Issue 51 期待互拍~

icecream0325UID: 160486

51"Education will be truly effective only when it is specifically designed to meet the individual needs and interests of each student."

不很同意

1. 有很多基础课不管学生感兴趣与否都得上的，比如刚开始学数学，很难，很多学生觉得枯燥不想学，但是这些基础课又跟将来生活分不开，所以必须学
2. 学生太小，不确定自己的兴趣是否真正的兴趣，可能会不固定，三天就换一个兴趣。
3. 还有其他一些原因不能实行因兴趣施教，比如没有那么多师资去针对每个学生进行特殊教育，而且很多学生的兴趣很古怪，教育系统无法满足
4. 但是也不能扼杀了学生的兴趣，要适度培养，或许这个学生将来会为社会在这方面做出贡献。

Which style of education do you think is more efficient? The education which pushes all students to learn the identical mandatory disciplines or the one designed for meeting each individual student's needs and interests? It is natural that some people may agree that education which is given according to students' different desire work more efficiently than the identical education. In the last analysis, I argue that the education designed for each student doesn't seem to be an effective way on the basis of the several following reasons I will outline.

Consider that there are some basic subjects like maths, language, natural science or morality which appear not to be interesting to a part of students, but I think no one would deny the importance and usefulness of these basic subjects in our life. Usually, many students consider these mandatory subjects are boring and they can not expect the usefulness of these subjects in their future life and career. Given that the educators give only the course relevant to art to a student who is interested in this artistic field, can you imagine that how can this unaccomplished great artist survive in the world fraught with competition? They may have some problem in calculation even about how much money they earn without taking maths course. They may suffer the embarrassed situation when someone ask them a quite easy question related to natural science and ultimately they give a silly answer without any scientific education. They may also face the difficulty to go on with the people around them if they have not been taught how to deal with the relationship with others in the morality course. Can you announce that this education only according to the students' needs and interests is effective?

Furthermore, the students who start to receive the education are all very young; they do not have the mature mind to decide what they are really interested in. Looking to the children in our life, how many children can insist their interests all the time? Take the little pretty girl who is living next to my house as an example. The first day when she entered the kindergarten, she had lots of interested in learning singing. Then her parents invited a singer expert to home to teach her the skill of singing. But once she began to learn singing seriously, she faced some difficulties like she had to get up early to practise singing and learn to recognize the signs in staff. After half year, she changed her interest to playing violin. As a result of hand-pain from hard training, she switched her interest again to another skill. So are you sure that your child will be really and always interested in what he tell you when you are willing to spend time and money on his or her interest?

In addition, it's impossible to educate each student by their own needs and interests because we don't have so many teacher and some students' interests may be quaint and difficult to be cultivated. In our education system, no matter how fast the number of teachers is increasing, it can not meet the demand that each student has a teacher. And can you promise that you have the proper method to teach the student who has the eccentric interest like the supernatural thing?

However, it should be admitted that the moderate education according to students' interests will encourage the students become an expert in the field which they are interested in which can not be achieved by only offering the identical courses to all students. Our social needs different experts in different sphere, and we do train the students in different way to meet their own interests and social's needs, that's why our culture, economy, science and technology keep being developed.

In summary, I hold my opinion that effective education should be carried out with the combination of basic courses and some courses relevant to the students' interests rather than only offering the special causes to different students. Educating individual student on the basis of his or her own needs and interests is an ideal vision which is difficult to come true in real life and to some extent some basic subjects which are necessary must be given to students no matter they like or not since they are useful.

HypnosUID: 172442

Whichstyle of education do you think is more efficient? The education whichpushes all students to learn the identical mandatory disciplines or theone designed for meeting each individual student's needs and interests?It is natural that some people may agree that education which is givenaccording to students' different desire work more efficiently than theidentical education. In the last analysis, I argue that the educationdesigned for each student doesn't seem to be an effective way on thebasis of the several following reasons I will outline.

