读生物的出路真的那么差么？

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不断地看到一些在美国读生物的人说没前途，对这个行业不熟悉，也不是很确定原因是什么。

看到文章分析生物转学的几条出路，觉得分析的倒是很中肯，读生物的XDJM们看看吧


那些我们所珍惜以及我们所憧憬的---生物学转行面面观


今天得知一个朋友不能继续读了，塞翁失马，焉知非福？在此希望他好运，顺利转行！顺便share一点我对如何转行的看法，希望对大家有用。

1。 “转行的路千千万，关键是你要有决心转”---这是偶一个朋友说的，小子以前生物master,现在上海花旗了。我把它放在第一，是想说，转系是可以计划的，但是世界上没有arbitrage,总会有点万一。没有决心take risk是不成的。至于为啥要转，这里就不说了，外行人不明白，内行人很清楚。

那么到底有几条路呢，真的还是有千千万，这里说说我和我同学研究过考察过的。

上策：

a. 读law, 律师很多人不了解，觉得似乎很难。其实读出来也确实很难，但是申请也不是那么不可及。为什么law好呢，应为法学院每年录取是根据市场的，不会胡乱收人，如果可以去到前14的法学院，前途是很好的。一般出来12万到15万一年的工作是可以找到的。法学院申请也很容易，就看两样LSAT和GPA.推荐性作用不是那么大。 至于entry barrier就是钱，三年要15万左右，就算你可以拿到半奖，第一年就找到实习，第二年就被签掉，由公司帮你给生活费，8万总要有吧。但是毫无疑问，它实行价比最高的。

b. 读牙医，和律师差不多，要考一个专猛地考试。不过牙医可以去加拿大读，然后在美国工作，目前出来也有15万左右，barrier也是开始哪个专业考试，和后来读书用的钱。

中策：

a. 读统计或者生物统计，优点，太容易转了，几乎不打用脑子，出来也能找到工作，就是钱不多，但是总比做博士后好了，缺点，也要自己出钱，很多工作虽然也可以做，不过不是很有前途的。

b. 读michigan的MPH, 优点，容易转，出来几乎都有工作，但是一定要读michigan的，别的不成，要知道为啥，自己研究下拉。缺点，不是很容易搞到钱，但是也是可能找到钱的。公共卫生在美国很热，但是如果你不是md出生，做这个很难上到高位，但是安定的生活是没问题的，工作也比统计会有意思点。

c. 读MFE, MMF,诸如此类的学位，优点是，就目前的市场， quant还是不错的，钱也给得比较多。缺点是毕竟quant市技术活，数学计算机从头学起，不是那么容易。申请还是要费点功夫，要学好也要大力气，要是有这点能力，何不学law?

d.转finance, accouting,有这类master的学校好的不多，比如finance，也是brandies, UIUC, boston college, princeton(这个很难入到），但是如果你可以入到前面我说的学校，出来工作还是没问题的，但是缺点是，要重新考gmat，钱也要准备好，但是半路出家，要想靠这个去到著名投行就难了.

说到这里,就有一个钱的问题, 说到钱,一个是有钱家里出,一个是找美国人帮你cosign, 然后问美国政府贷款

下策：

a. 继续读phd, 以后去到consulting,比如mckinsey.优点是，这个最爽，什么钱都不用花了，最后还是15万一年。缺点是，最爽可不代表5年什么也不用作，其实很多去到人，从读phd第一年就开始准备了，那可是处心积虑阿。如果学校不好，人不是牛强，很难由人承受得了这种risk，万一有个万一，你5年之后还是落空，不知道到时候何去何从？

b. 继续读phd(拿master走人, 工作，以后在读mba，这条路在前辈当中很是多见。一来老一辈人，吃苦耐劳，一般都是读出来以后才有了想法，另外那个时候中国人也没钱，有了想法也不能动手。但是这条路非常浪费时间，而且就算最后读到mba，要知道其实mba也就是一张纸，你最后读好找到的工作很你之前的经历时有很大关系的，如果你之前都是做科研，比起你之前就是做金融的，到底哪个更加容易去到投行咨询就不用我说了吧。

　
说了上中下三策，但是如果你没有钱，又不想走下策，这里还有一条遗策，就是你可以拿了master直接回国内找工作，当然这个必须你得master学校在国内有一定知名度，那么其实去到一些外资银行也不是没有可能，反正他们也是什么人都收的，再不济就去个四大，你可以工作几年，再出去读MBA,但是这条路如何，恐怕是仁者见仁，智者见智啊!

