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I strongly agree with the speaker. In my view, those languages should be protected by the governments of countries in which they are spoken.

To begin with, when it comes to cultures of a society, they are mainly expressed by languages. That is to say, languages are a kind of media; no matter they are oral ones or writing ones. Without them, cultures can not be recorded, transmitted, and understood. For example, customs in some small villages are usually handed down generation by generation, using oral languages, which we usually call them dialects. If the dialects disappear, how can we understand these customs? If no one understands them, they will be forgotten in near future. So, to protect the diversity of the cultures, these languages should be protected.

Moreover, in the realms of science and technology, some ethnic groups are especially excellent. For instance, Maya are good at the calculations in astronomy. They have their special tools and methods. However, their civilizations were destroyed, and majority of their language system is extinct. Since knowledge of science and technology are also recorded and spread through languages, scientists can only understand small part of their scientific scheme just through pieces of Maya-language. Actually, if we are familiar with their language, we can learn these methods and tools easily. Therefore, we should prevent these languages from being extinct, considering the further studying of their knowledge.

In addition, languages can be used in other fields. For example, in the movie ‘Wind speaker’, dialects in some small villages are used as codes, because these languages are rarely spoken. On one hand, from the example, we know that language can be used as codes, or have other potential usage. On the other hand, it tells us that the best way to protect a language is to advocate more people speak it.

In sum, the governments should prevent the languages in their countries from becoming extinct, even few people speak them.
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I strongly support that it is the power of government and nation that should be make use to survive these lesser-known languages which has been spoken by few and few people. Moreover, the power of human is so great that it could change this severe situation. However, in some circumstance, it is pointless to fund on these language, and it is unnecessary to deliver them from becoming extinct.



During the development of human, for the purpose of communicating with each other more convenient, language has been developed into a situation that only the minority of them has been reserved and become the world most general language spoken by most people. It is said by a research that every year there are hundreds of languages have become extinct. Nevertheless, seeing their lost from the earth, government should take measures to prevent it. Since every language is the symbol of a tribe, an ethnic and even a nation, and it represents the culture of them. When this kind of culture is so typical and meaning to our research that the government should rescue it no matter how much it will be spent. It is so unfortunate for us to lose this culture; it is the most important component for our history. For instance, Central Kalapuyan was a Kalapuyan language indigenous to the central Willamette Valley in Oregon in the United States. It has  an extinct language nowadays. However, in order to protect it from being extinct, the government in this state has assemble specific group to search data of it and then to integrate them into a book to store. It is the appropriate method through actions taken by government.



Meanwhile, while through the power of government it is an available measure, for the purpose of keeping from the extinct situation, human’s energy should be an effective method. Since human have always been the most primary component, and it is the masses that make use of the language, with support of them, lesser-known language could be used in some aspects so that it would be made more use of. To illustrate this view, there is an example to demonstrate it. Salinan is a native American language


However, in some particular circumstances, it will be meaningless to take measures to prevent from being extinct of these languages. It just wastes time and money to fund them. Since they are of no value to be reserved, they have just been spoken by a minority of persons or even by hardly few people, then having been short of historical culture might be an available reason. For the more critical purpose, it is very inconvenient and complicated for them to be used for daily life or official way, hence it is inevitable to be the victim of the development of human.



In sum,it is the duty of government of nation to protect the language of their nation from being extinct because the language being the representation of culture and history of this nation. Meanwhile, along with the power of the masses, the effectiveness would be higher. However, in some circumstances, when these languages being lack of value of culture and history, funding would be ungrateful.

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本帖最后由 imlifewilling 于 2010-2-5 22:33 编辑

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这篇作文太纠结了,中式英语太厉害了,而且思路很混乱。
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It is a fact that many of the world's lesser-known languages are being lost for the reason that fewer and fewer people speak them. When it comes to the discussion about whether the government should act to prevent such languages from becoming extinct or not, according to my observation, I think the government should do something in protecting these languages and it has already done so in fact since languages play a significant role in our society. However, we should also keep in mind that the extinction of languages does not just depend on whether there is a government funding or not.

In the first place, languages play an important role in keeping the integrity of our culture and ourselves as well. As the main carrier of our culture, languages keep and convey our history from our ancestors to us generation by generation. From the letters written on a paper to the folks or even to the body languages, all of which are different styles of languages, are formed,developed and passed down in our history, so we can understand a history of a society more comprehensively with the use of its own language. What's more, it is the language that upon which we depend to distinguish ourselves from others with different cultures. Without languages, we would lose the sense of pride, dignity and self-worth easily. It is also the reason why Japan forced the people in the northeast of China to learn Japanese during the World War Two. In short, languages are an important part of the culture of society and the government needs to protect the diminishing languages in order to keep the integrity of the society.

