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issue147
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"Tradition and modernization are incompatible. One must choose between them."


提纲:

1. It seems like that tradition and modernization are a couple of enemies from there definition.

1)
Tradition refers to the beliefs, values, customs , ways of life, etc., which has handed down from generation to generation in a society.

2)
Modernization refers to the technology, the open-minds, the process of urbanization and individual, or in a large sense, westernization. Such as Christmas

2.
However, both of them, tradition and modernization can exist in the society at the same time for their relationship.

1)
the development of modernization is effected by the tradition. Such at thanksgiving day we express our thanks to others. However, we do not take turkey as dinner because our ancients did not have the same experience as the ancients in USA.


2)

Many tradition things which handed over absolved modernization , such as technology. passing bless to each other by email or telephone instead of the tradition mail

3.
there is no need that we must choose between tradition and modernization.





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The discussion of the issue that tradition and modernization are incompatible, as a result, one person must choose between them. At the glance, the opinion seems somewhat convincing, but further reflection tells me that I can not agree with it completely.

It seems the truth that tradition and modernization are incompatible form their definition. Tradition refers to the beliefs, values, customs, ways of life, etc., which has handed down from generation to generation in a society. While modernization refers to the technology, the open-minds, the process of urbanization and individual, or in a large sense, westernization. If one person lead an old way of live or solve some problems with an old value or beliefs, we will definite him or her as an out of date person and, sometimes, look down such kind of person. All of us want to have a good relationship with others who are surrounding us. So , as a result, we are try our best to go away the condition with being definited out of date. And that seems the reason why tradition and modernization are incompatible. However, is that the truth?

Believe or not, tradition takes a great efforts in the development of the modernization. The beliefs, values and some custom only can be handed down from generation to generation. Without the same experiment and the period of the history, another country or people can hardly accept the tradition totally. Such as in the thanksgiving day, as one of the traditional festival in the western country, more and more people express their own thanks to others. However, as the result of different development of the history which without the stave period time as in the USA,
there are few people will eat turkey as their dinner which plays an important part in thanks giving day .

And at the same time, modernization cause some different in our traditional life. As we all know, with the development of the technology, as one part of modernization, our life become more and more convenient. With the appearance of TV or phone or IT, we have open-eyes for this society. And what’s more, contacting with other countries, we make a better understand and, as some one definite, more modernization.


As the relationship between the tradition and the modernization, there is no needs hat we must choose one between tradition and modernization. Many trational wisdoms are still relevant and can inspiring us to research for the solution to the present problems. And modernization can bring our better lives. As in many countries, there are modern urban where persons earn their money and lead their lives, and at the same time, there are also tradition countries where persons gathering together celebrate their own traditional festival.
So, both of them can exist in this society.


What we should do is that trying our best to balance the benefit both tradition and modernization. Both of them are important parts in our daily life, we have no need to abandon each of them.
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本帖最后由 德芬郡奶油 于 2010-7-7 17:50 编辑

The discussion of the issue that tradition and modernization are incompatible (看不懂), as a result, one person (删除) must choose between them. At the (a) glance, the opinion seems somewhat convincing, but further reflection tells me that I can not agree with it completely.
典型的Argu开篇,且看你怎么展开。

It seems the truth (
删除) that tradition and modernization are incompatible form (显然是想写from,但是这里放from也不合适) their definition. Tradition refers to the beliefs, values, customs, ways of life, etc., which has (have been) handed down from generation to generation in a society. While modernization refers to the technology, the open-minds (open minds), the process of urbanization and individual (?), or in a large sense, westernization. If one person leads an old way of live or solves some problems with an old value or beliefs (in a traditional way), we will definite (define? regard?) him or her as an out of date (outdated) person and, sometimes, look down (upon) such kind of person (him/her). All of us want to have a good relationship with others who are surrounding (around) us. So, as a result, (删除) we are (删除) try our best to go away the condition with being definited out of date (avoid being categorized as outdated). And that seems the reason why tradition and modernization are incompatible. However, is that the truth?
先指明两者在概念上的不一致,然后指出“过时”的人容易被鄙视,出于和周围的人打好关系的需要,让自己不显得过时很重要。段尾卖了一个关子。

Believe (it) or not, tradition takes a great efforts (plays an important role) in the development (process) of the modernization. The beliefs, values and some customs only can be handed down from generation to generation. Without the same experiment (experience) and the period of the history, another country or people can hardly accept the tradition totally (Chinglish). Such as in the (on) Thanksgiving Day, as (
删除) one of the traditional festivals in the western countries, more and more people express their own (删除) thanks to others. However, as the result of different development of the history which without the stave period time as in the USA, there are few people will eat turkey as their dinner which plays an important part in thanks giving day. (典型的句子杂糅)
这一段又转过来说传统很重要。

