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145 A new study collected data that shows that people who snore are more likely to gain weight than are people who do not snore. It is well known that many people who snore also stop breathing frequently during the night for a few seconds, a condition called sleep apnea. The interruption of breathing wakes the person—often so briefly that the waking goes unnoticed—and can leave the person too tired during the day to exercise. Anyone who snores, therefore, should try to eat less than the average person and to exercise more.

Out line: 1 指出作者犯了调查信息模糊,建立错误因果关系和无理假设的错误。
        2 调查没有指出调查了多少打呼噜的人以及其中有多少有睡眠呼吸中断,因此调查不具有代表性。
        3 没有证据证明打呼噜的人白天疲劳就不锻炼。不锻炼和长胖没有因果关系。
        4 如果调查可取,让疲劳的人少吃多动未必是好事,身体不一定能承受。变瘦不一定就是身体好。
        5 总结,应提供具体数据并证明锻炼对打呼噜的人有好处。

In this argument, the arguer recommends that anyone who snores should try to eat less than the average person and to exercise more. To support this conclusion the arguer quotes the result of a resent survey that people who snore are more likely to gain weight than are people who do not snore. Moreover the arguer points out that many people who snore have a condition called sleep apnea which can leave them too tired during the day to exercise. The argument seems at first glance to be a reasonable conclusion; however, it is unconvincing for the vaguer data of the survey, cause-effect fallacies and incredible assumption.

The major problem with this argument is that the reliability and generalization of the survey that the statement relies on are open to question. The arguer fails to provide any details of the survey. We are not informed that how many people who snore are surveyed and how many of these people have the sleep apnea condition. It is doubtable that whether the respondents constitute a sufficiently large sample so as to be representative of the people who snore. Besides the claim does not provide the proportion of people who have sleep apnea. It is possible that only 5% of people who snore have that condition, and then the conclusion people who snore are more likely to gain weight than are people who do not snore would be highly suspectable.

Another problem with this argument is that there is no evidence to prove the statement that the interruption of breathing can leave the person too tired to exercise. Perhaps, some people are very health conscious and insist on doing exercise even though they feel tired. Although the assumption may be true in some cases, but there is no causal relationship between doing no exercise and gaining weight. Many other factors such as eating habits, life style and internal secretion can affect weight. Therefore, without ruling out such optional explanations, the arguer cannot convince us that no exercise leads to gaining weight.

Before I come to my conclusion, it is necessary to point out another flaw that undermines the argument. Based on the study, the arguer recommends that anyone who snores should try to eat less than the average person and to exercise more. However, the study shows that people who snores feel weary during the day. If the survey is acceptable, it is definitely not a good idea to ask fatigued people to eat less and exercise more, because it may be beyond their bodily limits. Besides although gaining weight may not be good for health, losing weight does not necessarily indicate good physical condition as well. It is unwise to fight against weight at the cost of health.

To sum up, the conclusion lacks credibility because the evidence cited in the analysis does not lend strong support to the arguer’s claim. To make the argument more convincing, the arguer would have to provide more specific evidence concerning that how many people who snore and how many of them have sleep apnea. Besides the arguer would have to prove that to exercise more and eat less is beneficial for those people.

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发表于 2005-12-28 00:25:11 |只看该作者

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145 A new study collected data that shows that people who snore are more likely to gain weight than are people who do not snore. It is well known that many people who snore also stop breathing frequently during the night for a few seconds, a condition called sleep apnea. The interruption of breathing wakes the person—often so briefly that the waking goes unnoticed—and can leave the person too tired during the day to exercise. Anyone who snores, therefore, should try to eat less than the average person and to exercise more.

Out line: 1 指出作者犯了调查信息模糊,建立错误因果关系和无理假设的错误。
        2 调查没有指出调查了多少打呼噜的人以及其中有多少有睡眠呼吸中断,因此调查不具有代表性。
        3 没有证据证明打呼噜的人白天疲劳就不锻炼。不锻炼和长胖没有因果关系。
        4 如果调查可取,让疲劳的人少吃多动未必是好事,身体不一定能承受。变瘦不一定就是身体好。
        5 总结,应提供具体数据并证明锻炼对打呼噜的人有好处。

In this argument, the arguer recommends that anyone who snores should try to eat less than the average person and to exercise more. To support this conclusion the arguer quotes the result of a resent survey that people who snore are more likely to gain weight than are people who do not snore. Moreover the arguer points out that many people who snore have a condition called sleep apnea which can leave(cause?) them too tired during the day to exercise. The argument seems at first glance to be a reasonable conclusion(太不精简了,改为seems reasonalbe 不就好了吗?); however, it is unconvincing for the vaguer data of the survey, cause-effect fallacies and incredible assumption.

指出了下面要攻击的三个逻辑错误.

The major problem with this argument is that the reliability and generalization of the survey that the statement relies on are open to question. The arguer fails to provide any details of the survey. We are not informed that how many people who snore are surveyed and how many of these people have the sleep apnea condition. It is doubtable that whether the respondents constitute a sufficiently large sample so as to be representative of the people who snore. Besides the claim does not provide the proportion of people who have sleep apnea. It is possible that only 5% of people who snore have that condition, and then the conclusion people who snore are more likely to gain weight than are(这个are在这里怎么解释?) people who do not snore would be highly suspectable.
这段攻击survery的是很经典啊  呵呵 不错


Another problem with this argument is that there is no evidence to prove the statement that the interruption of breathing can leave the person too tired to exercise. Perhaps, some people are very health conscious and insist on doing exercise even though they feel tired. Although the assumption may be true in some cases, but(这种错误以后可不能再出现了,:@) there is no causal relationship between doing no exercise and gaining weight. Many other factors such as eating habits, life style and internal secretion can affect weight(:victory:). Therefore, without ruling out such optional explanations, the arguer cannot convince us that no exercise leads to gaining weight.
分析锻炼和体重之间没有必然的因果关系,关键就是找他因,分析的也不错:victory:

Before I come to my conclusion, it is necessary to point out another flaw that undermines the argument. Based on the study, the arguer recommends that anyone who snores should try to eat less than the average person and to exercise more(do more exercise ). However, the study shows that people who snores feel weary during the day. If the survey is acceptable, it is definitely not a good idea to ask fatigued people to eat less and exercise more, because it may be beyond their bodily limits. Besides although gaining weight may not be good for health, losing weight does not necessarily indicate good physical condition as well. It is unwise to fight against weight at the cost of health.
这个观点角度很好,我会写在这周总结里的  呵呵  :victory::victory:

To sum up, the conclusion lacks credibility because the evidence cited in the analysis does not lend strong support to the arguer’s claim. To make the argument more convincing, the arguer would have to provide more specific evidence concerning that how many people who snore and how many of them have sleep apnea. Besides the arguer would have to prove that to exercise more and eat less is beneficial for those people.

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argue写的比issue好多了 :lol
三个逻辑错误分析的都很彻底,到位


尤其是第三个,.........

呵呵

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