=七月流火=小组第3次小组作业 A 144 by CHERRYKISS

CHERRYKISSUID: 2677770

144. It is the artist, not the critic,* who gives society something of lasting value.
*a person who evaluates works of art, such as novels, films, music, paintings, etc.

I cannot agree more with the assertion that the artist, rather than critic, gives society something of lasting value. After all, any piece of comment is of little value without work of the artist, which concern not only to the art, but also to society and human culture. Those highly creative artists are always out of step with their time so that they have sigificant long-reaching influence on the furture world.

In terms of critict, their value is embodied in the impersonal remarks, as enlightenment and reference to the artist and a guidance for public. Citists of extensive observation and broad knowledge are like a mirror to contemporary or following artists either by advocating or criticizing. In this way, they also draw society’s attention to artists’ work and encouge them to be capable of judging art. Besides, extraordinary work becomes famous while commonplace ones are rejected by same trenchant comment. In short, the citic dose provide some valuable judgement.

However, a defect of some criticts may be that they so excessively faultfinding and demanding that and a fire of criticism can finaly stifle a real talent on his or her coming into prominence. When too much constraints and pressure are imposed on the artist, especially the beginners in fields of novels, films, music or paintings, it is difficult for them to remain highly original, that is to say, extreme commments contribute to absence of confidence of those artists who could have been successful and highly valued.

Comment is just comment which cannot be created out of nothing, neither can it be a touchstone. It is the artist and their work that really matter. By producing observable artifacts which provoke an aesthetic response of society, the artist gives society something of lasting value. The valuable art work of contemporary artists conveys representative essence of certain kinds of values, ideology, attitudes, and lifestyles. As an exaggerated and entrenched way of self-expression, it strikes deep roots into the hearts of the people around as well as their descendants. A persuasive example is an artist born in 19th century whose paintings often led to the vicious criticism at that time. However, today after more than a century, nations competing for the construction of his exquisite art galleries, the Orsay Museum in Paris, the National Gallery in London, the museum named after him……His works have been placed in the most prominent position where the crowd linger and marvel at every single piece. His name is Van Gogh Van Gogh, one of the most admirable artists who gives society the lasting value.

To draw a conclusion, the value of art and the artist will not sink as time elapse and it is more than commercial value or the aesthetic feeling. What the artist creates is spirit of the age and understanding of humanity. Compared with criticism, it is a more lasting and valuable asset.

SasakiKojiroUID: 2678315

1# CHERRYKISS


I cannot agree more with the assertion that the artist, rather than critic, gives society something of lasting value. After all, any piece of comment is of little value without work of the artist, which concern not only to the art, but also to society and human culture. Those highly creative artists are always out of step with their time so that they have sigificant (significant) long-reaching influence on the furture(future) （world 这个感觉有点多余了~)

In terms of critict(critic), their value is embodied in the impersonal remarks, as enlightenment and reference to the artist and a guidance for public. Citists(critics) of extensive observation and broad knowledge are like a mirror to contemporary or following artists either by advocating or criticizing. In this way, they also draw society’s attention to artists’ work and encouge（encourage?） them to be capable of judging art. Besides, extraordinary work becomes famous while commonplace ones are rejected by same trenchant comment. In short, the citic(critics?critiques?) dose provide some valuable judgement.
第1段说我完全同意作者的看法 还以为全篇都是对作者的正面观点 而你第2段却说的是对critics作用的肯定 缺乏一定的联系
个人感觉如果第1段说：我同意作者的观点+少量让步（即，critics在某些方面对artist也有促进的作用；也是为你2段埋下伏笔）
第2段便可以如上所说critics的作用：Granted, in terms of critics,... 这样的第2段就可以紧接着1段来
后面再however转折说artists更加有用 或者是critics的缺点
这样的结构可能比较有说服力

However, a defect of some criticts may be that they so（） excessively faultfinding and demanding that and a fire of criticism can finaly（finally?final?） stifle a real talent on his or her coming into prominence. When too much constraints and pressure(pressures) are imposed on the artist, especially the beginners in fields of novels, films, music or paintings, it is difficult for them to remain highly original, that is to say, extreme commments(写了3个m!...comments) contribute to absence of confidence of those artists who could have been successful and highly valued.

Comment is just comment(这样表达貌似有点勉强 把后面两句合起来变成它的同位语试试？- - ) which cannot be created out of nothing（LZ确定这个表达式是对的不？）, neither can it be a touchstone. It is the artist and their work that really matter. By producing observable artifacts which provoke an aesthetic response of society, the artist gives society something of lasting value. The valuable art work（artwork 是美术作品 分开好像表示书刊上的图片） of contemporary artists conveys representative essence of certain kinds of values, ideology, attitudes, and lifestyles. As an exaggerated and entrenched way of self-expression, it strikes deep roots into the hearts of the people around as well as their descendants. A persuasive example is an artist born in 19th century whose paintings often led to the vicious criticism at that time. However, today after more than a century(however, today, nations...更为简洁), nations competing for the construction of his exquisite art galleries, the Orsay Museum in Paris, the National Gallery in London, the museum named after him……(这句用的很好~)His works have been placed in the most prominent position where the crowd linger and marvel at every single piece. His name is Van Gogh Van Gogh(- - 多打了一个), one of the most admirable artists who gives society the lasting value.

To draw a conclusion, the value of art and the artist will not sink as time elapse and it is more than commercial value or the aesthetic feeling. What the artist creates is spirit of the age and understanding of humanity. Compared with criticism, it is a more lasting and valuable asset.

例子举的很好 只是在全文段落和各个句子的衔接上有点瑕疵
在末端倒数第2句 what the artist creates is (the) spirit of the ...我不知道是否要加上the
understanding前面也是
毕竟我也只算是个新手 不会有着很正确的评价 不确定的那些请拿到群里或和更多的人讨论吧~~
辛苦LZ了~~:lol

fredrichodieUID: 2612910

还有一个多月的时候写成这样真挺好了~

逻辑上吗，我觉得正文的前两段对评论的论述还不太充分，正文第一段：可以更深入挖掘一下评论是怎样体现价值的，韦晓亮上说的那三点挺好的；第二段：对于评论的价值的永久性，你这里说了主观上他们可能是faultfinding，这样可以继续说对大众会misleading
另外，论题是说价值的永久性的，这里面好像没太对评论的永久价值作什么评判，比如说评论都是表达评论员个人观点的，除了misleading之外也会被个人认识和时代限制，这样就没有永久的价值了之类的…
advocating和criticizing不是很恰当的反义关系吧…criticize的意思是consider the merits and demerits, 本身是很中性的，要是我的话更倾向positive and negative perspectives，或者favor和disfavor

最后，我倾向于把艺术作品的价值放在前面，这样可以在后面加这么一点：艺术的价值有时候也是通过评论的探讨和审视才被人们发掘出来的

都是个人观点~总体上挺好~加油~