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dinddind2003UID: 196353

TOPIC：ISSUE 153 - "Students should bring a certain skepticism to whatever they study. They should question what they are taught instead of accepting it passively."


It is important for students to bring a certain skepticism because this attitude satisfies the purpose of education, moreover, skepticism is a valuable character-- which needs to be cultivated since people are still students--to find the truth and make the society progress. On the other hand, sometimes the modern society does not offer students enough time to skepticize whatever they are taught.

Admittedly, skepticism is to accord with the purpose of education which is to change students with an dogmatic mind into the ones with an open mind and make them become more critical, creative rather than fill them with knowledge which is said to be true. Students are not computers which have no self thoughts but the operators. What they need is not only the settled methods to use these tools which are handed down by their ancestors, but also the ability to improve these tools as well as the ways of which they can get benefits from them. Thus, they should learn to skepticize what they learn: is there a better way to solve this problem? Can we improve these facilities to accomplish this work? Students should always take these questions in mind.

Furthermore, people who are eager to find truth and have their life improved need the character of skepticism and they should cultivate it since they are still students. The knowledge handed down generation by generation may prove to be true for hundreds of years, but if there comes up a counterexample, this knowledge need to be modified. For thousands of years, people are shorting their distance from truth through this way. It was Copernicus who skepticize heliocentric theory stood out to point out geocentric theory, which make people better understand the location of the earth in the universe. On the other point, skepticism can lead to invention, if people in the past had never brought forward the question that whether human could travel faster and faster, automobiles would not arise. Moreover, since skepticism is so important, people need to develop this quality from young. While they are students when many characters are been shaped, they should try to bring a certain skepticism to their study.

On the other hand, students do not need and do not have enough time to skepticize whatever they are taught. First, the principles which are regarded as the foundation of the human society usually have been questioned thousands of times, but no one can find a counterexample so that people have to admit these principles to be true. For example, It is sure to be a waste of time to skeptize that there is no perpetual motion machine throughout the world. Second, what students learn nowadays is the knowledge summarized by their ancestors through hundreds of years, so maybe even their whole life is not enough to skepticize only a part of it.


In sum, although student can not skepticize everything they meet, they need to bring a certain skepticism to their study so that they will be competent to make the society improved when they grow up.

fathippohuhuUID: 2171795

TOPIC：ISSUE 153 - "Students should bring a certain skepticism to whatever they study. They should question what they are taught instead of accepting it passively."

It is important for students to bring a certain skepticism because this attitude satisfies the purpose of education, moreover, skepticism is a valuable character-- which needs to be cultivated since people are still students--to find the truth and make the society progress. On the other hand, sometimes the modern society does not offer students enough time to skepticize whatever they are taught. 觉得最后少了一句话总结你的观点，这样直接跳到下一段不大顺。但是如果再加好像又有点累赘。

Admittedly, skepticism is to accord with the purpose of education which is to change students with a dogmatic mind into the ones with an open mind and make them become more critical, creative rather than fill them with knowledge which is said to be true. Students are not computers which have no self thoughts but the operators operators 这个词也表现不出创造的意思. What they need is not only the settled methods to use these tools which are handed down by their ancestors, but also the ability to improve these tools as well as the ways of which they can get benefits from them. Thus, they should learn to skepticize what they learn: is there a better way to solve this problem? Can we improve these facilities to accomplish this work? Students should always take these questions in mind.

这段写得不错。虽然一些表达不一定很精准，但完全不影响流畅性。我觉得从教育目的的角度切入很好。而且看出dinddind比较擅长把事情简练地表达出来。

Furthermore, people who are eager to find truth and have their life improved need the character of skepticism and they should cultivate it since they are are考虑改成were，因为since后面跟一个过去的时间表示从。。。的意思，如果跟现在的时间会被理解成因为，既然的意思。 still students. The knowledge handed down generation by generation may prove to be true for hundreds of years, but if there comes up a counterexample, this knowledge need to be modified. For thousands of years虽然都是表示很多，但是表示同一个时间段用不统一的说法还是不好。而且重复了, people are shortingshort在金山上查不到作动词表示缩短的意思 their distance from truth through this way. It was Copernicus who skepticize heliocentric theory stood out to point out geocentric theory, which make people better understand the location of the earth in the universe. On the other point上面的内容说怀疑引导发现真理，接下来说怀疑引导新发明，我觉得是接近的两点，用meanwhile连接比on the other point更好。 skepticism can lead to invention, if people in the past had never brought forward the question that whether human could travel faster and faster, automobiles would not arise. Moreover下面提到怀疑很重要，小孩要培养， 感觉是顺着接着说的，不需要用moreover, since skepticism is so important, people need to develop this quality from young. While they are students when many characters are been shaped, they should try to bring a certain skepticism to their study.

