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组长这两天貌似消失了~但是作文不能停!所以我先越俎代庖下~
40"Scholars and researchers should not be concerned with whether their work makes a contribution to the larger society. It is more important that they pursue their individual interests, however unusual or idiosyncratic those interests may seem."

212"If a goal is worthy, then any means taken to attain it is justifiable."
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TOPIC: ISSUE212 - "If a goal is worthy, then any means taken to attain it is justifiable."
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From our very deeply inside, it is human nature that imposes us to fight for the goals and pursue our dreams. Some are successful, but more fade together with their dreams. Not surprisingly, few have obtained their achievements through certain dark deals, but the real respectable way to acquire the goal should never go against the values upon which human society relies on.

Admittedly, we have an intensive desire to better our life and thus we set a lot of goals. But before working hard for our targets, people should assess their goals in the first place, no matter which are so fascinating or not. Are they against the social moral and ethics? Or would they damage others' interests that are protected by the laws? Only by asking ourselves these questions could we be able to avoid being misled by our complex desires and emotions: love, joy, sorrow, hatred, jealousy, lust, and so forth. Take this financial crisis for instance. Driven by greed, managers from the Wall Street have taken advantages of the loopholes of laws and regulations: unlike the “deserving” rich entrepreneurs who set up Microsoft or Google, the “undeserving” traders or brokers just shuffled money around the system to nobody’s profits but their own. Little wonders that they have played too much and gone across the line. Together with their pelf, an economic crisis is sweeping over almost every country from all over the world. On no account could we justify their disreputable dealings. Just as Barack Obama, the President of the United States said:"We could not afford to have a prosperous Wall Street while the main streets are suffering." Indeed, homes have been lost, jobs shed, and business shuttered. These brokers, no matter how wealthy or cozy life they are living now, could hardly be condoned by the mass people for they have hurt them so deeply.

On the contrary, when one is to pursue for truth, virtue, and beauty, he or she should spare no efforts to attain it. Think of the financial crisis once again. In face of the economy marsh, all the entangling people and the nations should get rid of their discords and cooperate together in order to weather this storm. Picking ourselves up, dusting ourselves off, no matter how difficult the road unfolds before us, we should never let our unyielding hope and persistent work vanish. Furthermore, sometimes the pursuit of good requires sacrifice. To fight for the peace, countless people lost their lives in the War World II. Being seemingly ugly, war can be justifiable, when it is for the long-run development of human beings and fighting against the zealots of anti-humanity.

Nevertheless, even though the goal is just, one should not choose an unjust way to get to it. What is meant by this is that the way to the destination should not interfere with others’ virtuous goals. The lessons of Japan could best exemplify such statement. Natural resources being scarce, this country concentrated on strengthening its military power which could serve it to conquer other nations and harry their resources. Undoubtedly, the mean action undermined the interests of other nations; Japan, on the wrong side of the history, consequently was defeated by all the pacifists, which deserved all the punishments.

Taking into account what has been discussed above before setting out to fight for our goals, we should first make sure that we are aiming to a rightful destination. Based on that, trying hard thought a decent and fair way is what we should always persist.
SOC绝对是个减肥给力的好去处~

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组长最近很蹉跎,弟子们要好好努力啊!

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组长最近很蹉跎,弟子们要好好努力啊!
wk4a 发表于 2009-8-8 12:33

你干嘛去了啊?
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TOPIC: ISSUE40 - "Scholars and researchers should not be concerned with whether their work makes a contribution to the larger society. It is more important that they pursue their individual interests, however unusual or idiosyncratic those interests may seem."
WORDS: 533          TIME: 00:52:36+10min(棕色部分)          DATE: 2009-8-8 11:11:27

Retrospect to human history, dazzling innovations and discoveries have added fuel to our society. Ironically, many scholars and researchers were not intended to push on the society in the first place; instead they just follow their own interest and curiosity.

