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发表于 2005-7-8 21:20:41 |只看该作者 |倒序浏览
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It is primarily through formal education that a culture tries to perpetuate the ideas it favors and discredit the ideas it fears.

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1、        基础教育担负着传承文化里念的责任,集权国家任何等级的教育都在灌输文化里念。
2、        民主国家大学教育的目的是培养学生的独立思考能力,而不是简单地否定不认同的文化
3、        其他方法,比如法律,媒体都有传递文化的作用

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According to the speaker, it is mainly through formal education that a culture perpetuate its favorable ideas and discredit the ideas it fears. I do not agree with the speaker, since, in my view, education in secondary schools serves as a large contributor to the passing down of cultural values, while higher schools cultivate students' ability of analytical and critical thinking.

First of all, I concede that the speaker's suggestion has some merits to the extent that, more often than not education in primary schools or even high schools account for the indoctrination of cultural values to youngsters within certain social groups. As a matter of fact, it is commonly accepted that it might be hard for teenagers in high school to gain enough intellectual capacity and social experience to form a sound value system. Thus, it could be an appropriate way for educators in secondary schools to impart the basic ethic and cultural values and ideas to the students, which would invariably provides the students certain degree of cultural identities. Moreover, it is undeniable that in an autocratic country, the totalitarian governments still use formal educations in school of every level as an effective approach to indoctrinate values they favor, and then govern the people more conveniently.

Secondly, however, it is not a main duty of college education in democratic societies to indoctrinate cultural ideas. Actually, it is analytical and critical thinking skills that students should learn through the education in colleges and universities. In fact, college students as grown-ups have the right to choose their moral and cultural directions, and educators may just performs as cultivators of thinking skills. Rote learning of facts and figures should be a secondary purpose of college education, instead the mission of college education is to nurture certain degree of tolerance to other cultures rather than simple deny the values that may contradict with the ideas of their own.

Finally, the speaker ignores other approaches other than formal education that may contribute to perpetuate certain ideas while prevent the others in a society. For example, laws, as forces carried out by governments clearly inform people what they could do and what they must not do on a societal level. As a result, it turns out to be a effective way to pass down cultural ideas since different nations may have different laws. In addition, media also has a great impact on indoctrination of cultural values owing to its in-depth influence on people's mind and wide-spread coverage on social issues. Apparently, besides formal education, other factors like laws and mass media also account for the indoctrination of cultural ideas.

To sum up, the speaker's assertion has some merit insofar as formal education in secondary school and totalitarian countries contribute a lot to the passing down of cultural ideas. But the main purpose of college education is to cultivate analytical and critical thinking skills. Furthermore the speaker overlooks other factors in a society, like laws and media, which perpetuate the ideas it favors and discredit ideas it fears.
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发表于 2005-7-9 11:45:27 |只看该作者

很想改,仔仔细细的看了一遍,可是什么也改不出来。

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发表于 2005-7-9 11:47:49 |只看该作者

很想改,仔仔细细的看了一遍,可是什么也改不出来。

埃,写也写不出来,改也不会改,怎么办?8号就要考了。
拿到这个题目分析了半天,权衡写什么不写什么。最后写了个中文提纲,发现和很久没看的修锐的分析方法竟然一样。自从上完新东方以后就没发现修锐上的issue有什么用。‘
写在这里,希望对楼主能有帮助。
1。这道题有“through"这个关键词,属于问题解决型。其他的关键词还有”the way to""should""by/through"
2。问题解决型的写作思路是这样:
赞成:
反对:1。直接反对
          2。其他解决办法
中心句: a,b,c,合作才能解决这个问题

另外这道题属于“个人与整体类”
本类的题目还有 五个关于究竟靠什么文化理解自己的文化的题目。因为这个分类的题号和通用题号不一样,所以不能一一列举。见谅!

https://bbs.gter.net/viewthread.php?tid=297259
如果有时间,就帮我改改,毕竟我没帮你改出来,呵呵。

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发表于 2005-7-9 17:06:26 |只看该作者
According to the speaker, it is mainly through formal education that a culture perpetuate its favorable ideas and discredit the ideas it fears. I do not agree with the speaker, since, in my view, education in secondary schools serves as a large contributor to the passing down of cultural values, while higher schools cultivate students' ability of analytical and critical thinking.

