ISSUE4 ［加州阳光］第四次作业ＦＲＯＭ ７２８ＡＷ

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ISSUE4 No field of study can advance signigicatly unless outsider bring their knowledge and experience to that field of study.
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:mad:寝室太吵了，一直听快曲写的
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一直不敢相信ＷＯＲＤ，怎么看这挺多的，计算出来才这么点儿字儿呢，ＭＡＤ。。。
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OUTLINE
1.        外来经验有助于本学科发展
2.        但是不是所有的都这样，有些学科就是只能靠自己来发展取得进步
3.        有些时候，一些学科还需要其他条件获得成功。


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The speaker asserts that only when a discipline borrows the knowledge and experience from another field can it advance significantly. In my view this extreme position misses the point entirely. Whether all the fields should use other knowledge and experience in order to make progress must be determined on a case-by-case basis.

On the one hand, I admit that through associating with the outsiders and take advantage of their emergent technology and fruitions, the traditional disciplines can expand their sphere of researching in a much broader scope. An example that is well developed to demonstrate my point is that when geognosy and the most advanced technology of spaceflight met, the geophysics came into being. It is the physics of the earth and its environment, including the physics of fields such as meteorology, oceanography, and seismology. Under which we can have a better chance to understand our atmosphere around us. Furthermore, consider biochemistry, which is produced by mixing biology and chemistry. It is not only does merits in our health condition but also provide us a way to lead a better life.

On the other hand, however, there is no denying the fact that not all the field of study make progress through the knowledge and experience provided by other fields. A case in point is that Newton's Law of Gravitation and Einstein's Theory of Relativity. Those huge revolutionary advancements are not triggered by borrowing knowledge and experience but utterly genius' flash of wisdom, little of which is borrowed from other subjects. Those subjects indeed are the ones which need more thoughts and imagination independently. Furthermore, I insist that most of the disciplines need to build their structures at their own to begin with, the rest of work are the ornament and decorations which are borrowed from other fields. In other words, a discipline should develop its own way to make a structure, the outsider's experience and knowledge are the ornament and decoration to make it better, if necessary. If there is no basic theory of a field, no mention of the other field's advises.

Furthermore, as for factors contributing to an academic subjects' significant breakthrough, they include many apart form sharing the outsider's intelligence, such as the long-term academic accumulation, the appropriate social and economic support, the good timing birth of geniuses and so on. Take the emergence of Internet for instance; Bill Gate makes the compelling breakthrough not only by him and his cooperation with others, but also the very timing of the mass communication need by the public. Both the factors contribute to the success of Internet.

To sum up, I admit that different disciplines are interrelated and that the knowledge of one field can shed light on the studies of other fields. However, in most cases, a field can not have a mirage of making a successful fruit by not only using others’ garden but also seeds. What sage ways is that build the basic elements in a field and use other fields’ experience and knowledge appropriately; this is the way to the successful achievements.

[ 本帖最后由 728AW 于 2006-6-23 20:51 编辑 ]

zzstephenUID: 2212442

文章逻辑很流畅，语言也好。指出一点不足，感觉倒数第二段写得不太好，跟题目靠得不够紧。另外，the emergence of Internet 的功劳不能算给Bill Gates的，是美国的国家实验室的功劳，而万维网的发明是一个德国人。。。

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The speaker asserts that only when a discipline borrows the knowledge and experience from another field can it advance significantly. In my view this extreme position misses the point entirely. Whether all the fields should use other knowledge and experience in order to make progress must be determined on a case-by-case（什么意思，没查到） basis.

On the one hand, I admit that through associating with the outsiders and take advantage of their emergent technology and fruitions, the traditional disciplines can expand their sphere of researching in a much broader scope. An example that is well developed to demonstrate my point is that when geognosy and the most advanced technology of spaceflight met, the geophysics came into being. It is the physics of the earth and its environment, including the physics of fields such as meteorology, oceanography, and seismology. Under which we can have a better chance to understand our atmosphere around us. Furthermore, consider biochemistry, which is produced by mixing biology and chemistry. It is not only does merits in our health condition but also provide us a way to lead a better life.（It not only has merit on our health condition but provide us a way to lead a better life）
On the other hand, however, there is no denying the fact that not all the field of study make progress through the knowledge and experience provided by other fields. A case in point is that Newton's Law of Gravitation（Gravity） and Einstein's Theory of Relativity. Those huge revolutionary advancements are not triggered by borrowing knowledge and experience but utterly genius' flash of wisdom, little of which is borrowed from other subjects. Those subjects indeed are the ones which need more thoughts and imagination independently. Furthermore, I insist that most of the disciplines need to build their structures at their own to begin with, the rest of work are the ornament and decorations which are borrowed from other fields. In other words, a discipline should develop its own way to make a structure, the outsider's experience and knowledge are the ornament and decoration to make it better, if necessary. If there is no basic theory of a field, no mention of the other field's advises.

