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发表于 2006-5-6 01:51:18 |只看该作者 |倒序浏览
以下是我跟国外的教授反复联系询问毕业后的工作问题,现在汇总给HRer们
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. X4 E" t6 t1 b/ g注意,这只是教授们自己的看法,或者基于当地的情况,或者基于往届生的情况,不是official instruction,仅供大家参考,请勿以此作为选校依据2 D# x' o9 R- ^4 ^. U; P
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Director of Graduate Studies & Professor from University of Minnesota:
6 }2 L; ?- O; s' ~9 A+ p5 \I don't know a lot about Cleveland State's HR program. It's not as good as Minnesota or Rutgers but it is probably comparable to Georgia State. The salary situation you noted is generally similar for Chinese graduates of our MA HRIR program. Visa restrictions make for significantly reduced employment opportunities, so students sometimes take any job they can find, even if the salary is very low. The best way to improve your changes of employment opportunities in the US is to get more corporate work experience in China before attending graduate school.
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$ _' ^: A, m7 m, W% J2 zProfessor from Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey) O: w" R" m" c( e
Usually, HR graduates from institutions like Cornell, Rutgers and UIUC are extremely competitive while pursuing senior positions in global labor market. However, as what you suppposed, international students from non-English speaking countries will be very likely to encounter cultural conflicts or communication problems while finding a job in US. I don't know where you get the employment information, but I can tell you that your friends were telling you the truth. If you do not have distinguished work experience before taking our graduate program, it will be difficult for you to find internship opportunity during the program or get a decent job here after graduation.  L4 b" a9 ?. r1 J8 |
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I cannot ensure you that you be accepted into a intern position during the summmer session. But I will recommend you to some local companies which have close connections with Nance College. Please take it easy. Make youself here first. Problems do exist, but you'll always find ways out as long as you keep fighting for it.  
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Associate Professor from Georgia State University
. ?8 }( d5 _% YYes, there are huge job opportunities here in Atlanta. However, US companies are always reluctant to hire Asian students, though they often prefer students from India and Singapore. You may get internship offers during the program, but it can not guarantee you be employed finally (mostly because of the Visa things). I wish I could share you with more good news, but this is all I could tell you at this moment. I'm sorry about that. And I sincerely hope this does not mean you will not choose our program.  8 j4 S3 K: }6 G  z

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Job offers here in Wisconsin are not as much as what you can find in either western or eastern coast. And situation is even harder for international students lacking in local cultural background. So, if you plan to find a job in US after graduation, I strongly recommend you get more work experience before starting our program. We would like to help you defer your admission up to 4 semesters if you like.
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It depends. In your case, I would suggest you earn as much experience as you can if you would like to find a job in NY after completing our program. As far as I know, the HRIR program offered by University of Minnesota ranks top 3 among all related master programs you could probably find in USA. Carlson has kinds of links with famous enterprises around the world. That's what NYIT cannot make itself paralleled to. But, I'd tell you that international students may not benefit from those links as much as Amercian residents do. Many international HR graduates from all over the US have to go back to serve their country. It's not merely because of the US embassy restrictions on H1 Visa. Actually companies just find excuses to reject you during the interview, while the true problem is always that you may not arm yourself well with sufficient knowledge on the local labor law or you may not hold the language freely as you can. / D' s& i! }8 \$ T
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3 s, N( E' m. x, D. NI don't know for sure whether you will be competitive. But I can tell you that most of our international students always try very hard to find a job after graduation. And their salary is always some 20, or 30 perhaps, percent lower than that of American residents. It is normal all over the States, not just in Texas. I hope this could be helpful.  v8 E# h: \$ g/ Y+ Z, I

+ r* ^- B" {6 \6 u' PAssistant Professor from University of New Haven
% H% ]) p4 G7 ~% x& `* j% J3 }Visa restrictons is the key. That is why most companies are always not intended to give job offers to international students even if they are proved to be outstanding ones during the internship. Given that international students finally find a job here in US, the salary will be likely to differ a lot from locals. I'm not sure the difference would be $10,000 to $15,000 per year. But it sounds reasonable. I hope you can understand that. I think you will easily find a job while back to China. You should schedule yourslef before you make any further steps.
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综上所述,我觉得教授们的普遍意见都是国际学生找工作还是比较难的。前段时间和一个CSU HR master毕业的前辈聊了很长时间,她现在在Houston一家中国人开的猎头公司做猎头,起薪只有$37,000(还得扣差不多20%的税),比同期的美国同学低了1万左右。她还说这已经是比较理想的了,因为有工作总比没工作的好。她觉得自己很幸运,因为她认识的一些在Rutgers和MSU读HR的朋友都回国了,不过薪水在国内来说很高。
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就是出于就业的考虑据了marquette。。。
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发表于 2006-5-6 13:38:24 |只看该作者
嗯,感觉GTer上商科氛围太淡了,全是理工的声音啊。。。
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发表于 2006-5-6 14:12:47 |只看该作者
kevin的出现肯定会在GT上掀起一股HR热.:)

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原来lz是读HR的...
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发表于 2006-5-7 10:07:55 |只看该作者
似乎HR毕业后找工作不是很乐观啊。。。

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Kevin,看了你美国HR申请系列文档之后,对你真的是由衷的佩服。# q; ~7 [0 ]3 V
你是个很执着的人,按照你这种做事方式,相信无论你做什么,你都会成功。) V; C1 e1 y+ s# M* v# Q8 q
我自叹不如。
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这些信息会给后来者很多启发啊,谢谢楼主再三:)

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安啦, 就像教授说的:problems do exsist, but you'll always find ways out as long as you keep fighting for it.  我们hrer只要努力,就会有好的工作的。在中国就业一样难啊,所以加油啦。

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it is quite useful!!: y/ f( k: x7 E! b& g0 _4 H
many thanks to you! you are quite good guy!!

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不管如何,我还是看好HR在中国的发展前景的,准备申GSU和CSU了.希望kevin能给些帮助!我PM过你,你没理我,呵呵...可能太忙了!

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