Indeed, it is not simple to make a judgment if an invention or discovery would make contributions to society or not; in reality, researchers and scientists even cannot make sure whether they would get to success. Many discoveries were even made by accident. The discovery of penicillin can vividly exemplify this statement. Its discoverer, Flemming had no idea what the substance was in his laboratory at first. It was not until he found that such material could act as antiseptic that penicillin became widely used in the world and have saved countless lives. Same things went with the discovery of X-ray. Many occasional or fantastic researches may have profound effects on the progress of the society or the bliss of human beings. Now we may understand why Bill Gates has set up a foundation to sponsor some seemingly “ludicrous” scientific projects.

Furthermore, concentrating on achieving a huge success and making contributions may constrain one's gifts or talents. It is very possible that he or she could hardly focus on his or her researches with so many desires. Sometimes a strong willingness would produce counterproductive effects. Then consequently, instead of making contributions, scientists may not reach anything but disappointment. On the contrary, if driven by their own curiosity, scholars could best exploit their brilliant gifts and fantastic imagination. Thus they could be much more effective and efficient. Interests play an indispensible role in scientific fields, which would give scientists enduring power and promote them to go further. Take one mathematician for instance. ChenJingrun who had an intensive interest in mathematics, spent days and nights in front of his table and forgot to eat or sleep, calculating, deducing, and testifying. Finally, he nearly proved the Goldbach’s conjecture to be right. Undoubtedly, thanks for his efforts, he push the research of number theory forward. But notice, from the very beginning, he barely thought of the "fame" or "contributions" stuff; he just followed his mind and his intuition.

Nevertheless, no matter how intensive the interests are, one should stick to the principle that their curiosity should not have the potential to undermine the whole society. Otherwise, one should immediately stop his research. Failing to have a rightful direction, more Frankensteins would emerge in the scientific fields. What if some day we suddenly encounter with someone else who identifies us and tell us that he or she is one of our cloning? What if some day time becomes vague or still and our dead grandfather stand in front of us without any warning? What if one day our Mother Earth is completely destroyed by nuclear weapons invented by ourselves and no lives survive? Surely, we do not want any of these scenarios come true.

Taking into account what has been discussed above driven by their curiosity and interests, scholars and researchers can go further in their work. But in the first place, they should assess their interests to ensure them will not bring perils to the larger society.
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212写了在寝室里放着,晚上回去了再贴上来

TOPIC: ISSUE40 - "Scholars and researchers should not be concerned with whether their work makes a contribution to the larger society. It is more important that they pursue their individual interests, however unusual or idiosyncratic those interests may seem."

WORDS: 480          TIME: 02:00:00          DATE: 2009-8-8 13:42:33

1.大部分学者的研究资金来自社会和国家,不关心创造社会价值是不负责任的。
2.当然,科学研究最重要的动力是兴趣,要把兴趣和创造价值结合起来。这样有利于科研。
3.很多时候人们并不知道自己的研究会有什么社会价值,比如电脑,所以可以按照兴趣来走,但是这不是说忽视为社会服务这样的思考前提。

Both practical applications and personal interests are significant reasons for scholars and researchers to conduct their experiments and researches for the profound contributions they offer to the society and endless pleasure to themselves. There is no necessity to discuss which of the two elements is more vital, but great benefit about how to combine them.

Generally, most scholars and researchers receive their funds from public organizations and government, namely all the tax payers. It would be irresponsible for them to exclude the society needs while financially supported by it. A society, for example, with serious unemployment, has to take care of issues of people who are out job. What would it be at such an urgent time if all the socialists and economists ignore the emergency while research problems like urban design or city greening programs according to their own interests? The society would inevitably encounter more problems as some jobless people find illegal means to make a living. Since tax payers have paid scientists to help maintain the balance of the society, they have rights to require a contribution received from scholars and researchers.