Furthermore, as for factors contributing to an academic subjects' significant breakthrough, they include many apart form sharing the outsider's intelligence, such as the long-term academic accumulation, the appropriate social and economic support, the good timing birth of geniuses and so on. Take the emergence of Internet for instance; Bill Gate makes the compelling breakthrough not only by him and his cooperation with others, but also the very timing of the mass communication need by the public. Both the factors contribute to the success of Internet.( 这个例子确实不是很贴切)
To sum up, I admit that different disciplines are interrelated and that the knowledge of one field can shed light on the studies of other fields. However, in most cases, a field can not have a mirage of making a successful fruit by not only（neither） using others’ garden but also (nor) seeds. What sage ways is that build the basic elements in a field and use other fields’ experience and knowledge appropriately; this is the way to the successful achievements.
观点很清晰，支持独立的研究。但Gates的例子需要在考虑一下。

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728AWUID: 2216408

恩..最后那个列子是凑字数弄上去的...惭愧,果真不恰当..
希望大家个提个建议,有什么恰当的例子适合这个的没

joey.liuUID: 2207101

OUTLINE
1.        外来经验有助于本学科发展
2.        但是不是所有的都这样，有些学科就是只能靠自己来发展取得进步
3.        有些时候，一些学科还需要其他条件获得成功。


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The speaker asserts that only when a discipline borrows the knowledge and experience from another field can it advance significantly. In my view this extreme position misses the point entirely. Whether all the fields should use other knowledge and experience in order to make progress must be determined on a case-by-case basis.

On the one hand, I admit that through associating with the outsiders and take advantage of their emergent(mature更恰当) technology and fruitions, the traditional disciplines can expand their sphere of researching in a much broader scope. An example that is well developed to demonstrate my point is that when geognosy and the most advanced technology of spaceflight met, the geophysics came into being. It is the physics of the earth and its environment, including the physics of fields such as meteorology, oceanography, and seismology（这一句要说什么？）. Under which we can have a better chance to understand our atmosphere around us. Furthermore, consider biochemistry, which is produced by mixing biology and chemistry. It is not only does merits in our health condition but also provide us a way to lead a better life.（not only...but also...前后表达的意思一样啊？）

On the other hand, however, there is no denying the fact that not all the field of study make progress through the knowledge and experience provided by other fields. A case in point is that Newton's Law of Gravitation and Einstein's Theory of Relativity. Those huge revolutionary advancements are not triggered by borrowing knowledge and experience but utterly genius' flash of wisdom, little of which is borrowed from other subjects.（例子不是很恰当，例如Newton将数学微积分引入） Those subjects indeed are the ones which need more thoughts and imagination independently. Furthermore, I insist that most of the disciplines need to build their structures at their own to begin with, the rest of work are the ornament and decorations（ornament和decoration同一个意思吧？） which are borrowed from other fields. In other words, a discipline should develop its own way to make a structure, the outsider's experience and knowledge are the ornament and decoration to make it better,（这不是正在支持作者的结论(without outsider's experience, there would be no progress in a field)么？） if necessary. If there is no basic theory of a field, no mention of the other field's advises.

Furthermore, as for factors contributing to an academic subjects' significant breakthrough, they include many apart form sharing the outsider's intelligence, such as the long-term academic accumulation, the appropriate social and economic support, the good timing birth of geniuses and so on. Take the emergence of Internet for instance; Bill Gate makes the compelling breakthrough not only by him and his cooperation with others, but also the very timing of the mass communication need by the public. Both the factors contribute to the success of Internet.(例子有点偏)

To sum up, I admit that different disciplines are interrelated and that the knowledge of one field can shed light on the studies of other fields. However, in most cases, a field can not have a mirage of making a successful fruit by not only using others’ garden but also seeds. What sage ways is that build the basic elements in a field and use other fields’ experience and knowledge appropriately; this is the way to the successful achievements.

楼主思路还是不错的，但缺乏有力的例证支持
我拍的有点严，个人观点，请多指教！
请回拍，Thanks！
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