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本篇文章中的逻辑思维走了不一样的路,特别是最后两段,但是,这样的方式是 新颖的文章还是走题?

TOPIC: ISSUE7 -"The video camera provides such an accurate and convincing record ofcontemporary life that it has become a more important form of documentationthan written records."

TIME: 00:45:00
DATE: 2010-6-24
Early in the 20th century, a newinvention has extended the meaning of "Seeing is believing" to abroader scope, in which incident happened in the past could be stored for laterreview. This new form of documentation has much more strength than writtenrecord which depicts incidence with personal memory. In addition, video camera’sdigital storage makes preservation easier and immense and it can be sharedamong ordinary people who can afford few hundred dollars to make a record ofwhatever they want.
Accurately and vividly as it may perform,video camera does has certain merits which other kind of instrument can’tcompare with. By providing us with the most direct visual and audio presentation,video camera can be considered as an unprecedented device for people torecapture the past and store the present. Admittedly, video camera can offer usaccurate and convincing record of contemporary life. It empowers people to filmwhat they see and what they want to share with others, irrespective of time andplace, or even party and dictatorship. To certain extent, video camera is a blessing.The availability of video camera to ordinary people makes scrutinizing authority’smisbehaviors and misleading much easier and objective. During the 1989 TianAnMen massacre, thousands of students fought against the tyranny of governmentand sadly been repressed by tanks and guns. Without the help of video camera,the following generations could barely grasp as much information as possible ifthis event were only documented by words. The written words describing howpeople were killed were less direct than video camera displaying tanks drivingabove the young students’ bodies.


Yet a conclusion that video camera isunquestionably superior to written record seems hasty and ill-conceived. Writtenrecords wield the magic of imagination as one of its merits, in another words,readers actively receive the message from written records. When reading novels,human’s imagination soars and goes beyond the boundary of what we can see from videocamera. Of course, videos can present the event colorfully and vividly, but itdoes not have the function of interpretation. In this data deluge world, theleast thing we lack is information, and producing information has become suchan easy job that everyone can create and share with others. But how many peoplecan find diamond among all the waste? What we need may not just convincingrecord but analysis. Written words, luckily, contain the power ofinterpretation. Finding interesting and meaningful record out of abundant dulldata could be much more valuable than just documentation itself. Furthermore,video can not guarantee its records are all inclusive, while hence, videocamera is as inaccurate as written records.

Medium, be it written record or radio, be itfilm or video camera, are in themselves neither superior nor inferior in theform of documentation. Just like flowers, one can never make the universalproof that rose is much better than lily, since both of them add to the beautyof land, and each of them has specific aroma and shape to make them unique. Eachmedium has specific edge too; written documentation is proved to be the bestform to present thoughts and ideas, to interpret meanings and evoke readers toimagine. Video camera, on the other hand, could be an authentic form ofdocumentation to recapture the happened event for future historian to explore.

By comparing the two means of documentation,we seems to place all the fame and blame to technology, while neglecting theobjectivity of messages carried through these forms and the creators who behindthese media. The speaker might give us a false or veneer image that documentcould be more accurate and true if it were documented by video camera. Any new mediumthat seems to add to the accuracy of documentation might actually add to theinaccuracy of the document, which ironically, falls to the manipulation ofinterest-groups or certain showcase project. Images can be retouched bysettings and new technology. Those who wield video camera can decide what toshoot and what to neglect. Different interest-groups might present us opposite videosof what happened during the Tibetan riot in 2008; the Chinese governmentdenounced the subversive in showing the injury of policemen; youtube mayrelease others videos telling us that local policemen suppressed the minoritygroups by guns and weapons. Then, in the eyes of historian, who are telling thetruth?

For better orworse, information, both authentic and forged, would swamp anyone who wants toknow something. Media, both new and old, would convey what they are told to.And we, as the receiver of information, have to be skeptic about what we see.Don’t believe all we hear and all we see might be the newly motto to deal withthe ‘We Media” world.