最后我想说，一路走来，觉得还是很辛苦的，无论你用那一策，总有那么多的不确定，总有那么多的无奈，虽然事在人为，但是有的时候我们真的需要一点运气。当年拿到offer那一刻的激动还记忆犹新，只可惜我的梦想只是拿到那个offer,再也没有其他。

有的路不适合自己，是很难勉强得来的。所以大家决定前一定要三思，既不要因为大家都转，而不顾自己的理想。也不要应为畏惧种种麻烦，耽误了自己的前程。大家自求多福吧!

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以下是几个美国生物博士的对话，供读生物的博士参考

博士 A:
I forgot to mention that I am not aware of any such thing as a "post-doc" pipeline. I've done TWO academic post-docs, yet I'm not even CLOSE to wanting to go into academia. I'm 100% wanting to go into pharma to do drug design. That being said, I have been looking for two plus years, and if a post-doc position was offered to me now, I would take it. Does that mean I am doomed to go into academia? No, I'm just being realistic (I am thinking that some of the posters on this board are a little too idealistic or naive, for example some think $44K isn't "enough" to make as a post-doc...I made less than $20K in my current "job" this past year)

博士 B:
A) I was offered an industry postdoc in an area close to where I would eventually like to relocate. It is at a small biotech company and is for 3 years. I probably won't be able to publish but (since I am headed for industry) should I really care? I published very well as a doctoral student (9 medium impact papers like JBC, 6 first authors). Will not doing a postdoc at a big name lab hurt me eventually down the road when I search for a permanent industry job?

B) I also might have the opportunity to do a postdoc at the NIH in Maryland. I would be an employee of SAIC but it would be at the NIH. Would this experience count as industry experience? I would work on a clinically relevant project with the possibility of publishing some higher impact papers.

I know for sure that I do not want to be an academic prof and I am afraid to enter the "postdoc pipline" and be stuck there.



博士 C:
I am currently employed as a Scientist at a Pharmaceutical company, but my husband and I want to relocate and I am looking for a job in a different geographical area of the US. The problem is that I just found out that I am 6 weeks pregnant. I was pregnant a few months ago and let go of a very good job lead, then I lost the pregnancy and the job prospect.

Do you have any advice on how to approach job interviewing while pregnant, do you tell your prospective employer or not? I am definitaly planning on returning to work after 12 weeks of maternity leave. If you tell, how do you tell? What if you are interviewing with morning sickness and you have to take a bathroom break, or a few bathroom breaks in the middle of your presentation or interviews?

Also, employers, how do you really look at pregnant candidates? Is this an issue? I am familiar with the legalities around it, but I do want to go beyond that and establish an honest and trusting relationship with my hiring manager from the start.
博士 D:
You should keep the current job you have and stay where you are. There are some of us out here that would literally kill to have a good job. I have a Ph.D in Biochemistry. and have been working as a cashier for almost two years now, making less than $350 a WEEK.

博士 E:
$44,000 seems very low for a Doc, Maryland. If you are NOT 45 years and older, it would be financially beneficial to become a Pharma Rep. They start at $50,000 -60,000 with no experience, a car,health insurance, bonus or commission. Often with all of the Teamed efforts, many partners main objective is trying to find a place to hide thier car. Most Reps today let someone else do the work while there are really only a few real workers. It truly is a game and mostly how you get along with the other .
博士 F:
In 3 years as a post-doc, I made $30,000, $31,000 and about $33,000 per year. This was only a few years ago.

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早知道这样，开始就直接学金融了

当年高考生物的分数还死高

呵呵，我学的不是生物啊

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o? how about my major? there is no analysis of it.:rolleyes:

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没钱读上策...
剩下几个再慢慢想想..
偶可是从还没上小学就决定长大当生物学家的...
... 没想到竟然这么尴尬...
sigh........
理想和现实之间到底有多远..................................?

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说实话,生物我不懂,但是一窝蜂地钻到金融这个圈子里也是误区.IB又如何?穿的一丝不苟,见了客户跟孙子一样.前几年天天扎在数模里,平均每天睡5小时.进去的都是人精,没有硬后台或圆滑的手段,5年升不上去,就只能拼着老命再熬几年,熬不动了就被人踢出去.各个行业都是围城