Without doubt, the best motive force is one's interest when doing difficult and arduous scientific researches. And it is even better to effectively combining one's interest and social needs in order to fulfill personal achievement and lead financial support to a virtuous circle. Social demands and researchers' own interest are never contraries. For example, the great Wright brothers, who created the first plane in the world, were simply trying to realize their dream aroused from childhood. The brilliant brothers also anticipated the possible impact on the whole transportation system afterwards. After that, they founded the Wright plane company which worth millions of dollar. Without ambition and interest, Wright brothers could never create the first plane; without the contribution they made for society, it is not possible to develop their dream to a giant company.

Actually, people may have no clue about whether a new discovery or invention has a social significance at the first moment. The best way, in most circumstances, is to follow one's own interest. But this never indicates that any scientific research can ignore social demands. Instead, the requirement from society should be always kept in scientists' minds. Many interesting inventions are only results as people try to entertain themselves or satisfy curiosity, but out of expectation, to have changed the world. People in ancient time had no idea about what is like on the side of the ocean, nor did not know what may be found on the moon decades ago, but we just want to explore and firmly believe such research would make some contributions.

It is the curiosity and interest that drive people work hard to find one and another truth, and the followed contributions are results delicately concern about social issues. Together, they offer us a better world.

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发表于 2009-8-8 15:19:29 |只看该作者
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TOPIC: ISSUE212 - "If a goal is worthy, then any means taken to attain it is justifiable."
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From our very deeply inside, it is human nature (中间家加点性格词汇来说明前面的inside)that imposes us to fight for the goals and pursue our dreams. Some are successful, but more fade together with their dreams. Not surprisingly, few have obtained their achievements through certain dark deals, but the real respectable way to acquire the goal should never go against the values upon which human society relies on.
是不是可以把respectable way去掉?因为我可以反驳说我不考虑这个,只要worthy就好。the value也太模糊了。
不过这些都是小细节了。

Admittedly, we have an intensive desire to better our life and thus we set a lot of goals. But before working hard for our targets, people should assess(没有限定词,所以评价标准很模糊,最好有一个概括后面得形容词来修饰) their goals in the first place, no matter which are so fascinating or not. Are they against the social moral and ethics? Or would they damage others' interests that are protected by the laws? Only by asking ourselves these questions could we be able to avoid being misled by our complex desires and emotions: love, joy, sorrow, hatred, jealousy, lust, and so forth. Take this financial crisis for instance(虽然我不懂金融危机,但是都归咎到wall street?). Driven by greed, managers from the Wall Street have taken advantages of the loopholes of laws(学得不要太快了点啊) and regulations: unlike the “deserving” rich entrepreneurs who set up Microsoft or Google, the “undeserving” traders or brokers just shuffled money around the system to nobody’s profits but their own. Little wonders that they have played too much and gone across the line. Together with their pelf, an economic crisis is sweeping over almost every country from all over the world. On no account could we justify their disreputable dealings. Just as Barack Obama, the President of the United States said:"We could not afford to have a prosperous Wall Street while the main streets are suffering." Indeed, homes have been lost, jobs shed, and business shuttered. These brokers, no matter how wealthy or cozy life they are living now, could hardly be condoned by the mass people for they have hurt them so deeply..
这一段说理和我写的思路是一样的,但是论证和说理大大超过我的豆腐干啊。例子和解释结合的很好,条理也没丢。

On the contrary, when one is to pursue for truth, virtue, and beauty, he or she should spare no efforts to attain it. Think of the financial crisis once again. In face of the economy marsh, all the entangling people and the nations should get rid of their discords and cooperate together in order to weather this storm. Picking ourselves up, dusting ourselves off, no matter how difficult the road unfolds before us, we should never let our unyielding hope and persistent work vanish. (文采太好了,不过呼唤式的语句要谨慎,据说不讨好)Furthermore, sometimes the pursuit of good requires sacrifice. To fight for the peace, countless people lost their lives in the War World II. Being seemingly ugly, war can be justifiable, when it is for the long-run development of human beings and fighting against the zealots of anti-humanity.
个人认为本题目的复杂性在于讨论种种不好的手段是否可以被接受,所以明显的正当的方法可以一笔带过。

Nevertheless, even though the goal is just, one should not choose an unjust way to get to it.是不是和第一主段重复了? What is meant by this is(chinglish?) that the way to the destination should not interfere with others’ virtuous goals. The lessons of Japan could best exemplify such statement. Natural resources being scarce, this country concentrated on strengthening its military power which could serve it to conquer other nations and harry their resources. Undoubtedly, the mean action undermined the interests of other nations; Japan, on the wrong side of the history, consequently was defeated by all the pacifists, which deserved all the punishments.

