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发表于 2007-8-19 14:13:31 |只看该作者 |倒序浏览

下面是我两次签证的经过,就快3000了,请帮忙分析一下,谢谢~~~~

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Me: Nice to meet you, Sir.

VO: (He paid no attention to my regards.)

VO: Put your left finger on the finger print machine.

Me: OK.

VO: The right finger.

Me: Ok. Thank you.

VO: Which university are you going to?

Me: *** University for the MS degree in Financial Math. (a top program in this field)

VO: Which university did you graduate from?

Me: ***

VO: What is your undergraduate major?

Me: Mathematics.

VO: What will you do after graduation?

Me: I will seek a position as a financial analyst or a trader in a leading financial firm such as Goldman Sachs and CICC when I am back to China. My estimated salary will be 300,000 yuan to 500,000 yuan. However, the salary is not the most important thing for me. You know, my parents are both working in this industry. I love finance. I want to do something to improve China’s financial system reform. That will be more interesting for me.

VO: Are you reciting your answer? Memorizing?

Me: No, I just answer the question you asked. (His question is totally out of my expectation. The look on my face might be a little uneasy.)

VO: Would you let me see your household certificate?

Me: Yes, we have two houses. (He looked carefully at the houses’ area amount stated on the house certificates.)

VO: What does father do?

Me: He works in ***. (VO is typing.)

VO: His salary?

Me: About 100,000 yuan per year.

VO: He works here?

Me: No, in the city of ***. He will come to us at weekends. (VO is typing.)

VO: His position?

Me: He is the Head of Office.

VO: Your mother?

Me: She works in *** as General Manager of Dept. Her salary is about 100,000 too. (VO is typing. I didn’t interrupt him to introduce my mother’s another position as Director of HR and income of RMB 20 thousand at ***.)

VO: What department?

Me: *** Department. (VO keeps typing. I was wondering whether to tell him my mother’s another income of RMB 20 thousand at ***. Finally I didn’t do that because I think my parents’ income and position even without RMB 20 thousand has already been good in China, especially when VO have seen my family’s house certificates. Thus, I didn’t interrupt him to emphasize my mom’s another job.)

VO: How long have you worked at your company?

Me: One year.

VO: Your salary?

Me: About 90,000 yuan.

VO: The education is really expensive. It costs 50 thousand dollars for one year, and it is 2 year long. Do you think it is worthwhile? (In fact, I have submitted the introduction of my program including length of time and costs in total to the visa officer before the interview begins. I think he should have read it before the interview starts, so I didn’t expect that he would think the total costs would be 100 thousand dollars.)

Me: Yes. I can receive the best education in financial mathematics at ***. When I come back, with my distinguished education from *** and my experiences in China, I can easily get into a leading financial institution.

VO: What else do you want to let me see?

Me: Here is my deposit certificate.

VO: Ok. (He takes a look at these certificates.)

Me: And this. (I show him my award certificate of an international contest in order to make him feel that I am an excellent student.)

VO: No, this is not what I care about.

Me: Do you want to have a look at my family assets list?

VO: No. What will you do if you do not go to US?

Me: I don’t think you will reject me, because I have a clear study plan and clear career plan, also I have prepared enough money to support my education. If you think anything is not clear, you can point it out, and I can explain to you. (I have a hunch that I would be refused.)

VO: I am sorry that I cannot give you the visa this time. I do not think that the investment is worthwhile. The education is so expensive that your parents’ annual income can not cover it. And, you have little work experiences. I do not think that you can get into such a leading firm…

Me: If you think anything is not clear, I can explain to you. (At that time, I realize that he doesn’t pay attention to my document about my program’s actual costs and length of time. But I am not so sure about the key to save my visa interview.)

VO: No, the interview is over.

Me: Could tell me the reason I get rejected?

VO: You interrupt me just now. I won’t say it again.

Me: Well, thank you all the same. (When I am back to my house, I analyze the reasons for my visa refusal. First, the visa officer took it for mistake that my program costs 100 thousand dollars in total. Secondly, he knew little about the placement of my program, so he doesn’t think I can realize my career goal. Thirdly, even though I showed him my family’s house and deposit certificates, I failed to state my family’s income completely.)

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发表于 2007-8-19 14:14:11 |只看该作者

2000 refused

During the whole process, I kept smiles and eye contacts with the Visa Officer (VO).

Me: Good morning, Sir.

VO: Put your left finger on the finger print machine and then your right finger. (He said that with a smile.)

Me: Ok.