In the second place, after realizing the crucial role that the languages play, the government has already devote some resources to protect the languages which are becoming extinct. On the one hand, the government encourages the  minority people of the country who use the indigenous languages to keep on using them. In China, you can see in Tibet and Xijiang that the the schools for the minority students are teaching with two languages, their own language and the Chinese. On the other hand, the government also spends some money in researching those languages. The money is used to collect the materials of the languages, research those languages and propagate them. From this point of view, the government does not want to lose any kind of its languages since they are the treasure of  its society and has acted to protect them.

In the last analysis, we need not to be astonished that there are still some languages extinct even though with the help of the government for the reason that it is the need of the development of our society that makes this situation. Over the span of history, it is easy for us to find that we are throwing the old things and developing new things all the time, so do the language. We changed from bicycles to cars; we changed from letters to emails; we changed from a feudal society to a democratic society; all of which are for a better life. So when it comes to the language, people will choose the same criteria to determine whether they would keep on using the language if the adverse effects brought about the language barriers overweigh the benefits it can produce. In a word, it is natural that a language would be discarded by people with the development of the society.

To sum up, language is important for a society, and it is the government's work to protect a language that is becoming extinct. However, though with the government's help, some languages would still be abandoned by people for a better life.
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I strongly support that it is the power of government and nation that should be make use to survive these lesser-known languages which has been spoken by few and few people.(不通) Moreover, the power of human is so great that it could change this severe situation. However, in some circumstance, it is pointless to fund on these language, and it is unnecessary to deliver them from becoming extinct.
开头第一句话就不是很通顺,这样不太好。你的观点我也没怎么看懂。是政府的支持是有用的,但是有时候是没有必要的?
During the development of human, for the purpose of communicating with each other more convenient, language has been developed into a situation that only the minority of them has been reserved and become the world most general language spoken by most people(说明语言由于人们交流的需要在减少). It is said by a research that every year there are hundreds of languages have become extinct(这个速度很恐怖啊!而且你举着个例子是想说明前面一句话,但是你没有说明这种减少的原因,怎么能证明前面一句话呢). Nevertheless, seeing their lost from the earth, government should take measures to prevent it. Since every language is the symbol of a tribe, an ethnic and even a nation, and it represents the culture of them.(政府要保护语言,因为是文化的象征) When this kind of culture is so typical and meaning to our research(什么研究?突然出现!) that the government should rescue it no matter how much it will be spent(costed ). It is so unfortunate for us to lose this culture; it is the most important component for our history(这两句有什么作用,这两句之间是因果关系?但是你没有什么连词来表明这个关系). For instance, Central Kalapuyan was a Kalapuyan language indigenous to the central Willamette Valley in Oregon in the United States. It has  an extinct language nowadays. However(转折关系有吗?), in order to protect it from being extinct, the government in this state has assemble specific group to search data of it and then to integrate them into a book to store. It is the appropriate method through actions taken by government(不通).
句子的毛病就不说了。那么逻辑问题。你这段要标明什么呢?你的主体结构可能是因(语言减少了),果(政府要保护),因(是研究的重点,是历史的重要组成部分)。这种结构式很少见的。你可以先说明语言在减少,然后说明它的意义,最后在说明由于这么重要,所以政府要保护。
Meanwhile, while throughthough) the power of government it is an available measure, for the purpose of keeping languages from the extinct situation(extinction), human’s energy should be an effective method. Since human have always been the most primary component(什么的重要组成部分?), and it is the masses that make use of the language, with support of them, lesser-known language could be used in some aspects(哪些方面,举下例子就更有说服力) so that it would be made more use of. To illustrate this view, there is an example to demonstrate it. Salinan is a native American language However, in some particular circumstances, it will be meaningless to take measures to prevent from being extinct of these languages. It just wastes time and money to fund them. Since they are of no value to be reserved, they have just been spoken by a minority of persons or even by hardly few people, then having been short of historical culture might be an available reason. For the more critical purpose, it is very inconvenient and complicated for them to be used for daily life or official way, hence it is inevitable to be the victim of the development of human.
这段句子也不说了。但是逻辑同样不清楚,前面的已经标出来了。后面的你又回到为什么政府不能资助,但是你要论证的是人的作用啊。虽然政府不能自主,但是也不一定人就有作用啊
In sum,it is the duty of government of nation to protect the language of their nation from being extinct because the language being the representation of culture and history of this nation. Meanwhile, along with the power of the masses, the effectiveness would be higher. However, in some circumstances, when these languages being lack of value of culture and history, funding would be ungrateful.