Taking into account what has been discussed above before setting out to fight for our goals, we should first make sure that we are aiming to a rightful destination. Based on that, trying hard thought a decent and fair way is what we should always persist.

语言基本定型了,再差也不会差到哪里去了,就是逻辑很飘忽,个人认为这个题目的逻辑不清晰。

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我的逻辑是
目标要正当,(主体一二段分别论述不正当和正当)
即使目标正当,方式也要公平(主体第三段)

文采方面研究了两天奥巴马的东西~现学的~后面写的就不行了~
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我的逻辑是
目标要正当,(主体一二段分别论述不正当和正当)
即使目标正当,方式也要公平(主体第三段)

文采方面研究了两天奥巴马的东西~现学的~后面写的就不行了~
emily_feifei 发表于 2009-8-8 15:25



题目主题是问means justifiable啊,我觉得和目标关系有,但是不是重点。
关键是能否不择手段去获得有价值的母的。

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TOPIC: ISSUE40 - "Scholars and researchers should not be concerned with whether their work makes a contribution to the larger society. It is more important that they pursue their individual interests, however unusual or idiosyncratic those interests may seem."

WORDS: 480  会不会太少啊        TIME: 02:00:00          DATE: 2009-8-8 13:42:33

1.大部分学者的研究资金来自社会和国家,不关心创造社会价值是不负责任的。(这点我没想过诶)
2.当然,科学研究最重要的动力是兴趣,要把兴趣和创造价值结合起来。这样有利于科研。
3.很多时候人们并不知道自己的研究会有什么社会价值,比如电脑,所以可以按照兴趣来走,但是这不是说忽视为社会服务这样的思考前提。

Both practical applications and personal interests are significant reasons for scholars and researchers to conduct their experiments and researches for the profound contributions they offer to the society and endless pleasure to themselves. There is no necessity to discuss which of the two elements is more vital, but great benefit about how to combine them.

Generally, most scholars and researchers receive their funds from public organizations and government, namely all the tax payers. It would be irresponsible for them to exclude the society needs while financially supported by it. A society, for example, with serious unemployment, has to take care of issues of people who are out job. What would it be at such an urgent time if all the socialists and economists ignore the emergency while research problems like urban design or city greening programs according to their own interests? The society would inevitably encounter more problems as some jobless people find illegal means to make a living. Since tax payers have paid scientists to help maintain the balance of the society, they have rights to require a contribution received from scholars and researchers.(逻辑点不错,就是例子的力度感觉弱了点。)

Without doubt, the best motive force is one's interest when doing difficult and arduous scientific researches.(后面呢?才说了一个best force就来even better了~任何支撑论据。) And it is even better to effectively combining one's interest and social needs in order to fulfill personal achievement and lead financial support to a virtuous circle. Social demands and researchers' own interest are never contraries.(谓语不好用are吧,用should是不是好点。用are表示既成事实啊。) For example, the great Wright brothers, who created the first plane in the world, were simply trying to realize their dream aroused from childhood. The brilliant brothers also anticipated the possible impact on the whole transportation system afterwards. After that, they founded the Wright plane company which worth millions of dollar. Without ambition and interest, Wright brothers could never create the first plane; without the contribution they made for society, it is not possible to develop their dream to a giant company.

