[天下无G]作文讨论群2结果总结

richardpangUID: 194046

元月21日

210"Most people choose a career on the basis of such pragmatic considerations as the needs of the economy, the relative ease of finding a job, and the salary they can expect to make. Hardly anyone is free to choose a career based on his or her natural talents or interest in a particular kind of work."

提纲一：
部分同意
1、承认经济因素是选择工作的重要原因
钱在生活中有重要地位，满足生存需要是优先考虑的
Maslow's hierarchy of needs
Deficiency needs like hunger, thirst, comforts, esteem
Growth needs like self-fulfillment, realization of one's potential
2、但生存并不是选择职业的最重要因素，兴趣爱好更重要
许多人为了生存临时找了工作，但最终还是努力追求自己的理想
（生存是根本的，生存是根本的，先积累了钱再追求理想，然后才能谈得上精神生活）
(物质是基础 ,先打工再创业)(大学生，开始入校时候，有理想，想当科学家，毕业时，为了生计，还是找个普通工作，理想还是服从于现实了)
打工是个积累的过程，也是在追求自己理想的开始 ，比如：我身边有个校友，开始想开个座电池的公司，但没钱， 后来，等到他积累经验了之后，和几个朋友开了个大公司现在很成功 ，实际上他实现了自己的理想
talented musician who both write and sing songs for audience
gave up his career as doctor, start to pursue his ideal work as an musician
3、还有一些人不顾利益，一心投入自己理想的职业
Einstein not profitable Physics; Van Gogh painting lead a peniless life
many preservationist choose to live in the wilderness areas to investigate the life behavior of endangered animals and try their best and ever efforts to help and save the life and habitats of these precious animals.

236"Encouraging young people to believe that they can accomplish great things if they try hard enough is both misleading and potentially harmful."

236 不同意
1、鼓励可以增强信心，从而更加努力，发挥潜力，获得成功
好处〉坏处
Common sense tells us confidence is very important to an individual who want to be successful. Educators have found that children who are praised and encouraged by teachers and parents will have more performance than other children.  no pain no gain
learn a new subject; campaign for the leadership of a student association
是树立对社会有用的应该从人类正义出发

梁启超“一门三院士” 梁启超教导孩子们“莫问收获，但问耕耘”，其实是“天道酬勤”，埋头耕耘的人总是会有收获的，梁启超付出极大心血精心教子，换来的是9个子女个个成才的硕果。其中，长子梁思成成了中国著名建筑学家、中科院技术科学部委员，次子梁思永成了中国著名考古学家、中科院考古研究所副所长，连最小的儿子梁思礼，也成了火箭专家、当代中国导弹控制系统的带头人，当选为国际宇航科学院院士、中国科学院院士和国际宇航联合会副主席……对生长在“满门俊秀”家庭的子女而言，其父亲梁启超，的确是“父爱如山”啊！ 　

2、即使通过努力还是失败了，他们在努力过程中已经有了提高，并且可以吸取经验教训attending a competition; work on a project
坏处，丧失信心，对世界失望

3、条件有限（时间）情况下，对于过大的、不切实际unpractical unrealistic的目标，一味鼓励就不好了，要鼓励年轻人选择符合自己能力与潜力的目标，或者把大目标转化为一系列小目标逐步实现
choosing research topic for academic paper, too broad theme impractical downsize
比如你鼓励你儿子当主席,但是你的儿子能力有限,当不了主席,压力就很大
丁肇中说过：作科研，如果是为了诺贝尔奖，那么是很危险的。

提纲二
position: disagree

1, encouragement makes a great man.
2, children need encouragement for that they do not know the potential ability they have.
3, however, stress brought by encouragement sometimes will undermine the health of children

11"All nations should help support the development of a global university designed to engage students in the process of solving the world's most persistent social problems."

