to arrive at the same conclusion on this controversial issue, due to their different experiences and conflicting values. Nevertheless, public awareness of the various dimensions of the issue discussed in the above argument will certainly contribute to the thorough understanding of the problem.

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===提纲===
1 利益牵涉使得当代人无法客观评价。
2 后人也是根据前人的记录得到评价的。
3 任何时代都有自身的局限性。

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刚开始写全篇练习，真诚欢迎各位的意见！～先道声多谢多谢哦！:)

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基本赞成 两正一反
主张由后人评价 但必须参考前人的观点
第一次写ISSU   希望能得到大家的帮助和指点
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issue36
The greatness of individuals can be decided only by those who live after them, but not their contemporaries.

  To assess the greatness of individuals is actually a creative process, which is determined by creteria,social infulence, development of economy and  feelings of people involved in the evaluation. Thus, the speaker's assertion that the greatness of individuals can be decided only by those who live after them is too inflexible, neglecting some subjective factors such as creteria and individual fondness. In my opinion, both people living after the assessed individuals and their contemporaries can make approximately impartial conclusions in specific standards.
  When it comes to deciding greatness of a person, we should first set standards for manipulation. Obviously, there is no all-inclusive principles to us. Different people focus on different aspects.Some of them tend to consider marality as the first and foremost factor while others may be incline to contemplate on social influence of a person prior to other factors. Generally speaking, someone who is authorative on his or her business is likely to be well appraised. But when he or she has morally done something wrong, the fame would be despoted at least to some extent. For those contemporaries, they get chances to directly examine the appraised person's behaviours and morality, they even gain access to feel the power of that person. Thus, appraisals of the greatness made by contemporaries are usually certain enough to trust. When the appraised person passes away, the next generations have to track his or her behaviours and morality by searching materials recorded, sometimes even by anecdotes passed from generation to generation. However,the fidelity of these materials is not always high,  many people may be confused, let alone giving an appropriate assessment.
  Another problem is that influences of individuals cannot be simply displayed in his or her era. Many famous people won their fame and became dominant in their era, thus, it is easy to measure influences of them and make objective assessments . For instance, Albert Einstain showed his talent when he was very young and was awarded Nobel Prize for his contribution. Bill Gates have accumulated incredible wealth in about 20 years and have gained widespread respection. No one denys their greatness. But there are many people who bring profound changes to the world after they die. For supporting examples we need look no further than Mendel, the founder of genetics. Mendel publicated his research results on plant hybridization and put forward his theory of genetics in 1865. But his thoery was not given enough notice at that time. It is not until 1900 that he became known to the world. Three scientists discovered his thoery again. Since then, genetics as a discipline greatly developed. Obviously, it is impossible for his contemporaries to give a proper evaluation on him.
  At last, when we considering the greatness of individuals, social conditions must be taken into account. The level of science and technology affects our way of thinking very much.  The deeper extent science and technlogy develop, the penetrating foresight we get. Scocial customs also play an important part in evaluation. Some individuals may be well adorned in his or her tribe or group, but not so respectable to other people because of their unfamiliarity to his or her customs. It is extremely easy to find cases in religion.
  In summary, not only people living after the appraised person but also the contemporaries can decide the greatness of individuals. However, the results of them may be different. Concerning the standards, social conditions, fondness of individuals, these results could be approximately objective ones. When we   
evaluate a person, we have to be alert to all these factors. Therefore, what the author claims is too consolidate. The author unessarily exclude the contemporaries.

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TOPIC: ISSUE36 - "The greatness of individuals can be decided only by those who live after them, not by their contemporaries."
WORDS: 472          TIME: 0:45:00          DATE: 2006-2-23

部分同意：
1)        对于人类永恒的追求来说，与伟人同时代与不同时代的人都将予以肯定。
2)        各时代对于伟大的标准不同，因为对于伟大的评价也不一而足，则经常伟人是被后人评定的。
3)        除了那些得到同时代肯定或后代肯定的，还有我们至今乃至将来也无法判定的伟大发现或学说
总结：最重要的是要客观全面的看待伟人及伟大的事物

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