Actually,(每段的开头跟我风格很像的~) people may have no clue about whether a new discovery or invention has a social significance at the first moment. The best way, in most circumstances, is to follow one's own interest. But this never indicates that any scientific research can ignore social demands. Instead, the requirement from society should be always kept in scientists' minds. Many interesting inventions are only results as people try to entertain themselves or satisfy curiosity, but out of expectation, to have changed the world. People in ancient time had no idea about what is like on the side of the ocean, nor did not know what may be found on the moon decades ago, but we just want to explore and firmly believe such research would make some contributions.(光believe有啥用啊~用事实说话——焦点访谈)

It is the curiosity and interest that drive people work hard to find one and another truth, and the followed contributions are results delicately concern about social issues. Together, they offer us a better world.
SOC绝对是个减肥给力的好去处~

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题目主题是问means justifiable啊,我觉得和目标关系有,但是不是重点。
关键是能否不择手段去获得有价值的母的。
wk4a 发表于 2009-8-8 15:35


首先if the goal is worthy~这句就该扁~一个目标是应该先评价下正不正当才能考虑其worthy不worthy,一个不正当的目标,再fascinating也没用~这是我的想法~
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TOPIC: ISSUE40 - "Scholars and researchers should not be concerned with whether their work makes a contribution to the larger society. It is more important that they pursue their individual interests, however unusual or idiosyncratic those interests may seem."

WORDS: 480  会不会太少啊        TIME: 02:00:00          DATE: 2009-8-8 13:42:33

1.大部分学者的研究资金来自社会和国家,不关心创造社会价值是不负责任的。(这点我没想过诶)
2.当然,科学研究最重要的动力是兴趣,要把兴趣和创造价值结合起来。这样有利于科研。
3.很多时候人们并不知道自己的研究会有什么社会价值,比如电脑,所以可以按照兴趣来走,但是这不是说忽视为社会服务这样的思考前提。

Both practical applications and personal interests are significant reasons for scholars and researchers to conduct their experiments and researches for the profound contributions they offer to the society and endless pleasure to themselves. There is no necessity to discuss which of the two elements is more vital, but great benefit about how to combine them.

Generally, most scholars and researchers receive their funds from public organizations and government, namely all the tax payers. It would be irresponsible for them to exclude the society needs while financially supported by it. A society, for example, with serious unemployment, has to take care of issues of people who are out job. What would it be at such an urgent time if all the socialists and economists ignore the emergency while research problems like urban design or city greening programs according to their own interests? The society would inevitably encounter more problems as some jobless people find illegal means to make a living. Since tax payers have paid scientists to help maintain the balance of the society, they have rights to require a contribution received from scholars and researchers.(逻辑点不错,就是例子的力度感觉弱了点。)你介绍个具体的国家给我吧,我这方面基本上想不出来

Without doubt, the best motive force is one's interest when doing difficult and arduous scientific researches.(后面呢?才说了一个best force就来even better了~任何支撑论据。) 这句话通吗?我是想写个递进。And it is even better to effectively combining one's interest and social needs in order to fulfill personal achievement and lead financial support to a virtuous circle. Social demands and researchers' own interest are never contraries.(谓语不好用are吧,用should是不是好点。用are表示既成事实啊。) 这个倒是are好点吧,看着像定理公式一样。For example, the great Wright brothers, who created the first plane in the world, were simply trying to realize their dream aroused from childhood. The brilliant brothers also anticipated the possible impact on the whole transportation system afterwards. After that, they founded the Wright plane company which worth millions of dollar. Without ambition and interest, Wright brothers could never create the first plane; without the contribution they made for society, it is not possible to develop their dream to a giant company.