11、支持建立世界大学，但也存在一些问题
1、当前有些问题具有全球性，需要站在世界高度合作解决，世界大学培养这样的人才
environmental pollution(spherical ozone layer); energy crisis; conflicts and wars
每个国家自己培养的解决社会问题的人才往往只从本国利益角度考虑，可能会对世界发展不利，如发达国家把污染强的heavy industry转移到发展中国家，为保护森林资源从外国进口lumber

2、世界大学中的学术交流有利于共享成功与教训的经验，避免错误
学习别的国家解决社会问题的经验教训，不同国家有不同的观点，交流，找出最佳方案
environmental preservation strategy; economical energy consumption; leagal system feature in equity and justice任何国家的教师和学生都可以提出useful insight or discovery

3、世界大学研究成果的应用问题
每个国家的发展程度有差异，对研究问题的优先顺序不一样
For instance, the United States may be more concerned about how to expand the economy and keep a balance between economical development and environment protection, some other countries in Africa, where regional conflicts are continuous, are more cared about how to end the war and create a peaceful circumstance for further development.
国家历史文化背景不同，经济条件不同，研究成果不一定适用
宗教问题，社会福利，保险，法律问题，尺度不一样的还有对枪的管理，死刑
不同国家有不同的想法所以更容易有分歧
比如美国的医疗保险就很到位，而中国还停留在共同只富的问题上
environmental protection

8、"It is often necessary, even desirable, for political leaders to withhold information from the public."

8、部分同意
1、承认为了获得政治领导权win the political game需要withhold informaion
to gain political power; disclose every personal flaw, shortcoming, foibles
opponents will take advantage; no need to be complete honest
2、关系到classic information of the government要保留
national defence，attack on drug dealers，国防信息安全，核武器的机密
比如地震马上来到了，不能发布

3、但在关系到人民利益的时候隐瞒信息会对人们造成危害，使政府失去信任（★例子少）
the panic caused by SARS derived from China in 2003 was mostly initiated by the closure of information by the government of Beijing. Lots of citizens are not available to take measures to protect from this deadly disease.

216"Most important discoveries or creations are accidental: it is usually while seeking the answer to one question that we come across the answer to another."
216 部分同意
1、有一些重大发现是偶然性的
Columbus thought he could find a short route to India and struggled hard in the journey, and because of his emphasize on the chasing process he finally make a great success that is the discovery of North American as we all know now.
During the course of an unrelated experiment, the Scottish scientist Fleming accidentally discovered Penicillin.
居里夫人在找新元素，发现镭

2、有些发现看似偶然，但实际是建立在长期积累基础上的
The falling of an apple from an apple tree to the ground set Newton into thinking and finally led to his discovery of the gravity of the earth.
门捷列夫，元素周期表，梦里发现的
比如Smally发现C60， 那个结构是想到建筑才想出来的足球烯结构，才获得诺贝尔奖

3、大部分的发现都是有目的有计划研究的结果
结论严密的研究中，研究者的注意力放在要解决的问题上，对以外情况可能不重视，偶然的发现在历史上毕竟占少数，详细周到考虑出成果是占多数
endel had spent 8 years to collect amounts of data about the characters of pea. Referring to these valuable data, he put forward the theory about genetics.
Edison electronic bulb

aileen0124UID: 2257395

it's perfect!

最後の使徒UID: 2257608

呵, 鼓励这种讨论~ 小组建立不只是为了埋头写作文的, 相互交流能够开拓思路
不过建议把有问题的地方重点拿出来讨论, 其它就内部消化掉好了
听明管的~象很多共识性的问题就等考完一起总结出来给大家参考吧, 也得注意雷同的问题

[ 本帖最后由 lastangel 于 2007-1-23 00:54 编辑 ]

davidjackyUID: 135962

楼上版主的建议我想修改为：讨论结果可以发自己组员分享，如QQ群，等组内成员考完再放到网络上。作文修改可以放到网络互改。考虑到一个例子重复问题，虽然思路不同。

richardpangUID: 194046

好的，考完再发出来