总结,逻辑混乱,语言表述不清,建议多看范文。但是主题思想还是有的。

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本帖最后由 yeshen2010 于 2010-2-7 01:29 编辑

ISSUE13Many of the world’s lesser-known languages are being lost as fewer and fewer people speak them. The governments of countries in which these languages are spoken should act to prevent such languages from becoming extinct.


There exist many other languages we do not know in the world except English, French, Chinese, and etc because a few people speak them. The speaker claims that many of the world’s lesser-known languages are being lost. I concur with this assertion, and believe that the governments of countries in which these languages are used should prevent them from turning vanished if the governments have the ability to do so.


Languages have the function to pass down a country or a nation’s history, culture and spirit. Many history issues, traditional customs, and spirit have been passed by languages at first before literal came out. Yu fighting the flood, for instance in history, is a piece of history about a person named Yu how to deal with the Yellow River in China. One example in customs is Thanksgiving Day. There is no detail literal record to illustrate where the festival originated from, but a story handed down by people in order to appreciate help from others which finally becomes a culture in America. A legend about a person wanted to remove a mountain shows the spirit of perseverance. With the issues and stories broadcast by languages, the history, culture, and spirit become more integrity, and have been the treasure of a nation. On the other hand, if the languages are not preserved, they will be lost in the end. For example, Mayan languages, from a language family spoken in northern Central America, have descended due to not being protected well. Hence, if a country has the ability to preserve the lesser-known languages, the human being will has more wealth.


However, to some government of countries, they should focus on other urgent issues which are more important than protecting languages, such as politics, economics. If a country lives in a chaos and mass condition, then it will have no energy to take care of languages’ problem, but rather to pay attention to how to keep the society stable, make people live in an abundant life, and develop the country. These issues may come first and urgent to the government. Otherwise, investing money to languages’ preservation, perhaps the country will extinct. In a word, in this situation, a government should pay more attention to more serious problems rather than languages.


Based on what have discussed above, we can know that whether a government need to take measurements to prevent lesser-known languages from becoming extinct depends on its own situation. If a government has the ability to do this, then the authority should try best to preserve these languages for they are the wealth of human being. Or the official should focus on other more urgent issues.

改蚂蚁的ISSUE13

It is a fact that many of the world's lesser-known languages are being lost for the reason that fewer and fewer people speak them. When it comes to the discussion about whether the government should act to prevent such languages from becoming extinct or not, according to my observation, I think the government should do something in protecting these languages and it has already done so in fact since languages play a significant role in our society. However, we should also keep in mind that the extinction of languages does not just depend on whether there is a government funding or not.
提出观点:政府应该保护语言。然而,语言的灭绝不仅仅是由于政府有没有保护。

In the first place, languages play an important role in keeping the integrity of our culture and ourselves as well. As the main carrier of our culture, languages keep and convey our history from our ancestors to us generation by generation. From the letters written on a paper to the folks or even to the body languages, all of which are different styles of languages, are formed, developed and passed down in our history, so we can understand a history of a society more comprehensively with the use of its own language. What's more, it is the language that upon which we depend to distinguish ourselves from others with different cultures. Without languages, we would lose the sense of pride, dignity and self-worth easily. It is also the reason why Japan forced the people in the northeast of China to learn Japanese during the World War Two. In short, languages are an important part of the culture of society and the government needs to protect the diminishing languages in order to keep the integrity of the society.

语言保证了文化的完整性。这一段论证得比较充分。

In the second place, after realizing the crucial role that the languages play, the government has already devote some resources to protect the languages which are becoming extinct. On the one hand, the government encourages the  minority people of the country who use the indigenous languages to keep on using them. In China, you can see in Tibet and Xijiang that the the
(删掉) schools for the minority students are teaching with two languages, their own language and the Chinese. On the other hand, the government also spends some money in researching those languages. The money is used to collect the materials of the languages, research those languages and propagate them. From this point of view, the government does not want to lose any kind of its languages since they are the treasure of  its society and has acted to protect them.
在认识到语言的重要后,政府投入了资源对其进行保护。一方面,鼓励少数民族使用他们的语言;另一方面,鼓励研究这些语言。

In the last analysis, we need not to be astonished that there are still some languages extinct even though with the help of the government for the reason that it is the need of the development of our society that makes this situation. Over the span of history, it is easy for us to find that we are throwing the old things and developing new things all the time, so do the language. We changed from bicycles to cars; we changed from letters to emails; we changed from a feudal society to a democratic society; all of which are for a better life.
(这几句话感觉跟论点没什么关系)So when it comes to the language, people will choose the same criteria to determine whether they would keep on using the language if the adverse effects brought about the language barriers overweigh the benefits it can produce. In a word, it is natural that a language would be discarded by people with the development of the society.
一些语言消失了我们也没必要震惊。其实这一段的例子你可以从语言的进化讲。有的语言并不是真正的消失了,而是进化了。

To sum up, language is important for a society, and it is the government's work to protect a language that is becoming extinct. However, though with the government's help, some languages would still be abandoned by people for a better life.


