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作者: qwe1__rty2 时间: 2014-6-22 10:37:32 标题: 开贴统计各位phd一周的工作时间

本帖最后由 qwe1__rty2 于 2014-6-22 19:39 编辑

RT，比较好奇大家每周花多少时间在自己专业相关的工作（包括上课，TA，RA，etc）上，如果能具体结合自己的专业谈谈就更好了

作者: gternewbee 时间: 2014-6-22 12:10:08

叔自己一周除去gym和灌水，一周能保证100小时工作时间吧。叔对lab里面的两个新来的phd学生，就是要求一周40小时就好

作者: qwe1__rty2 时间: 2014-6-22 12:12:55

gternewbee 发表于 2014-6-22 12:10
叔自己一周除去gym和灌水，一周能保证100小时工作时间吧。叔对lab里面的两个新来的phd学生，就是要求一周40 ...

大叔现在第几年了？

作者: H1BMatch2012 时间: 2014-6-22 12:22:26

gternewbee 发表于 2014-6-22 12:10
叔自己一周除去gym和灌水，一周能保证100小时工作时间吧。叔对lab里面的两个新来的phd学生，就是要求一周40 ...

牛B，全靠自己干，这样的Professor我虽然见过几个，但还是稀有啊。你得学生享福了，坐享大paper。

作者: Enolate 时间: 2014-6-22 17:49:40

至少八十个小时吧，不然混不下去了

作者: gternewbee 时间: 2014-6-22 21:50:48

qwe1__rty2 发表于 2014-6-22 12:12
大叔现在第几年了？

叔菜鸟ap

作者: gternewbee 时间: 2014-6-22 21:51:14

H1BMatch2012 发表于 2014-6-22 12:22
牛B，全靠自己干，这样的Professor我虽然见过几个，但还是稀有啊。你得学生享福了，坐享大paper。

fresh ap，得先自己干啊

作者: qwe1__rty2 时间: 2014-6-23 07:29:38

gternewbee 发表于 2014-6-22 21:50
叔菜鸟ap

大叔V5！

作者: babyenoch 时间: 2014-6-23 10:28:56

围观faculty！！

作者: fifa1414 时间: 2014-6-29 14:06:29

at least 80 h

作者: ucstart 时间: 2014-6-29 14:32:10

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作者: qwe1__rty2 时间: 2014-6-29 19:09:37

fifa1414 发表于 2014-6-29 14:06
at least 80 h

你是什么专业的？80+h都在实验室吗？

作者: qwe1__rty2 时间: 2014-6-29 19:10:22

ucstart 发表于 2014-6-29 14:32
我读phd的时候一周工作30个小时吧。节奏自己掌握好，也没那么累。

这么少啊？什么专业的？

作者: Enolate 时间: 2014-7-1 13:25:08

Lab members:

Over the past several months, it has become clear to me that if there is no drastic change in the lab, Poo lab will soon cease to be a productive, first-rate lab that you chose to join in the first place. Lab progress reports over the past six months have clearly shown the lack of progress in most projects.

one year ago, when we first moved to Berkeley, I expressed clearly to everyone my expectation from eachone in the lab. The most important thing is what I consider to be sufficient amount of time and effort in the lab work. I mentioned that about 60 hr working time per week is what I consider the minimal time an average successful young scientist in these days has to put into the lab work.

There may be a few rare lucky fellows like Florian, who had two Nature papers in his sleeve already, can enjoy life for a while and still get a job offer from Harvard. Nobody else in the lab has Florian's luxury to play around. Thus I am imposing strict rules in the lab from now on:

1. Everyone works at least 50 hr a week in the lab （e.g.8+ hr a day, six days a week）. This is by far lower than what I am doing every day and throughout most of my career. You may be smarter or do not want to be successful, but I am not asking you to match my time in the lab.

2. By working, I mean real bench work. This does not include surfing on the computer and sending and receiving e-mails for non-scientific matters unrelated to your work （you can do this after work in the lab or at home, and excessive chatting on nonscientific matters. No long lunch break except special occasions. I suggest that everyone puts in at least 6 hr concentrated bench work and 2+ hr reading and other research-related activity each day. Reading papers and books should be done mostly after work. More time can be spent on reading, literature search and writing during working hours when you are ready for writing a paper.

