大家来讨论下UBC 和ut的MLA

xiaoyesong2009UID: 2622496

收到ubc 和 ut 的MLA，不知道哪家的MLA更值得去，（在不考虑学费因素的前提下）？他们的设计倾向如何（特别是ut）？出来工作好找吗？谢谢各位啦

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ut偏规划，fridrick sterner是景观规划大牛

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有已经在ut或ubc读书的前辈来说说吗 呼呼

dison2005UID: 2318411

忘了注明。。。ut 不是texas是u of Toronto

qiaoxingUID: 2238462

UT在加拿大口碑一般。McGill会好一点...校舍方面，两个都蛮小的...个人感觉McGill在北美的承认度更高。

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5# qiaoxing
不过mcgill可没MLA啊

choiUID: 2134496

UT在加拿大口碑一般。McGill会好一点...校舍方面，两个都蛮小的...个人感觉McGill在北美的承认度更高。
qiaoxing 发表于 2009-3-29 18:58

UT 在加拿大口碑一般？？？？ 那你肯定不在加拿大。

校舍？ 两个都蛮小？ 你查一下google map才说小还是不小吧。McGill 有la ? 啥时候成立的阿， 没听说过哦。arch倒还挺出名的。

个人意见：

选校： UBC 偏生态sustainable design, U of T 偏城市多吧。 学费，U of T 多一点。

选城市， vancouver, 海，雪山， 森林， 气候， 绝对优胜toronto, 但是城市规模相对较小，没那么热闹， LA firm也比toronto那边少。
不过toronto 那边有u of t 和 guelph 两间学校，三届毕业学生 guelph 有(BLA, MLA) 一起抢饭碗。

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LA?
UBC not UCB

choiUID: 2134496

yes LA,
yes UBC , not UCB

xiaoyesong2009UID: 2622496

唔 其实我也收到了Guelph的MLA录取 不过不大打算去了

choiUID: 2134496

The letter is from my friend , he is currently studing at U of T, second year MLA program, he spent a year at UBC and then transfered to U of T, (I guess it was because of his girlfriend moving back to Toronto. :) )

The first thing your friend needs to do is look up Charles Waldheim, James Corner (Field Operations Inc.), Kongjian Yu (Turenscape), Michael Van Valkenburgh, and Landscape Urbanism.  The program here is focused on larger scale issues and problems and how they can be addressed with landscape interventions.  There is less detail design and site design (in the first and second year there is almost none, but I'm not sure about the third).  It is not so focused on plants but it is more about all of the parts of landscape, soil, water, topography, and plants.  I think it is very similar to the course we took with Will Marsh (UBC professor) on environmental landscape planning, but without as much detail (The people here are not as knowledgeable as Will Marsh about how systems work, but still, UofT focuses on systems for their designs).  The biggest fault of UofT is that they do not focus as much on how things actually work and how they can (of IF they can) be built.  They are much more concerned about an idea, and not so much about the construction processes that change and shape the world.  Some people like that but I think UofT suffers sometimes because they aren't able to take a big idea and apply it at a human scale.  UBC is the opposite.  At least for me, I learned how to take an idea and make it take a shape on the ground, give it a character, make it usable.  The systems approach is similar between the two schools (both are concerned about stormwater systems, plant and animal communities, all of those Will Marsh things) so that's the same.  Overall I think UofT tackles more important issues, but UBC actually cares about how to make things happen.  If you ask me, I think it does no good to just come up with ideas all the time if the implementation and human qualities of the idea are not considered.  In the end, everything we design is done for people, so UofT needs to think more about how people's needs and wants influence the design.  UBC needs to add some larger-scale thinking to their program.  I would guess that UBC needs to think of the Landscape Architect as the next/better kind of planner, someone who is able to address the big picture.  It is difficult to do both (address the big picture issues, and address a human-scale world), which is why I'm glad I did both.  (he is from urban planning in undergraduate)


City life is different.  Picture what UBC would be like if it was around Granville Island (really close to downtown, and near an artsy funky area).  You have all the benefits of being around city amenities but at UBC you had the benefits of being separated (UBC is seperated by a  forest and surrounded by the sea).  The UBC campus has more amenities and things to do (but that's because they are like a little separate city).  It's basically like Granville Island compared to Point Grey (UBC所在地).  

Future career is difficult to tell.  There is definitely more of an architect-type culture at UofT, more late nights, crazier deadlines, more stress, but only if you let yourself get into that culture.  UBC is more laid back but not much more.  The workload is the same.  Same amount of production for the end of studio, same amount of panels and models.  But UofT is more of the competitive, get rich, get famous, write lots of books, do design that gets your name in the newspaper.  UBC is more about doing things that make sense without as much concern about fame and fortune.

Trust me, it's a very difficult decision (I couldn't even decide, that's why I did both haha)

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toronto有waldheim啊！

xiaoyesong2009UID: 2622496

12# choi 非常感谢！真详细啊

xiaoyesong2009UID: 2622496

13# 最後の使徒 他很牛吗？呵呵 我在哈佛的讲座名单上看到过他

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前几天在系图看了个UT做的小册子 STUDIO还是蛮有意思的 不过学生水平参差不齐 里面三个组做的PROJECT明显不在一个LEVEL 上