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本帖最后由 yogurt4 于 2010-7-5 23:20 编辑

题目对比written records跟video, 是站在documentation的角度上的。written records跟video哪个更好,题目给出的理由是video的纪录更精确,更让人信服,就像你说的,眼见为实。

中间你写written records可以激起人的想像力,我觉得就没有什么必要。作为documentation,最不需要的就是想像力,而是让后来的人在看到纪录的时候,最大限度的接近纪录下的“事实”。题目暗含的意思,就是希望避免因为纪录方式产生的对“事实”理解的偏差。就拿tibet riot的例子来说,youtube提供的影像是不是事实?当然发生过,但是看的人就很容易产生误解。大可以再拿另外一段video出来说话,但是很多事请,不是光有video就能解释清楚的。摄影镜头不能先知先觉,将能引发蝴蝶效应的人,事一一提前纪录;很多历史问题,更是发生在video诞生之前;accurate固然是video纪录的一个优点,也是video纪录的一个明显缺点:它不能浓缩!不能将重点分离于无关紧要的琐碎!所以written records的重要性来了:the power of interpretation.

正文很多地方我也不能够认同。In this data deluge world, the least thing we lack is information, and producing information has become suchan easy job that everyone can create and share with others. 信息过量,到处都充斥着垃圾information,written records跟documentation都存在着同样的问题。而且,摄像师,靠文笔纪录的作者,也都存在刻意引导大众,强加自我认识的可能。

Each medium has specific edge too; written documentation is proved to be the bestform to present thoughts and ideas, to interpret meanings and evoke readers toimagine. Video camera, on the other hand, could be an authentic form ofdocumentation to recapture the happened event for future historian to explore. 这里写的很不错,不过我觉得不能跟前面rose做对比,没有说服力;后面comparing the two means of documentation,写video的缺点太过,理由我也说了,刻意引导的问题written records也有。
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“摄影镜头不能先知先觉,将能引发蝴蝶效应的人,事一一提前纪录;很多历史问题,更是发生在video诞生之前;accurate固然是video纪录的一个优点,也是video纪录的一个明显缺点:它不能浓缩!不能将重点分离于无关紧要的琐碎!所以written records的重要性来了:the power of interpretation.”
  学到了, 我也觉得自己好像没有办法说 interpretation 的这个点,原来应该是这么论证的,谢谢斑竹
  
斑竹: 我的逻辑思路是:
1. video camera 有好的地方, 生动,精确
2,但是,也有不好的地方,它一样能够成为 利益集团的工具
3,此篇在对比 摄像与纸质文件的时候, 似乎在引导我们说 video因为更加的准确和信服, 可以 完全的信赖,这其实在制造一种烟雾, 忽略制造这些信息的人,
4, 我们没有办法去比较这两种工具,如同不能比较 玫瑰和lili 哪个更漂亮一样,而我们,应该学会的是如何在此两种工具的利用时候,学会 critical thinking, be skeptical

斑竹,特别是最后的两段,我有超出题目的范围写话题吗? 我没有办法 把握 新颖 和 离题 ///////
求斑竹给我意见

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2# yogurt4

摄影镜头不能先知先觉,将能引发蝴蝶效应的人,事一一提前纪录;很多历史问题,更是发生在video诞生之前;accurate固然是video纪录的一个优点,也是video纪录的一个明显缺点:它不能浓缩!不能将重点分离于无关紧要的琐碎!所以written records的重要性来了:thepower of interpretation.”

  学到了, 我也觉得自己好像没有办法说 interpretation 的这个点,原来应该是这么论证的,谢谢斑竹
  
斑竹: 我的逻辑思路是:
1. video camera 有好的地方, 生动,精确
2,但是,也有不好的地方,.....

3,此篇在对比 摄像与纸质文件的时候, 似乎在引导我们说 video因为更加的准确和信服, 可以 完全的信赖,这其实在制造一种烟雾, 忽略制造这些信息的人,
4, 我们没有办法去比较这两种工具,如同不能比较 玫瑰和lili 哪个更漂亮一样,而我们,应该学会的是如何在此两种工具的利用时候,学会 critical thinking, be skeptical

斑竹,特别是最后的两段(3.4 点),我有超出题目的范围写话题吗? 我没有办法 把握 新颖 和 离题 ///////
求斑竹给我意见

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本帖最后由 yogurt4 于 2010-7-7 09:55 编辑

倒是没有超出题目的范围来写。但是这样写逻辑上来说很“弱”。
个人觉得video跟written records都能成为利益集团的工具,但是这个没有什么写的价值。
打个比方来说,武林大会第一二名决赛。底下观众想看的是谁的武功更高,手法更漂亮,擂台下的人想看的是实力对决,强强碰撞。绝大部分人都不会希望两个选手出现谁背后有后台,谁又被潜规则的现象,虽然这有可能就是操纵比赛结果的事实。

放到题目来看,我作为读者,我就希望看到video跟written records, 在排除掉人为因素,两种纪录手段在各自best performance的情况下,是不是一个比另一个更适合documentation.
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原来在这里,哈哈。。谢谢前辈。。
我重新写了一遍,你看看。。我让我的一位老师帮我改了,蓝色的地方是我犯错(中国人常错的吧,估计)的地方,然后我改了逻辑顺序一些,没有了imagination,你看看

TOPIC: ISSUE7 - "The video camera provides such an accurate and convincing record of contemporary life that it has become a more important form of documentation than written records."