挑了连接词的毛病和一些小错。

On the other hand, students do not need and do not have enough time to skepticize whatever they are taught. First, the principles which are regarded as the foundation of the human society usually have been questioned thousands of times, but no one can find a counterexample so that people have to admit these principles to be true. For example, It is sure to be a waste of time to skeptize that there is no perpetual motion machine throughout the world. 我觉得这个说法跟上面一段矛盾了， 关于无论理论建立多久， 有一个反例就要修正。 但是永动机的例子不错， 我觉得可以写：应该审慎地怀疑， 充分参考前人的成果比如永动机就已经有很多正面反面的证据了，而不是轻易地怀疑一切。 Second, what students learn nowadays is the knowledge summarized by their ancestors through hundreds of years, so maybe even their whole life is not enough to skepticize only a part of it. 再加一句：在宝贵的时间当中，花充足的时间学习比过度地怀疑一切更有价值。

是否因为时间紧迫，觉得这一段写得不够充分。一个观点用一句话很难表述完整我觉得，至少得说2-3句。

In sum, although student can not skepticize everything they meet, they need to bring a certain skepticism to their study so that they will be competent to make the society improved when they grow up.  

我觉得这篇文章首先思路让人看得很明白，大的结构相当清楚， 但是一些段落内部的层次不是很清楚。 其次是论述的充分和可信程度，我觉得前两个理由段做的不错，第三个理由段不够充分。 最后是表达，觉得有的地方不够准确。

[ 本帖最后由 fathippohuhu 于 2006-1-24 17:57 编辑 ]

dinddind2003UID: 196353

Thank you for your valuable suggestion!

It is important for students to bring a certain skepticism because this attitude satisfies the purpose of education, moreover, skepticism is a valuable character-- which needs to be cultivated since people are still students--to find the truth and make the society progress. On the other hand, sometimes the modern society does not offer students enough time to skepticize whatever they are taught. 觉得最后少了一句话总结你的观点，这样直接跳到下一段不大顺。但是如果再加好像又有点累赘。(其实我的第一段就是我的论点，是有保留的赞同，可是为了说的明白些所以看起来有点长)

Admittedly, skepticism is to accord with the purpose of education which is to change students with a dogmatic mind into the ones with an open mind and make them become more critical, creative rather than fill them with knowledge which is said to be true. Students are not computers which have no self thoughts but the operators operators 这个词也表现不出创造的意思（没有什么好词能表现出创造了，郁闷。。。）. What they need is not only the settled methods to use these tools which are handed down by their ancestors, but also the ability to improve these tools as well as the ways of which they can get benefits from them. Thus, they should learn to skepticize what they learn: is there a better way to solve this problem? Can we improve these facilities to accomplish this work? Students should always take these questions in mind.

Furthermore, people who are eager to find truth and have their life improved need the character of skepticism and they should cultivate it since they were still students. The knowledge handed down generation by generation may prove to be true for hundreds of years, but if there comes up a counterexample, this knowledge need to be modified and people are cut their distance from truth through this way. It was Copernicus who skepticize heliocentric theory stood out to point out geocentric theory, which make people better understand the location of the earth in the universe. Meanwhile skepticism can lead to invention, if people in the past had never brought forward the question that whether human could travel faster and faster, automobiles would not arise. Since skepticism is so important, people need to develop this quality from young. While they are students when many characters are been shaped, they should try to bring a certain skepticism to their study.

挑了连接词的毛病和一些小错。全同意你的意见

On the other hand, students should skepticize prudently. The principles which are regarded as the foundation of the human society usually have been questioned thousands of times, but no one can find a counterexample so that people have to admit these principles to be true. For example, It is sure to be a waste of time to skeptize that there is no perpetual motion machine throughout the world. Thus we should make sure whether it is worth to spend a lot of time before we skeptize. 我觉得这个说法跟上面一段矛盾了， 关于无论理论建立多久， 有一个反例就要修正。 但是永动机的例子不错， 我觉得可以写：应该审慎地怀疑， 充分参考前人的成果比如永动机就已经有很多正面反面的证据了，而不是轻易地怀疑一切。（按你的观点改了,还有把那个人们没有很多时间去怀疑的论点删了，说不清的东西不如不说）


In sum, although student can not skepticize everything they meet, they need to bring a certain skepticism to their study so that they will be competent to make the society improved when they grow up.