Argument186-- 0806Gstrive小组第一次作业

mabingkeUID: 2457486

As the director recommended in this argument, the printing company should hire mainly older employees, who are less likely to increase their productivity based on a survey of a automobile factory workers, in order to increase productivity and save money spent on supervisors. This conclusion defies simple logic and suffers from several critical fallacies.

To begin with, lacking of more credible evidence. it makes no sense that employees, most of which are elder workers, can make the productivity increased. As to the assertion that elder workers hardly improve their performance even if the supervisor is present, it is entirely possible that they don't care a high pressure from the supervisor owing to their experiences and prestige as the elderly, rather than their skill is too good to improve anyway. What's more, considering weaker health condition and less active creativity, the elders are likely to have relatively lower productivity compared with the younger ones no matter what the reflection is when supervisor arrives. The absenteeism due to ailment and the coming retirement may even impair the productivity of the company  in a long term. Not until ruling out all these and other possibilities, this argument cannot be free from crucial logical flaws.

In addition, the author assumes that the company would save money because of the reduced need of supervisors. But there is so many invalid points deserving question while no firm evidence to bolster this assumption. Firstly, supervisors in this company cannot be reduced if there are only a few supervisors and their duties concern not employees' productivity but other fields. In this matter, this need can't be cut down by changing employees, let alone saving money. Secondly, even if they could reduce the amount of supervisors, the money spent on compensation for dimissory employees and supervisors and salaries of new employees , as well as a financial risk on whether the productivity can actually be raised or not, may be much more than that before change.

Last but not least, the main evidence in this argument is unconvincing to support the flawed assert. Clearly, a survey based on automobile factory workers cannot be used to analyse the situation of a printing company, for their distinct types of organization and standard of employees. In addition, the result of the study is incomplete if the amount of sample is not abundant enough or the method it used is prejudiced.

Overall, the writer fails to establish any causal relationship between hiring elder employees and the benefit the company gained from increasing productivity and saving money.To make this argument more convincing, the arguer would have to provide more accurate evidence concerning the actual productivity of both young and elder employee in printing company, an scientific evaluation to the worth of supervisors and so on.

[ 本帖最后由 mabingke 于 2008-2-17 17:24 编辑 ]

sharkliverUID: 2308154

As the director recommended in this argument, the printing company should hire mainly older employees, who are less likely to increase their productivity based on a survey of a automobile factory workers, in order to increase productivity and save money spent on supervisors. This conclusion defies simple logic and suffers from several critical fallacies.

To begin with, the survey is lacking of more credible evidence. it makes no sense that employees, most of which are elder workers, can make the productivity increased 这句话什么意思啊，不太明白. As to the assertion that elder workers hardly improve their performance even if the supervisor is present, it is entirely possible that they don't care a high pressure from the supervisor owing to their experiences and prestige as the elderly, rather than their skill is too good to improve anyway. What's more, considering weaker health condition and less active creativity, the elders are likely to have relatively lower productivity compared with the younger ones no matter what the reflection is when supervisor arrives. The absenteeism due to ailment and the coming retirement may even impair the productivity of the company  in a long term. Not until ruling out all these and other possibilities, this argument cannot be free from crucial logical flaws. 这一段我看的糊里糊涂的。我觉得逻辑错误应该首先明确的指出，而不是先批判。应该是这个顺序: Xxx并不能证明xxx，因为没有考虑xxx情况，而且还有可能有xxx这样的例外，所以论者是错的

In addition, the author assumes that the company would save money because of the reduced need of supervisors. But there is so many invalid points deserving question while no firm evidence to bolster this assumption. Firstly, supervisors in this company cannot be reduced if there are only a few supervisors and their duties concern not employees' productivity but other fields 应该是not only, but also吧. In this matter, this need can't be cut down by changing employees, let alone saving money. Secondly, even if they could reduce the amount of supervisors, the money spent on compensation for dimissory employees and supervisors and salaries of new employees , as well as a financial risk on whether the productivity can actually be raised or not, may be much more than that before change.

Last but not least, the main evidence in this argument is unconvincing to support the flawed assert. Clearly, a survey based on automobile factory workers cannot be used to analyse the situation of a printing company, for their distinct types of organization and standard of employees. In addition, the result of the study is incomplete if the amount of sample is not abundant enough or the method it used is prejudiced.

Overall, the writer fails to establish any causal relationship between hiring elder employees and the benefit the company gained from increasing productivity and saving money.To make this argument more convincing, the arguer would have to provide more accurate evidence concerning the actual productivity of both young and elder employee in printing company, an scientific evaluation to the worth of supervisors and so on.

主要的问题我感觉是批驳的顺序和思路问题，楼主写的我感觉有点乱。这道题以我的习惯来讲，是这个批判顺序：1.survey背景，就是代表性，可靠性问题。2,即使Survey本身没问题，Survey给出的数据问题，或者数据不能说明结论。3. 即使survey都很对，推广问题，然后就是利润问题。  建议楼主多看看范文，分析下别人的成熟套路，写之前能够形成批驳的思路，不要想到哪条写哪条。

Argument我也刚刚开始研究，这篇也是第一篇，自己肯定也有很多问题，我的建议楼主看看即可….而且这个思路问题仁者见仁，说不定美国人觉得楼主思路很对胃口呢～呵呵

sharkliverUID: 2308154

看来这个思路是个问题啊，呵呵。我们两个都看不惯对方的。