First of all, I concede that the speaker's suggestion has some merits to the extent that, more often than not education in primary schools or even high schools account for the indoctrination of cultural values to youngsters within certain social groups. As a matter of fact, it is commonly accepted that it might be hard for teenagers in high school to gain enough intellectual capacity and social experience to form a sound value system. Thus, it could be an appropriate way for educators in secondary schools to impart the basic ethic and cultural values and ideas to the students, which would invariably provides the students certain degree of cultural identities. Moreover, it is undeniable that in an autocratic country, the totalitarian governments still use formal educations in school of every level as an effective(compulsory,我觉得effective 有点怪,不确定,一个个人意见) approach to indoctrinate values they favor, and then govern the people more conveniently.
实话实说,这段没怎么看明白,好像讲的问题比较散~
不过用词不错
Secondly, however, it is not a main duty of college education in democratic societies to indoctrinate cultural ideas. Actually, it is analytical and critical thinking skills that students should learn through the education in colleges and universities. In fact, college students as grown-ups have the right to choose their moral and cultural directions, and educators may just performs as cultivators of thinking skills. Rote learning of facts and figures should be a secondary purpose of college education, instead the mission of college education is to nurture certain degree of tolerance to other cultures rather than simple deny the values that may contradict with the ideas of their own.
讲教育的真正意义,虽然也相关,但是好像不是很convincing,

Finally, the speaker ignores other approaches other than formal education that may contribute to perpetuate(ing) certain ideas while prevent the others in a society. For example, laws, as forces carried out by governments clearly inform people what they could do and what they must not do on a societal level. As a result, it turns out to be a effective way to pass down cultural ideas since different nations may have different laws. In addition, media also has a great impact on indoctrination of cultural values owing to its in-depth influence on people's mind and wide-spread coverage on social issues. Apparently, besides formal education, other factors like laws and mass media also account for the indoctrination of cultural ideas.
这段我喜欢,很清楚,但是一个小小建议,我不喜欢用other factors这种argument的词语,你就直接说laws and media,挺好的

To sum up, the speaker's assertion has some merit insofar as formal education in secondary school and totalitarian countries contribute a lot to the passing down of cultural ideas. But the main purpose of college education is to cultivate analytical and critical thinking skills. Furthermore the speaker overlooks other factors in a society, like laws and media, which perpetuate the ideas it favors and discredit ideas it fears.
整体不错,成系统,而且用词什么都很清楚,合适:)

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发表于 2005-7-9 21:15:06 |只看该作者
感谢mickye的点评

2,3段原本是围绕教育展开,分成低等教育,集权国家的教育,民主国家高等教育3个方面来分析教育对传承价值观的作用,的确比较散了,不够有力
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学习来看看^_^;也欢迎狠狠回拍~thx

Issue104 未限时
It is primarily through formal education that a culture tries to perpetuate the ideas it favors and discredit the ideas it fears.

提纲
1、        基础教育担负着传承文化里念的责任,集权国家任何等级的教育都在灌输文化里念。
2、        民主国家大学教育的目的是培养学生的独立思考能力,而不是简单地否定不认同的文化
3、        其他方法,比如法律,媒体都有传递文化的作用

[题目强调是formal education是否能。。。;提纲的逻辑性没看明白;期待作者来说说^_^]

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According to the speaker, it is mainly through formal education that a culture perpetuate its favorable ideas and discredit the ideas it fears. I do not agree with the speaker, since, in my view, education in secondary schools serves as a large contributor to the passing down of cultural values, while higher schools cultivate students' ability of analytical and critical thinking.
[secondary school是中学,而higher school 意思就是更高一级的学校;可是这样的说法似乎不妥吧;有个词组higher school certificate [英]中学毕业文凭
论点就是不同意题目观点;然后准备区分不同类型的学校,即按照学历层次高低不同的学校来论证其作用的不同。。。这个与第三那个其他方法,似乎没什么内在联系;且看下文作者如何论证。。。]


