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发表于 2009-6-11 12:39:50 |显示全部楼层
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发表于 2009-6-11 12:40:09 |显示全部楼层
分析:
Conclusion:
To combat the recently reported dramatic rise in cheating among college and university students, these institutions should adopt honor codes similar to Groveton's,
Reason:
in the first year it was in place, students reported twenty-one cases of cheating; five years later, this figure had dropped to fourteen. Moreover, in a recent survey conducted by the Groveton honor council, a majority of students said that they would be less likely to cheat with an honor code in place than without.
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1 只是比较每年作弊的人数,这样不科学,可能每届的学生数量不一样,考试的数目不一样,学生的情况不一样,这样,造成可能人数少,但其实比例很大。
2 就算真的作弊情况好转了,是不是由于adopt honor codes这个原因也不确定。
3 作者建议别的学校也adopt honor codes,但是适不适用别的学校并不确定。

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发表于 2009-6-11 12:40:27 |显示全部楼层
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        In this editorial, the author suggests that the college and university should adopt honor codes similar to Groveton’s to combat the recently reported dramatic rise in cheating among their students. To support this conclusion, the author points out that in the first year, the honor codes replaced the old-fashioned system, students reported twenty-one cases of cheating, and five years later, this figure had dropped to fourteen. Besides, the author also cites a survey in which a majority of students said that they would be less likely to cheat with an honor code in place than without.
        First and foremost, the dropping number of the cases of cheating can’t conclude that the cheating is less, but just the number of the cases of cheating is less. The author assumes that during the five years, all the conditions at Groveton remained unchanged. Such conditions include the number of Groveton students and the number of the tests. After five years it is entirely possible that these conditions have changed, the number of students and test is maybe dropping too. So the rate of cheating doesn’t drop, or even increase. Thus, without ruling out such alternative explanations for the reported decrease, the author can’t convince me that the cheating is less.
        However, even the cheating is less, the reason of it maybe isn’t the adopting honor codes. Some other changes also happend in these years, such as the overall integrity of the student, the moral of the students, and so on. After five years it is entirely possible that these condition have changed, and that the reported decrease in cheating is attributable to one or more such changes. Thus, the author cannot conclude that the honor code has in fact contributed to a decline in the incidence of cheating at Groveton.
        Finally, the author’s recommendation that other college follow Groveton’s example depends on the additional assumption that Groveton is typical in ways relevant to the incidence of cheating. However, this is not necessarily the case. For instance, perhaps Groveton students are more or less likely to report cheating, or to cheat under an honor system, than typical college students. Lacking evidence that Groveton students are typical in these respects, the argument is indefensible.
        In conclusion, to persuade me that other colleges should adopt an honor code in order to reduce cheating, the author must supply clear evidence that cheating at Groveton in fact decreased., and that it is the honor code that was responsible for the decrease..

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发表于 2009-6-11 12:41:45 |显示全部楼层
感觉分析argu现在可以了,可是自己语言方面还有欠缺,在学习北美的语言,还想在看看economics来提高自己,就是时间不够用啊。。。呵呵,挤吧。。。

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发表于 2009-6-12 11:07:35 |显示全部楼层
In this editorial, the author suggests that the college and university should adopt honor codes similar to Groveton’s to combat the recently reported dramatic rise in cheating among their students. To support this conclusion, the author points out that in the first year, the honor codes replaced the old-fashioned system, students reported twenty-one cases of cheating, and five years later, this figure had dropped to fourteen. Besides, the author also cites a survey in which a majority of students said that they would be less likely to cheat with an honor code in place than without.(根据你的第一段,列出两个逻辑错误)
        First and foremost, the dropping number of the cases of cheating can’t conclude that the cheating is less, but just the number of the cases of cheating is less. The author assumes that during the five years, all the conditions at Groveton remained unchanged. Such conditions include the number of Groveton students and the number of the tests. After five years it is entirely possible that these conditions have changed, the number of students and test is maybe dropping too. So the rate of cheating doesn’t drop, or even increase. Thus, without ruling out such alternative explanations for the reported decrease, the author can’t convince me that the cheating is less.
        However, even the cheating is lesscheating能减少?是the number of cheating吧?), the reason of it maybe isn’t the adopting honor codes. Some other changes also happend in these years, such as the overall integrity of the student, the moral of the students, and so on. After five years it is entirely possible that these condition have changed, and that the reported decrease in cheating is attributable to one or more such changes. Thus, the author cannot conclude that the honor code has in fact contributed to a decline in the incidence of cheating at Groveton.(这两段是对in the first year…………five years later 这个逻辑错误点的攻击,还是两段分别攻击了两个逻辑错误,一个是案例减少不代表作弊减少,一个是麽有考虑5年发生地变化? 如果是对第一个逻辑错误攻击,是不是应该放在一段或者说的更明显?如果是属于对两个错误攻击,那么和你的第一段总结是不是不对应?)

        Finally, the author’s recommendation that other college follow Groveton’s example depends on the additional assumption that Groveton is typical in ways relevant to the incidence of cheating. However, this is not necessarily the case. For instance, perhaps Groveton students are more or less likely to report cheating, or to cheat under an honor system, than typical college students. Lacking evidence that Groveton students are typical in these respects, the argument is indefensible.(你第一段的总结第二个逻辑错误是说调查不合理,但是你这一段貌似攻击的不是这一点,首尾不照应)
        In conclusion, to persuade me that other colleges should adopt an honor code in order to reduce cheating, the author must supply clear evidence that cheating at Groveton in fact decreased., and that it is the honor code that was responsible for the decrease..

我这两天看了一篇对于a开头的研究,是对北美范文,ets官方范文和rater评语的研究,意思是不赞成第一段对逻辑点进行一一列述,很可能造成错误,一般这样的文章只有4分,当然也有高分。具体这边文章的网址是什么我忘了,但是在寄托上。你如果要看的话我qq传你
另外你的思维不严密,一定要有层次感,起码首尾照应,不能驴头不对马嘴
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