Consider that there aresome basic subjects like maths, language, natural science or moralitywhich appear not to be interesting to a part of students, but I think(个人观点尽量不要出现)no one would deny the importance and usefulness of these basic subjectsin our life. Usually, many students consider these mandatory subjectsare boring(似乎跟前句有一点重复之疑) and they can not expect the usefulness of these subjects intheir future life and career. Given that the educators give only thecourse relevant to art to a student who is interested in this artisticfield, can you imagine that how can this unaccomplished great artistsurvive in the world fraught with competition? They may have someproblems in calculation even about how much money they earn withouttaking maths course. They may suffer the embarrassed situation whensomeone ask them a quite easy question related to natural science andultimately they give a silly answer without any scientific education.They may also face the difficulty to go on with the people around themif they have not been taught how to deal with the relationship withothers in the morality course. Can you announce that this educationonly according to the students' needs and interests is effective?(这段列举了要是不学基础课程产生的一些问题,初衷不错,比较遗憾的是排比的局势不够明显,或者说是三个句子太长,或者说是我的水平太次,呵呵,问句有点多)

Furthermore, the studentswho start to receive the education are all very young; they do not havethe mature mind to decide what they are really interested in. Lookingto(at) the children in our life, how many children can insist theirinterests all the time? Take the little pretty girl who is living nextto my house as an example. The first day when she entered thekindergarten, she had lots of interested in learning singing. Then herparents invited a singer expert to home to teach her the skill ofsinging. But once she began to learn singing seriously, she faced somedifficulties like she had to get up early to practise singing and learnto recognize the signs in staff. After half year, she changed herinterest to playing violin. As a result of hand-pain from hardtraining, she switched her interest again to another skill. So are yousure that your child will be really and always interested in what hetell you when you are willing to spend time and money on his or herinterest?(例子举了一个邻家小女孩三天打鱼两天晒网,比较符合题意,不过我想问你一个问题:所有的教育对象都是年龄小的孩子吗?还是说对年龄小的孩子的教育应该是学校安排的)

In addition, it'simpossible to educate each student by their own needs and interestsbecause we don't have so many teachers and some students' interests maybe quaint and difficult to be cultivated. In our education system, nomatter how fast the number of teachers is increasing, it can not meetthe demand that each student has a teacher. And can you promise thatyou have the proper method to teach the student who has the eccentricinterest like the supernatural thing?(竟然把 ETS最讨厌的超自然也扯上了,不错)

However, it should beadmitted that the moderate education according to students' interestswill encourage the students become an expert in the field which theyare interested in which can not be achieved by only offering theidentical courses to all students. Our social needs different expertsin different sphere, and we do train the students in different way tomeet their own interests and social's needs, that's why our culture,economy, science and technology keep being developed(用主动与其更加简洁).

In summary, I hold myopinion that effective education should be carried out with thecombination of basic courses and some courses relevant to the students'interests rather than only offering the special causes to differentstudents. Educating individual student on the basis of his or her ownneeds and interests is an ideal vision which is difficult to come truein real life and to some extent some basic subjects which are necessarymust be given to students no matter they like or not since they areuseful.

文章结构合理,3个反对段加1个赞同段典型的反对大于赞同的文章,不过文章缺少一种用ETS说的话就是specific examples,能够有说服力的例子,lz最好多看点例子方面的材料,论点很站得住脚,要是能有强有力的例子就更好了~
我水平有限,意见仅供参考

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[ 本帖最后由 Hypnos 于 2007-1-31 21:48 编辑 ]

yagagaUID: 2140053

51"Education will be truly effective only when it is specifically designed to meet the individual needs and interests of each student."

不很同意

1. 有很多基础课不管学生感兴趣与否都得上的，比如刚开始学数学，很难，很多学生觉得枯燥不想学，但是这些基础课又跟将来生活分不开，所以必须学
2. 学生太小，不确定自己的兴趣是否真正的兴趣，可能会不固定，三天就换一个兴趣。
3. 还有其他一些原因不能实行因兴趣施教，比如没有那么多师资去针对每个学生进行特殊教育，而且很多学生的兴趣很古怪，教育系统无法满足
4. 但是也不能扼杀了学生的兴趣，要适度培养，或许这个学生将来会为社会在这方面做出贡献。

Which style of education do you think is more efficient? The education which pushes all students to learn the identical mandatory disciplines or the one designed for meeting each individual student's needs and interests? It is natural that some people may agree that education which is given according to students' different desire work more efficiently than the identical education. In the last analysis, I argue that the education designed for each student doesn't seem to be an effective way on the basis of the several following reasons I will outline. 开头略显繁琐

Consider that there are some basic subjects like maths, language, natural science数学应该属于自然科学的把 or morality which appear notdo not appear to be interesting to a part of students, but不用but I think no one would deny the importance and usefulness of these basic subjects in our life. Usually, many students consider these mandatory subjects are boring and they can not expect the usefulness of these subjects in their future life有点别扭 and career. Given that the educators give only the course relevant to art to a student who is interested in this artistic field, can you imagine that how can this unaccomplished great artist survive in the world fraught 喜欢这个词with competition? They may have some problem in calculation even about how much money they earn without taking maths course. They may suffer the embarrassed situation when someone ask them a quite easy question related to natural science and ultimately they give a silly answer without any scientific education. They may also face the difficulty to go on with the people around them if they have not been taught how to deal with the relationship with others in the morality course. Can you announce that this education only according to the students' needs and interests is effective?这一段花了大量的时间来陈述例子，这样会显得分析不深入，因为考试时间不多