First of all, I concede that the speaker's suggestion has some merits to the extent that, more often than not education in primary schools or even high schools account for the indoctrination of cultural values to youngsters within certain social groups. As a matter of fact, it is commonly accepted that it might be hard for teenagers in high school to gain enough intellectual capacity and social experience to form a sound value system. Thus, it could be an appropriate way for educators in secondary schools to impart the basic ethic and cultural values and ideas to the students, which would invariably provides the students certain degree of cultural identities. Moreover, it is undeniable that in an autocratic country, the totalitarian governments still use formal educations in school of every level as an effective approach to indoctrinate values they favor, and then govern the people more conveniently.
[这个totalitarian government的例子可以;不过试问一下,有那个国家和地区的secondary school 和high school所教育的不是他们所推崇的文化思想呢;难道他们会教授那些ideas that their culture fears吗?我想是不会的。但是到了college或university层面上的school,那由于所谓的学术自由吧,那就不一定会discredit the ideas that their culture fears了,这点下文准备要论证,接着看。。。]

Secondly, however, it is not a main duty of college education in democratic societies to indoctrinate cultural ideas. Actually, it is analytical and critical thinking skills that students should learn through the education in colleges and universities. In fact, college students as grown-ups have the right to choose their moral and cultural directions, and educators may just performs [perform] as cultivators of thinking skills. Rote learning of facts and figures should be a secondary purpose of college education [这里说rote learning of facts and figures 是college education的secondary purpose不妥吧……], instead the mission of college education is to nurture certain degree of tolerance to other cultures rather than simple deny the values that may contradict with the ideas of their own.
[这段跟上一段有对比的味道是吧;上面的education in secondary school in totalitarian country与这段的college education in democratic society,这能比较吗?各取极端的情况,这是有片面性的;在argument中大概是严重批判的对象,是吧;我看作者argument也估计写得不少吧,整篇给人的感觉有些像argument咯~]

Finally, the speaker ignores other approaches other than formal education that may contribute to perpetuate certain ideas while prevent the others in a society. [argument的写法啊。。。] For example, laws, as forces carried out by governments clearly inform people what they could do and what they must not do on a societal level. As a result, it turns out to be a [an] effective way to pass down cultural ideas since different nations may have different laws. In addition, media also has a great impact on indoctrination of cultural values owing to its in-depth influence on people's mind and wide-spread [widespread] coverage on social issues. Apparently, besides formal education, other factors like laws and mass media also account for the indoctrination of cultural ideas.
[这段分析论证不错,值得学习^_^]

To sum up, the speaker's assertion has some merit insofar as formal education in secondary school and totalitarian countries contribute a lot to the passing down of cultural ideas. But the main purpose of college education is to cultivate analytical and critical thinking skills. Furthermore the speaker overlooks other factors in a society, like laws and media, which perpetuate the ideas it favors and discredit ideas it fears. [怎么老以为在看argument呢~呵呵]

[纵观整篇,感觉作者论证的功底还是不错的,文章中的谦词造句有不少是我要好好学习的^_^
但文章主题的那两段论证的观点与第三部分的似乎缺少逻辑联系,作者能否来解答说说呢?]


欢迎狠狠回拍啊^_^thx~
https://bbs.gter.net/viewthread.php?tid=297426
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发表于 2005-7-10 08:39:25 |只看该作者
感谢chenda8201的点评

2、3两段两段逻辑关系的确差点,说集权国家的时候,提到了education in every level,即包括中学及大学的教育都有洗脑之嫌(出于全面的考虑),但放这里又有点不妥,因为2、3段的主要逻辑关系是中学及大学教育的一个对比
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