总结:由于你开头段的中心论点谈到了“有的语言的灭绝不是由于政府没有保护”,但是这个论点却没有在你的文章中得到阐述。另外,第四段论证得不是很充分。

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ISSUE13:Many of the world’s lesser-known languages are being lost as fewer and fewer people speak them. The governments of countries in which these languages are spoken should act to prevent such languages from becoming extinct.

There exist many other languages we do not know in the world except English, French, Chinese, and etc because a few people speak them(是因为说的人少我们就不知道吗?加入你住在南方,就一个县城就一种语言,而且这个县城离你很近,你会不知道?所以说的人少是他逐渐消失的原因,而不是他不被别人知道的原因。我可能钻牛角尖了。哈哈). The speaker claims that many of the world’s lesser-known languages are being lost. I concur with this assertion, and believe that the governments of countries in which these languages are used should prevent them from turning vanished if the governments have the ability to do so.
开头一方面说语言确实在消失;另一方面说政府应该力所能及的帮助保护这些语言。
Languages have the function to pass down a country‘s or a nation’s history, culture and spirit. Many history issues, traditional customs, and spirit have been passed by languages at first before literal came out. Yu fighting the flood, for instance in Chinese history, is a piece of history about a person named Yu how to deal with the Yellow River in China(dealing with the floods of Yellow River). One example in customs is Thanksgiving Day. There is no detail literal record to illustrate where the festival originated from, but a story handed down by people in order to appreciate help from others which finally becomes a culture in America(这句话好像少谓语成分)还有就是感恩节好像有确切的历史哦. A legend about a person wanted to remove a mountain shows the spirit of perseverance(虽然能明白你是按照历史,传统,精神来写的,但是你没有说明该点和语言的关系,好像前两点也没有,至少你要说明他们的传承和语言有关系,而不是简单的列举实例,虽然你后面有一句“随着他们被人们用语言传承下来”,但是这样没有照应是不好的。就像你和一个人在谈话,谈着谈着你说你中午要吃大餐,但是你们根本没有说吃饭的事情啊。正确的应该是这样,先说自己饿了,然后说这附近那个好吃,最后再说去吃什么。我是这么理解的。当然没有比这论述这么细致,但是连接上至少要让人感到顺畅). With the issues and stories broadcast by languages, the history, culture, and spirit become more integrity, and have been the treasure of a nation. On the other hand, if the languages are not preserved, they will be lost in the end. For example, Mayan languages, from a language family spoken in northern Central America, have descended due to not being protected well. Hence, if a country has the ability to preserve the lesser-known languages, the human being will has more wealth.
这段从两点“语言是财富和如果没有保护,语言会消失”但是第二点论证不详,第一点我的意见已经写出来了。
However, to some government of countries, they should focus on other urgent issues which are more important than protecting languages, such as politics, economics(最好在这里说明下,这些是他们保护语言的前提,因为你下面就是说的这个意思). If a country lives in a chaos and mass condition, then it will have no energy to take care of languages’ problem, but rather to pay attention to how to keep the society stable, make people live in an abundant life, and develop the country. These issues may come first and urgent to the government. Otherwise, investing money to languages’ preservation, perhaps the country will extinct.(最好要强调一下是没有前提的保护语言) In a word, in this situation, a government should pay more attention to more serious problems rather than protecting languages.
说明政府解决语言保护问题前要解决很多问题。但是论证不是很好,主要是连接和一些小的前提条件没有说清楚。已经在文中标出。
Based on what have discussed above, we can know that whether a government need to take measurements to prevent lesser-known languages from becoming extinct depends on its own situation. If a government has the ability to do this, then the authority should try its best to preserve these languages for they are the wealth of human being. Or the official should focus on other more urgent issues.
结尾能够照应作文的主体。
总结,正文两段之间跨度太大,主要是因为没有联系词或者转折的句子。
还有就是论证的时候小方面一定要把握住,要不然很没有说服力。
但是文章的整体思路还是清楚的。

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