【新】McGill金融学硕士MMF项目

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旋转长颈鹿 发表于 2017-2-15 00:16
McGill的同学最好也要关注“硬实力”的培养

https://www.mcgill.ca/desautels/programs/mmf/program-structure (Six 6-Week Modules)

比較一下之後, 我笑了, hahaha...ooops, 糟了, 笑到肚痛了.....

what!? fixed program structure, no flexibility on electives? normally a 1Y MSF still have a bit electives for some-called focus/stream to leave a bit room for more advanced / specialized course

and tons of general finance (CFA stuffs) for hard skill training!? way too interesting.....

it is a big joke to compare it with Schulich one in terms of hard skill. At least you can see things like core financial econometrics, elective course stochastic calculus, advanced derivatives there, while in the McGill one, you won't even find one single course in stat for finance, not to mention any graduate level price / risk modelling.....

from a maths point of view, this McGill one is weak one, not only from quant point of view, but also from MSF point of view when comparing with peers.

actually, I don't think hard skill training is important for those Chinese going to this MMF (since 反正沒有).
French skill is way more important...........getting a general finance supporting role after PR seems to be the most likely outcome.



P.S. at the end, who cares about a pre-experience soft master in finance in US/UK system (unless it is a top/target school like LBS MIT and etc...)?
If the company want a specialist, why not take someone in accounting, law, math & stat or CS?
If the company want a business generalist, there are tons of local bachelor from various famous university....

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旋转长颈鹿 发表于 2017-2-15 22:23
Bro, you are too critical for a new program...haha

Being new is not a excuse for providing good/bad service......especially when the price (tuition fee!!!) will not be cheaper for a new one, not to mention the time cost.

Lack of electives is not something related to the age of the program too. It is likely either "the class size is too small" or "the department want to milk more from the students"

Lack of quantitative subject is again not something related to the age of the program. It is just a style - not something good or bad, just problem of fit or not. (and that's why it is called MMF instead of MSF - management instead of science)



Actually I don't think this McGill MMF is a very bad one - famous general university reputation but not famous business school, common general finance program structure, some industrial connection and internship to leverage. These are all good stuffs for some people.
imagine an Canadian students with a non-business bachelor, say art or social science. He/she speak some French, and want to work in Quebec. Then this is a decent soft master for switching to finance;
imagine a French business student (e.g. HEC or whatever) want to relocate to Quebece. This will be a decent one for him/her.

but this kind of soft finance master definitely don't fit most Chinese applicant - don't fit at all. 中国学生又多了一个读Finance的去处 is just 中国学生又多了一个读Finance的坑.

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旋转长颈鹿 发表于 2017-2-15 22:50
这也是为啥之前那个哈登拼命说McGill商学院牛逼的时候，我要稍微泼下冷水。从一个专业的课程设置，至少能看出这个学校开设这个专业的能力。我不会质疑McGill这所顶级学校的能力，那剩下能被质疑的只有诚意了。可能McGill不太care自己的商科专业吧？所以才没有诚意好好地设置自己的商学院的专业，我好像只能这样理解。（McGill的商学院名字叫Desautels Faculty of Managemeng，从名字就能看出来这个院系的弱小，连School都不是，只是Faculty。。）

不过我觉得多个读Finance的选择，对中国学生还是好事。现在的加拿大金融行业和专业服务业越来越多的华人和亚裔从业者。现在商学院的金融和会计专业基本都是过半数的中国学生，未来这些学生毕业汇入职场，未来肯定会进一步加快华人dominate金融业的趋势。毕竟占领金融业，要先从占领商学院开始。这是好事，也是好的愿景。

McGill 的business school是canada二流這個大家心中有數.
講真, 他這個MMF, 看起來也是二流水平, 很合理.

加上是在法語區, 對中國學生是不是好事這個就..........毕业汇入职场甚麼的, 我覺得會有一堆不明不白見名校就拜, 又低估學第二外語的難度, 之後被坑的居多.......


英美式教育, 一流頂尖名校, 基本都不看重bachelor level, pre-experience level的business education的.
McGill作為加拿大頂尖之一, 不怎注重這類MMF是理所當然的.

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旋转长颈鹿 发表于 2017-2-16 22:25
作为顶级名校，门类齐全是一个重要指标，尤其在中国人群体里的心理排名，商科作为大量中国学生的选择，是 ...

1. top tier university normally not focus business education at undergraduate, or pre-experience master level much, especially those non-technical one. They only care about MBA (practical) and PhD (academics research).

2. 中国人群体里的心理排名 doesn't depend on business school much, else Yale, Oxford, Cambridge wont have that highly-regarded.

3. Finance is a high-concentrated industry - most job are all in a few financial centres, leaving really a few elsewhere. Therefore I don't really understand the point of Quebec + Finance indeed....

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jd2504u123tesr 发表于 2017-2-16 22:36
qc相对对有法语基础的人有一定的拿pr优势，加上便宜，人都流出，非法语区学生基本也很少来，相对稳定一 ...

[英美澳加] 沒錢學人讀甚麼business school?? [/英美澳加]

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jd2504u123tesr 发表于 2017-2-16 22:36
qc相对对有法语基础的人有一定的拿pr优势，加上便宜，人都流出，非法语区学生基本也很少来，相对稳定一 ...

再講, 有法語基礎的中國人又有幾多呢?
除了某些special reason之外, 想讀Finance, 懂法語的, 何必去Quebec呢? 直接去法國不好?
Paris比Quebec的market大多了.....
雖則, 法國讀個Grande Ecole, 兩年, 再中間加一年實習, 學費也要3萬歐.

不過如果某人是"懂法語+想讀business+錢不夠"的話, 九成九九都是自找的.....
誰叫他自己選讀法語去法國的? 早就該諗德語去德國, 零學費算了.......