3. I must be informeded in person by e-mail （even in my absence from the lab）when you are absent from the lab for a whole day or more. Inform me early your vacation plan. Taking more than 20 working days out of one year is the maximum to me. In fact, none of you are reporting any vacation and sick leave on your time sheet （against the university rule, although I have been signing the sheets））, but you know roughly how many days you were not here. On the whole, I understand and accept

the fact that you may not fulfill the above requirements all the time, due to health reasons, occasional personal business. But if you do not like to follow the rules because it is simply a matter of choice of life style, I respect your choice but suggest you start making plans immediately and leave the lab by the end of January 31. I will do my best to help you to locate a lab to transfer or to find a job. If you do accept the conditions I describe above, I am happy to continue to provide my best support to your work, hopefully more than I have done in the past. I will review the progress of everyone in the lab by the end of June of 2002. I expect everyone to have made sufficient progress in the research so that a good paper is in sight（at least to the level of J.Neuroscience. If you cannot meet this goal at that time, I will have to ask you to prepare to leave my lab by the end of August.

As a scientist, you must dedicate everything to this business

8-hour is unpractical. There is NO way for a scientist or a Ph.D student to work only 8 hours a day!

Go to your mother’s house for afternoon naps and never come back!

5 weeks per year (Chinese New Year, the May Day and the National Day breaks are included)

Start your morning work not later than 8:30 am and afternoon work no later than 1 pm

Surf over the Internet for non-scientific purposes should be less than 30 min a day

Reading newspapers should be limited less than 30 min a day

Novels or other non-scientific journals/magazines are not permitted in the lab and office

If you are absent from the lab more than one hour, get permission first.

Everyone has personal business, but the lab business always has priority unless in emergency

In this business, an “average” student who works seven days a week is definitely more productive than a “genius” who works five days a week

If you are able to make any major progresses by working 8 hours a day and 5 days a week, every fortunate in this world must be on your side!

我觉得完全靠自觉吧，每个人都需要有自己的时间和空间，光接收和科研有关的信息是不行的

作者: 铂 时间: 2014-7-3 11:49:16

Enolate 发表于 2014-7-1 13:25
Lab members:

Over the past several months, it has become clear to me that if there is no drastic ...

E版是这个lab的？

作者: Enolate 时间: 2014-7-3 11:54:37

铂发表于 2014-7-3 11:49
E版是这个lab的？

当然不是啦。。这个人是Berkeley的-。-

作者: 铂 时间: 2014-7-3 12:53:18

Enolate 发表于 2014-7-3 11:54
当然不是啦。。这个人是Berkeley的-。-

他不也在复旦呆过么。。。

而且伯克利也有可能啊 = =

作者: Enolate 时间: 2014-7-3 13:31:06

铂发表于 2014-7-3 12:53
他不也在复旦呆过么。。。

而且伯克利也有可能啊 = =

伯克利我要仰望~~~
我就是在网上看到这个email, 所以贴过来啦

作者: 铂 时间: 2014-7-3 15:40:53

Enolate 发表于 2014-7-3 13:31
伯克利我要仰望~~~
我就是在网上看到这个email, 所以贴过来啦

竟然他的学生要把这种内部邮件贴出来。。。积怨是有多深啊。。。（如果是真的话）

作者: Enolate 时间: 2014-7-3 18:11:54

铂发表于 2014-7-3 15:40
竟然他的学生要把这种内部邮件贴出来。。。积怨是有多深啊。。。（如果是真的话）

额额额= =。。。我也不知道是谁贴的，说不定是他自己呢~

作者: MaxFeburarybird 时间: 2014-7-8 05:26:29

硕士时候两个专业差不多一周 70 hours，有的时候很忙的周是 80+ hours

作者: rexue70 时间: 2014-7-16 13:46:12

回来看看老朋友的帖子，我也开始选校了恩。

作者: xiaohau 时间: 2014-7-17 00:53:22

作者: xiaohau 时间: 2014-7-17 00:53:24

作者: qwe1__rty2 时间: 2014-8-30 21:50:08

当了一周TA，我也来分享一下：

自己上课：3门课10小时，作业10-20小时
TA：带3个lab，课上时间6小时（每个section 2小时），改作业2-3小时，office hours 2小时，meeting with lab coordinator 1小时，自己做实验+备课 3小时，跟学生email交流、通知等 2小时，跟其他TA协调处理杂事 1小时