VO: So, you are going to study Financial Mathematics? (He looks at me and asks it with a smile.)

Me: Yes. (I look at him and smile too.)

VO: And your study expense is 50000 dollars?

Me: Yes, and there is a clarification letter from my department. (This time, VO has totally understood my education costs and length of time. 5**** is the exact amount of my prepared fund for the first term stated on I-20.)

VO: What’s your family’s income?

Me: Well, I have an asset list here. You can see my family’s income on the list. (I send the list into the window. VO spent little time on reading it.)

VO: No, I don’t need it. You tell me.

Me: OK. My family’s total income is over 8 thousand dollars.

VO: No, don’t exchange the amount into dollars. You just tell me the amount in RMB. What’s your father’s income?

Me: My father’s income is about RMB 10 thousand.

VO: Your mother?

Me: My mother has two jobs, so she has two positions and two pieces of income. One is at ***. Her salary at *** is about 100,000 RMB. And she has another income of RMB 20 thousand at ***. (Last time, I missed the chance to tell VO about my family’s income completely. Therefore, I want to grasp this chance to make a clear statement.)

VO: How does your mother have the RMB 20 thousand?

Me: She works at *** as the Director of ***.

VO: Is it a part time job?

Me: No. In fact, it is a full-time job.

VO: What about the job at ***? Is it part-time or full-time?

Me: In fact, both are full-time. (I am not sure about which one should be taken as full-time or part-time. I just know for sure that *** is my mother’s forever job, while *** is the one on which she has spent almost all of her work time.)

VO: How can your mother do that?

Me: Because my mother’s first company has a lot of changes in administrative system. So, my mother doesn’t need to deal with daily business or to stay at her office from morning to afternoon, but she can keep her position and her salary. So, my mother accepted the job offer from another company.

VO: Do you mean your mother retired?

Me: No. (The truth is that my mother has the privilege to keep her position and salary even though she does nothing at ***, just because she holds a high administrative position at the age of over 50 years. I know, this policy is hard to understand, but this is the fact at ***.)

VO: She needs to do nothing at ***?

Me: No. She just needn’t do daily business, but she will participate in the most important things.

VO: You didn’t mention it last time.

Me: Yes, I am sorry perhaps I didn’t state it clearly to the visa officer.

VO: It seems to be no sense. Why didn’t you say it last time?

Me: I am sorry not to state it clearly to the visa officer. He asked me my father’s company, my mother’s company, and my company, and then I answered. Maybe I didn’t say that clearly or perhaps the visa officer didn’t give me the chance. I am sorry. (I know the difference between my family’s real income and the records by the 1st interviewer may lead to the 2nd interviewer’s distrust, but I have to tell him the truth completely.)

VO: What will do when you finish your study?

Me: I plan to come back to my current company ***. I will get a position as a Financial Analyst. And my expected salary will be 300,000 to 500,000 RMB per year. So I can cover all the expense within 1 or 2 years. (At the first time, VO doesn’t believe I can get a job at leading financial firms such as GS or CICC, so I feel that it may be an applicable career plan to return to my current company with a desired promotion and a salary increase.)

VO: (He makes no sound and begins to type.)

Me: Here’s an invitation letter from my company. Do you want to see it?

VO: No. (He keeps on typing at his computer.)

Me: House certificates?

VO: No. (He keeps on typing at his computer.)

Me: (I keep silent and wait for him to finish his typing.)

VO: (He sends my I-20 form out of the window and then begins to talk to me with a smile.) I am sorry that I cannot give you the visa this time.

Me: Could you tell me the reason? (At this time, he has sealed my passport, so I have been formally refused.)

VO: Even though that your mother has that income of RMB 20 thousand, I don’t believe you will come back.

Me: I can show you the work certificate. (I think it may be helpful for VO to understand my mother’s income.)

VO: No. (He sends out my passport. The interview is over.)

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板凳
发表于 2007-8-20 16:08:20 |只看该作者
准备很充分啊.
3000肯定过

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发表于 2008-7-9 16:34:29 |只看该作者
这个案例很好。楼主在两次签证都没有很好的展示自己将来的工作能很快挣回这么高昂的学费。只是一个劲的强调资金充足。其实VO最关心的是你自己回来挣钱的能力。

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发表于 2008-7-9 16:51:15 |只看该作者
3000肯定过,lz要有信心

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发表于 2008-7-9 17:02:35 |只看该作者
这个帖子被翻出来真是太有帮助了!不知道lz的3000到底结果如何
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RE: 1000及2000详细签经,请指点,马上3000了 [修改]

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