Furthermore, the students who start to receive the education are all very young; they do not have the mature mindare not mature enough to decide what they are really interested in. Looking to the children in our life, how many children can insist their interests all the time? Take the little pretty girl who is living next to my house as an example. The first day when she entered the kindergarten, she had lots of interested in learning singing. Then her parents invited a singer expert to home to teach her the skill of singing. But once she began to learn singing seriously, she faced some difficulties like she had to get up early to practise singing and learn to recognize the signs in staff. After half year, she changed her interest to playing violin. As a result of hand-pain from hard training, she switched her interest again to another skill. So are you sure that your child will be really and always interested in what he tell you when you are willing to spend time and money on his or her interest?仍然花大量的时间来陈述例子，最好加入分析

In addition, it's impossible to educate each student by their own needs and interests because we don't have so many teacher and some students' interests may be quaint and difficult to be cultivated. In our education system, no matter how fast the number of teachers is increasing, it can not meet the demand that each student has a teacher. And can you promise that you have the proper method to teach the student who has the eccentric interest like the supernatural thing?说理不是很充分，PS：为什么都以反问句结尾呢

However, it should be admitted that the moderate education according to students' interests will encourage the students become an expert in the field which they are interested in which can not be achieved by only offering the identical courses to all students.不要从句套从句 Our social needs different experts in different sphere不要刻意的换词, and we do train the students in different way to meet their own interests and social's needs, that's why our culture, economy, science and technology keep being developed.

In summary, I hold my opinion that effective education should be carried out with the combination of basic courses and some courses relevant to the students' interests rather than only offering the special causes to different students. Educating individual student on the basis of his or her own needs and interests is an ideal vision which is difficult to come true in real life and to some extent some basic subjects which are necessary must be given to students no matter they like or not since they are useful.最后一段比较罗嗦，可以化简，缩减为2-3句话

lonelyginsUID: 2267125

纯属个人观点, 大家可以砖上拍砖, 哈哈

Which style of education do you think is more efficient? The education which pushes all students to learn the identical mandatory disciplines or the one designed for meeting each individual student's needs and interests? It is natural that some people may agree that education which is given according to students' different desire work more efficiently than the identical education. In the last analysis, I argue that the education designed for each student doesn't seem to be an effective way on the basis of the several following reasons I will outline.

Consider that there are some basic subjects like maths, language, natural science or morality which appear not to be interesting to a part of students, but I think no one would deny the importance and usefulness of these basic subjects in our life. Usually, many students consider these mandatory subjects are boring and they can not expect the usefulness of these subjects in their future life and career. Given that the educators give only the course relevant to art to a student who is interested in this artistic field, can you imagine that how can this unaccomplished great artist survive in the world fraught with[这个字好,赞:)] competition? They may have some problem in calculation even about how much money they earn without taking maths course. They may suffer the embarrassed[embarrassing] situation when someone ask them a quite easy question related to natural science and ultimately they give a silly answer without any scientific education[最好是without any commonsense of science]. They may also face the difficulty to go on with the people around them if they have not been taught how to deal with the relationship with others in the morality course. Can you announce that this education only according to[only放在according to 的后面比较好, 另外, according to好像不太通, closely binded to吧?] the students' needs and interests is effective?
主要问题是讲一个例子讲得太多了~~比较单薄,都是水:)

Furthermore, the students who start to receive the education are all very young; they do not have the mature mind to decide what they are really interested in. Looking to the children in our life, how many children can insist their interests all the time? Take the little pretty girl who is living next to my house as an example. The first day when she entered the kindergarten, she had lots of interested in learning singing. Then her parents invited a singer expert to home to teach her the skill of singing. But once she began to learn singing seriously, she faced some difficulties like she had to get up early to practise singing and learn to recognize the signs in staff. After half year, she changed her interest to playing violin. As a result of hand-pain from hard training, she switched her interest again to another skill. So are you sure that your child will be really and always interested in what he tell you when you are willing to spend time and money on his or her interest?
还是同样的问题. 不如把观点讲得多些,一层接一层上去, 或者正反都讲. 比如1. 不能保证interest持久, 2. 即使interest持久, 不学好基础课程还是不得其门而入, 反而会误入歧途 3. 即使学好了基础课程, 在自己的兴趣上有很强的实力,  但偏执于自己的个性, 没有与别人打交道的经验, 还是没法获得成功的.