这一周大概是 40-50小时工作量

作者: szm蓝色天空 时间: 2014-8-30 22:06:23

这个看不同阶段，不同人吧，只能算是笼统的统计吧

作者: timohuu 时间: 2014-8-31 07:03:32

qwe1__rty2 发表于 2014-8-30 21:50
当了一周TA，我也来分享一下：

自己上课：3门课10小时，作业10-20小时

听说很多人不喜欢干TA，因为干TA的人不仅要干TA还要干RA，不过TA的好处就是可以锻炼口语。。。做RA路过

作者: qwe1__rty2 时间: 2014-8-31 08:34:35

timohuu 发表于 2014-8-31 07:03
听说很多人不喜欢干TA，因为干TA的人不仅要干TA还要干RA，不过TA的好处就是可以锻炼口语。。。做RA路过

我们是这样，第一年没有导师全是TA，第二年进组了大部分人就不用当TA了

作者: timohuu 时间: 2014-8-31 09:07:22

qwe1__rty2 发表于 2014-8-31 08:34
我们是这样，第一年没有导师全是TA，第二年进组了大部分人就不用当TA了

soga，我个人觉得TA比较坑，RA还好点。。BTW，你第一周老师就开始布置作业啊

作者: qwe1__rty2 时间: 2014-8-31 09:13:28

timohuu 发表于 2014-8-31 09:07
soga，我个人觉得TA比较坑，RA还好点。。BTW，你第一周老师就开始布置作业啊

对啊，号称review，然后发现本科学的全忘了。。。。

作者: timohuu 时间: 2014-8-31 09:16:36

qwe1__rty2 发表于 2014-8-31 09:13
对啊，号称review，然后发现本科学的全忘了。。。。

你估计也是选了三门课吧？唉，我现在学的课，本科就没学过。。。:L

作者: qiuqiuqiuqiuz 时间: 2015-1-2 08:22:20

文科Master RA 工作时间浮动比较大，最忙的时候30个小时一周，偶尔老板忙得没空搭理我就不用干活儿了。文科RA的好处就是大多数时候可以在家干活儿，读paper写lit review。除非是录数据的时候必须要在办公室弄。最想死的活儿就是transcription，耳朵都听出茧子了。。。

作者: Elizabelaw 时间: 2015-2-26 17:03:30

qiuqiuqiuqiuz 发表于 2015-1-2 08:22
文科Master RA 工作时间浮动比较大，最忙的时候30个小时一周，偶尔老板忙得没空搭理我就不用干活儿了。文 ...

诶！文科也有RA的机会吗？一般做什么呢？

作者: qiuqiuqiuqiuz 时间: 2015-2-26 21:36:22

Elizabelaw 发表于 2015-2-26 17:03
诶！文科也有RA的机会吗？一般做什么呢？

做一切老板不想做的事儿，比如帮老板读paper，写summary，写literature review，写proposal，发调查问卷收集数据，录数据，打采访录音，还有订饭。。。

作者: Elizabelaw 时间: 2015-2-26 21:38:51

qiuqiuqiuqiuz 发表于 2015-2-26 21:36
做一切老板不想做的事儿，比如帮老板读paper，写summary，写literature review，写proposal，发调查问卷收 ...

连proposal都会要学生写啊…那看来得学术能力很强才有可能了…
谢谢～～

作者: 490560 时间: 2015-2-26 21:39:48

qiuqiuqiuqiuz 发表于 2015-2-26 21:36
做一切老板不想做的事儿，比如帮老板读paper，写summary，写literature review，写proposal，发调查问卷收 ...

这是保姆么:lol

作者: qiuqiuqiuqiuz 时间: 2015-2-26 21:42:28

490560 发表于 2015-2-26 21:39
这是保姆么

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