TIME: 00:45:00
DATE: 2010-6-24

On the eve of the 20th century, the whole world has accelerated the speed of transmitting and sharing information with the help of emerging media. From radio to television, from kinetoscope to video camera, every new medium holds invincible power to revolutionize former communication pattern. And, the video camera, as the most persuasive transmission to date, extended the meaning of “seeing is believing” to a broader scope, in which incidents that happened in the past could be stored for later review. This new form of documentation, as claimed from the argument, has much more strength than the written record on depicting incidents with relatively objective evidence. Yet what were claimed as strengths could be, viewing from different angle, the (No “the”, right ?) weaknesses. And the (No “The”, right?) reasons to justify my argument will be presented as follows.
Accurately and vividly as it may perform, the video camera does have certain merits which other kinds of instrument can’t compare with it. By providing us with the most direct visual and audio presentation, the video camera can be considered as an unprecedented device for ordinary people to make a record of their daily lives. It also empowers people to film what they see and what they want to share with others, irrespective of time and place. To certain degree, the video camera is a blessing. The availability of video camera to ordinary people makes scrutinizing authority’s misbehaviors and misleading much easier and evidence-based. During the 1989 Tiananmen massacre, thousands of students fought against the tyranny of government and sadly were repressed by tanks and guns. Without the help of the video camera, the following generations could barely grasp as much information as what we have today if this event were only documented by words. The written words describing how people were killed were less direct than the video camera displaying tanks driving over the young students’ bodies.


Yet a conclusion that video camera is unquestionably superior to written record seems hasty and ill-conceived. Of course, the video camera can present events colorfully and vividly, but it does not have the function of interpretation. In this data deluge world, the least thing we lack is information, and producing information has become such an easy job that everyone can create and share with others. But how many people can find diamond among all the humdrum data? What we need may not just convincing record but analysis. Written records, luckily, wield the incredible power to interpret meanings out of different phenomena. If we just watch the videos on Tiananmen event, Jun 4th, we might want to know who these people are; why did they fight against the government, and who pulled the trigger and what happened after the event. Of course video might shed some light on some of these questions, but videos might not have the ability to elucidate the effect of this event, whereas books can give us more deep interpretations.

Media, be they written records or radios, be they film or videos, are in themselves neither superior nor inferior in the form of documentation. Just like flowers, one can never make the universal statement that rose is much better than lily, since both of them add to life’s beauty, and each of them has a specific aroma and shape to make them unique. Each medium has its own specific edge too; written documentation is proved to be the best form to present thoughts and ideas, to interpret meanings and enhance readers’ imaginations. Video camera, on the other hand, could be an authentic form of documentation to capture events for future historians to explore.

By comparing the two means of documentation, we seems to place all the fame and blame
on technology, while neglecting the objectivity of messages that are carried through these forms and the creators who lie behind these media transmissions. The speaker might give us a false or veneer image so the document could be a more accurate and true reflection of what took place if it were documented by the video camera. Any new medium that seems to add to the accuracy of documentation might actually add to the inaccuracy of the document, which ironically, falls to the manipulation of special interest-groups or certain showcase projects. Images can be retouched by settings and new technology. Those who wield the video camera can decide what to shoot and what to omit. Different interest-groups might present us with opposing videos of what happened during the Tibetan riots in 2008; the Chinese government denounced the subversives in showing the injury to policemen; youtube may release other videos telling us that local policemen suppressed the minority groups with guns and weapons. Then, in the eyes of historians, the problem arises as to who is telling the truth?


For better or worse, information, both authentic and forged, could swamp anyone who wants to know something. Media, both new and old, would convey what they are told to. And we, as the receiver of information, have to be skeptical about what we see. Don’t believe all we hear and all we see might be the new motto to deal with the ‘New Media” world.



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