In addition, it's impossible to educate each student by their own needs and interests because we don't have so many teacher and some students' interests may be quaint and difficult to be cultivated. In our education system, no matter how fast the number of teachers is increasing, it can not meet the demand that each student has a teacher. And can you promise that you have the proper method to teach the student who has the eccentric interest like the supernatural thing?

However, it should be admitted that the moderate education according to students' interests will encourage the students become an expert in the field which they are interested in[加个逗号吧, 后面那个which是修饰整句的] which can not be achieved by only offering the identical courses to all students. Our social needs different experts in different sphere, and we do train the students in different way to meet their own interests and social's needs, that's why our culture, economy, science and technology keep being developed.

In summary, I hold my opinion that effective education should be carried out with the combination of basic courses and some courses relevant to the students' interests rather than only offering the special causes to different students. [大问题, 首句观点和这里的不同, 首句是doesn't seem to be an effective way,而这里是combination]Educating individual student on the basis of his or her own needs and interests is an ideal vision which is difficult to come true in real life and to some extent some basic subjects which are necessary must be given to students no matter they like or not since they are useful.

整体来说观点还是很明晰的~~加油:)

majiadaiUID: 2235408

Which style of education do you think is more efficient? The education which pushes all students to learn the identical mandatory disciplines or the one designed for meeting each individual student's needs and interests? It is natural that some people may agree that education which is given according to students' different desire work more efficiently than the identical education. In the last analysis, (不好意思,没看懂,这last analysis是指什么)I argue that the education designed for each student doesn't seem to be an effective way on the basis of the several following reasons I will outline.

Consider that there are some basic subjects like maths, language, natural science or morality which appear not to be interesting to a part of students, but I think（i think去了更好吧） no one would deny the importance and usefulness of these basic subjects in our life. Usually, many students consider these mandatory subjects are boring and they can not expect the usefulness of these subjects in their future life and career. Given that the educators give only the course relevant to art to a student who is interested in this artistic field, can you imagine that how can this unaccomplished great artist survive in the world fraught with competition? They may have some problem in calculation even about how much money they earn without taking maths course. They may suffer the embarrassed situation when someone ask them a quite easy question related to natural science and ultimately they give a silly answer without any scientific education. They may also face the difficulty to go on with the people around them if they have not been taught how to deal with the relationship with others in the morality course. Can you announce that this education only according to the students' needs and interests is effective?（这句前最好有个effective education 的定义）

Furthermore, the students who start to receive the education are all very young; they do not have the mature mind to decide what they are really interested in. Looking to (at)the children in our life, how many children can insist(on) their interests all the time? Take the little pretty girl who is living next to my house as an example. The first day when she entered the kindergarten, she had lots of interested(interests) in learning singing. Then her parents invited a singer expert to home to teach her the skill of singing. But once she began to learn singing seriously, she faced some difficulties like she had to get up early to practise singing and learn to recognize the signs in staff. After half year, she changed her interest to playing violin. As a result of hand-pain from hard training, she switched her interest again to another skill. So are you sure that your child will be really and always interested in what he tell you when you are willing to spend time and money on his or her interest？读的不是很懂

In addition, it's impossible to educate each student by their own needs and interests because we don't have so many teachers and some students' interests may be quaint and difficult to be cultivated. In our education system, no matter how fast the number of teachers is increasing, it can not meet the demand that each student has a teacher. And can you promise that you have the proper method to teach the student who has the eccentric interest like the supernatural thing?

However, it should be admitted that the moderate education according to students' interests will encourage the students become an expert in the field which they are interested in which can not be achieved by only offering the identical courses to all students. Our social(society) needs different experts in different sphere, and we do train the students in different way to meet their own interests and social's needs, that's why our culture, economy, science and technology keep being developed.

In summary, I hold my opinion that effective education should be carried out with the combination of basic courses and some courses relevant to the students' interests rather than only offering the special causes(courses) to different students. Educating individual student on the basis of his or her own needs and interests is an ideal vision which is difficult to come true in real life and to some extent some basic subjects which are necessary must be given to students no matter they like or not since they are useful.

改的不好见量，观点可以似乎再深入一点，就是每个观点再多写点将来希望你也能来拍我的
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