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one way streetUID: 194590

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There is no such thing as purely objective observation. All observation is subjective; it is always guided by the observer's expectations or desires.
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What is the standard between objective and subjective observations? There may have different standards, however, the most important standard is whether individual factors such as personal judgment, emotion, background and preference included in observations. I agree with the speaker that there is no such thing as purely objective observations, but I do not think all observation is subjective.

We can hardly be objective when doing observations. There are two representative realms can offer sufficient supports to my standpoint------ art and literature. Observations are seldom purely objective in these two realms. Artists and writers observe the world with their own eyes and consequently, their works reflect variety opinions.

In the realm of art, artists need to melt personal emotions in their works. When we go to a painting show, we can feel the artist's emotion by seeing his or her painting and understand what the artist wants to express. The most important is, after visiting all the works, we have different feelings about different artists and form the initial impression of them. To give audiences dissimilar impressions and express their vary understandings of art, artists using different positions and views to observe things, and then creating vivid works. Therefore, observations in the art realm are subjective and individual factors are needed.

In another realm, the realm of literature, more individual factors are necessary. Literature is the work of creating, writers do not need to honestly reflect facts around them and record what they have seen completely. What matters for them is to truly show readers their values of the world, judgments of some social phenomenon, standards between rights and wrongs, good and bad, that is, writers' own points of view. What is more, during the course of writing, they should use their imaginations, personal experiences, diverse writing skills and even unique backgrounds. If writers observe everything with a objective standpoint, readers surely find little interests in their fictions.

After considering the realms of art and literature, it is not hard for us to say that there is no such thing as purely objective observations, nonetheless, we can not deny that there do exist objectivity in observations, and scientific research is a good illustration. As it is known to everyone, we trust scientists and believe scientific fruits just because science is independent of individual thoughts and accepted by humans. Scientists try their best to explain secrets of nature by a subjective way and avoid individual influence on the research. Human beings have a long history of science, many scientific theories had been modified several times and exhibited their subjectivity and rightness at last. One significant characteristic of science is that it can account for all same questions whenever they happen, wherever they come up. In another words, scientific observations are independent of observer's expectations or desires, and have a long-lasting meaning for humans.

We can draw a conclusion safely after considered all have mentioned above: there is no such thing as purely objective observation just as art and literature, however, objectivity do exist and independent of individual expectations or desires just as scientific observations.

[ Last edited by staralways on 2005-8-4 at 13:25 ]

czl223UID: 2120177

稍等啊，马上帮你改

czl223UID: 2120177

issue157 同主题互拍，留链接

------题目------
There is no such thing as purely objective observation. All observation is subjective; it is always guided by the observer's expectations or desires.
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下面我开始拍了，拍的太狠不要怪我啊，大不了你就狠狠的回拍，我承受的住的。


What is the standard between objective and subjective observations? 这句话应该是承认有了主观和客观观察之分了There may have different standards, however, the most important standard is whether individual factors such as personal judgment, emotion, background and preference included in observations.和下一句不是很连贯哦 I agree with the speaker that there is no such thing as purely objective observations, but I do not think all observation is subjective.这句话是不是矛盾了，前半句是说承认没有纯粹的客观观察，在我理解应该是观察或多或少有主观成分，然而后半句又说不认为所有的观察是主观的，就是说有的观察应该是客观的，不知我的理解是不是太偏激了，不过，不管怎么样，开头最好是很明了的论点或看法。虽然我知道你要说的是有些领域是客观的观察，有些是主观的观察，但这样表达是否欠妥？

We can hardly be objective when doing observations. There are two representative realms can offer sufficient supports to my standpoint------ art and literature. Observations are seldom purely objective in these two realms. Artists and writers observe the world with their own eyes [说具体点就是from different angle and with diverse thinking] and consequently, their works reflect variety opinions.
这一段不错，起到了承上启下的作用，赞一个

In the realm of art, artists need to melt personal emotions in their works. 分论点很好啊，学习啊When we go to a painting show, we can feel the artist's emotion by seeing his or her painting and understand what the artist wants to express. The most important is, after visiting all the works, we have different feelings about different artists and form the initial impression of them. To give audiences dissimilar impressions and express their vary understandings of art, artists using different positions and views to observe things, and then creating vivid works. Therefore, observations in the art realm are subjective and individual factors are needed.
8 错，我也挺喜欢分领域写的，有东西写，论证有力，容易展开，赞一个

In another realm, the realm of literature, more individual factors are necessary.这个论点就有问题了，没写完整，文学领域需要个人因素，应该是说文学领域的观察需要个人因素吧。 Literature is the work of creating, 加个and 的吧writers do not need to honestly reflect facts around them and record what they have seen completely. What matters for them is to truly show readers their values of the world, judgments of some social phenomenon, standards between rights and wrongs, good and bad, that is, writers' own points of view. What is more, during the course of writing, they should use their imaginations, personal experiences, diverse writing skills and even unique backgrounds. 在这有点牵强哦，写作是用到了主观方面的东西，可你并没有很好的写出所需的观察是主观的，重点在观察上If writers observe everything with a objective standpoint, readers surely find little interests in their fictions.

After considering the realms of art and literature, it is not hard for us to say that there is no such thing as purely objective observations, nonetheless, we can not deny that there do exist objectivity in observations, and scientific research is a good illustration. 这句话不错，引到了点子上了，赞一个。As it is known to everyone改为As it is well-known是不是好点呢, we trust scientists and believe scientific fruits just because science is independent of individual thoughts and accepted by humans. Scientists try their best to explain secrets of nature by a subjective是objective吧 way and avoid individual influence on the research. Human beings have a long history of science, many scientific theories had been modified several times and exhibited their subjectivity and rightness at last. One significant characteristic of science is that it can account for all same questions whenever they happen, wherever they come up. In another words, scientific observations are independent of observer's expectations or desires, and have a long-lasting meaning for humans.
这段不错啊，如果能少点理论论证，举个具体的例子就更好了
We can draw a conclusion safely after considered all have mentioned above: there is no such thing as purely objective observation just as art and literature, however, objectivity do exist and independent of individual expectations or desires just as scientific observations
结尾不错，能总结出整篇文章了，赞一个
总的来说，文章思路很清晰，逻辑不错，论证有待加强

拍的太狠了，希望你狠狠的回拍啊
https://bbs.gter.net/viewthread.php?tid=312179

one way streetUID: 194590

非常感谢阿亮！
这篇文章写得异常痛苦，写了好久。第一次尝试这种分领域写，很不会写。
你指出的问题很关键，我看了才发现那二个领域的确是没怎么写观察的主观或者客观问题。需要再修改一下，这样才能更好突出主题，是吧？
还有就是开头的问题，我感觉也是有点矛盾，可又不知道如何写比较条理清晰，你有什么好的建议呢？
多谢赐教！

one way streetUID: 194590

没有看到我的问题啊？

czl223UID: 2120177

需要再修改一下，这样才能更好突出主题，是吧？
是的要修改一下，重点突出主观客观观察
还有就是开头的问题，我感觉也是有点矛盾，可又不知道如何写比较条理清晰，你有什么好的建议呢、
开头可以改成这样：Although I agree that there is no such thing as purely objective observations in the arts and literature, but as for the science realm I disagree with the speaker's claim.
这样些既可以很好的说明论点，还让读者一目了然的知道了你下面要论证的内容，改卷时都是时间很短的，最好在开头就让改卷者知道你的ideas 是很清晰的，也省了他们伤神费脑，应该是不错的，个人观点啦

czl223UID: 2120177

我快考试了，帮我看看我模考的文章吧，就给点意见也行啊，谢谢了