Actually,(每段的开头跟我风格很像的~)你的和我的也很像。 people may have no clue about whether a new discovery or invention has a social significance at the first moment. The best way, in most circumstances, is to follow one's own interest. But this never indicates that any scientific research can ignore social demands. Instead, the requirement from society should be always kept in scientists' minds. Many interesting inventions are only results as people try to entertain themselves or satisfy curiosity, but out of expectation, to have changed the world. People in ancient time had no idea about what is like on the side of the ocean, nor did not know what may be found on the moon decades ago, but we just want to explore and firmly believe such research would make some contributions.(光believe有啥用啊~用事实说话——焦点访谈)我找了半个小时例子…………………………

It is the curiosity and interest that drive people work hard to find one and another truth, and the followed contributions are results delicately concern about social issues. Together, they offer us a better world.


给点例子吧……对了,你那个朝鲜的视频叫什么来着?

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本帖最后由 lele77521 于 2009-8-8 17:00 编辑

40"Scholars and researchers should not be concerned with whether their work makes a contribution to the larger society. It is more important that they pursue their individual interests, however unusual or idiosyncratic those interests may seem."
我们不应该仅仅关注学者和研究者的著作能否对社会做出贡献。更重要的是关注他们如何追求实现自己的兴趣,无论那些兴趣显得是多么的非同寻常。(少数和多数之科学家)

I partially agree with the author's assertion that it is justifiable to pursuing one's interest, however unusual or idiosyncratic it may seem. They should not be concerned with whether their outcomes make contribution to the whole society. In my opinion, it is human nature to pursue what they love. However, one should also consider the social value from some other angles, such as economy or philosophy.

Each of us has our own interests and dreams, which is the driving force in our life. History never lacks examples of talents who pursue their personal interest. Take the Wright brothers as an example, they dreamed of one day they can fly in the sky like birds, which seemed like a crazy idea at that time. But it is their “unrealistic” dream which made the world smaller, and brought people closer together. Perhaps they had never thought they have the duty to devote themselves to their society, but they invented the airplane for in order to finish their dream. Similar examples can be seen in many fields, one of the most famous economists, Keynes who was major in mathematics, but he was interested in economics and creates his famous classical work we briefly called ‘General Theory’, which still play an indispensible role in solving the latest economic crisis. To some extent, individuals who work for their interest or dream may create outstanding accomplishment, because they will spare no efforts to realize their solitary goal. Although they may not consider what benefits they can bring to the other people or then whole society, they make contribution to humankinds in their own practical way.

Under some circumstance, however, individuals should consider their social value in the process of realizing their unusual interests. From the economic angle, it is apparently in modern field of scientific research for the reason that many problems were not simply than ever before. In the past, one may tackle a problem by oneself with little economic cost. But it is totally a different case in nowadays. Most of professors need fund from private company or government to finish their research, under this circumstance; no one wants to invest money on researches with little social value. From the moral level, although those scholars who are interested in the Nuclear Weapon will satisfy their curiosity about high technology, people who love peace will not consider they make contribution to humankinds.   

In sum, scholars should go on to pursue their interest like ever before. On the one hand, they should consider its social value whether in long-term or in short-term. Otherwise, they can hardly finish their research which needs relative high cost. On the other hand, they should obey the basic moral standard and realize their dream.

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发表于 2009-8-8 17:01:54 |只看该作者
首先if the goal is worthy~这句就该扁~一个目标是应该先评价下正不正当才能考虑其worthy不worthy,一个不正当的目标,再fascinating也没用~这是我的想法~
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哦,对哦,good point,似乎很容易忽视。不过我有一点担心的就是者前半句是默认的前提,攻击的话后面有点乱了。就是既然目标都不好了,手段也就没有必要谈,而如果目标是好的话,就是worthy咯,再展开讨论。不过有这个必要否?

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哦,对哦,good point,似乎很容易忽视。不过我有一点担心的就是者前半句是默认的前提,攻击的话后面有点乱了。就是既然目标都不好了,手段也就没有必要谈,而如果目标是好的话,就是worthy咯,再展开讨论。不过 ...
wk4a 发表于 2009-8-8 17:01

不同人对worthy的看法是不同的,日本觉得侵华是worthy的~这是好目标么?显然不是~

Issue嘛~自圆其说就好~
SOC绝对是个减肥给力的好去处~

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