And at the same time, modernization cause
s some different (differences) in our traditional life. As we all know, with the development of the (删除) technology, as one part of modernization, (删除) our life becomes (life is becoming) more and more convenient. With the appearance (advent) of TV or phone or IT (Internet), we have open-eyes for this society (our horizons are broadened). And what’s more, contacting with other countries, we make a better understand and, as some one definite, more modernization. (Chinglish+过多插入语)
这段说现代化对生活的影响。

As the relationship between the tradition and the modernization (
删除), there is no needs hat we must choose one (need to choose) between tradition and modernization. Many trational (traditional) wisdoms are still relevant and can inspire us to research (search) for the solutions to the present problems. And (, while) modernization can bring our (us) better lives. As (删除) in many countries, there are modern urban where persons earn their money and lead their lives (看不懂), and at the same time, there are also traditional countries where persons gathering together celebrate their own traditional festival (people get together to celebrate traditional festivals).
这段说两者可以共存,以及互相影响。

So, both of them can exist in this society.
这个exist放在这里怎么看怎么别扭。)

What we should do is that (
删除) trying our best to balance the benefit both tradition and modernization (缺少成分). Both of them are important parts in our daily life, we have no need to abandon each of them (Chinglish+缺少连接词).

每个论点都很清楚,但是都论述得不透彻,思想的深度不够。还有就是,语言表达不畅,影响信息传递。

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PS:文字也是有血有肉的,你如何对它,它如何对你。

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PS:文字也是有血有肉的,你如何对它,它如何对你。
德芬郡奶油 发表于 2010-7-7 17:29
每次看到你的帖子就会比较关注那个“肉”

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1# raysun77

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7.07 欢迎拍文修改小组 issue 147-by ray

issue147
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"Tradition and modernization are incompatible. One must choose between them."

提纲:

1. It seems like that tradition and modernization are a couple of enemies from there definition.
1)
Tradition refers to the beliefs, values, customs , ways of life, etc., which has handed down from generation to generation in a society.

2)
Modernization refers to the technology, the open-minds, the process of urbanization and individual, or in a large sense, westernization. Such as Christmas

2.
However, both of them, tradition and modernization can exist in the society at the same time for their relationship.

1)
the development of modernization is effected by the tradition. Such at thanksgiving day we express our thanks to others. However, we do not take turkey as dinner because our ancients did not have the same experience as the ancients in USA.


2)

Many tradition things which handed over absolved modernization , such as technology. passing bless to each other by email or telephone instead of the tradition mail

3.
there is no need that we must choose between tradition and modernization.

正文:
The discussion of the issue that tradition and modernization are incompatible, as a result, one person must choose between them. At the glance, the opinion seems somewhat convincing, but further reflection tells me that I can not(你也爱这样,以后改成cannot) agree with it completely.(就我之前的教训来讲,所谓issueissue范儿,就是把它写成一个论证自己观点的文章,希望你也思考这个问题)
It seems the truthit is true that or it is the truth that that tradition and modernization are incompatible form their definition. Tradition refers to the beliefs, values, customs, ways of life, etc., which has handed down from generation to generation in a society. While modernization refers to the technology, the open-minds, the process of urbanization and individual, or in a large sense, westernization. If one person lead an old way of live or solve some problems with an old value or beliefs, we will definite him or her as an out of date person and, sometimes, look down such kind of person. All of us want to have a good relationship with others who are surrounding us. So , as a result, we are try(trying) our best to go(keep) away (from)the condition of)with being definited (to be)out of date. And that seems the reason why tradition and modernization are incompatible. However, is that the truth?(还是议论文的风格问题,我不建议你在issue中寻求模式上的创新。因为你这段看上去像是开头的继续,或者说还没有进入论证,believe or not)
Believe or not, tradition takes a great efforts in the development of the modernization. The beliefs, values and some custom only can be handed down from generation to generation. Without the same experimentexperience and the period of the history, another country or people can hardly accept the tradition totally. Such as in the thanksgiving day, as one of the traditional festival in the western country, more and more people express their own thanks to others. However, as the result of different development of the history which without the stave period time as in the USA,(我还是想说你应该彻底的抛弃中式英语,保持思路清晰,比如说这一段,你的例子是在支持第一句还是第二句?又对你的观点起了怎样的作用,我很着急)
there are few people will eat turkey as their dinner which plays an important part in thanks giving day .

And at the same time, modernization cause some different in our traditional life. As we all know, with the development of the technology, as one part of modernization, our life become more and more convenient. With the appearance of TV or andphone or(and) IT, we have open-eyes for this society. And what’s more, contacting with other countries, we make a better understand and, as some one definite, more modernization(你的句子真的让人费解).

As tothe relationship between the tradition and the modernization, there is no needs (like that)hat we must choose one between tradition and modernization. Many trational wisdoms are still relevant and can inspiring us to research for the solution to the present problems. And modernization can bring our better lives. As in many countries, there are modern urban where persons earn their money and lead their lives, and at the same time, there are also tradition countries where persons gathering together celebrate their own traditional festival.
So, both of them can exist in this society.

What we should do is that trying our best to balance(balance,首先,在你的文章中没有体现,而且方向也不对) the benefit both tradition and modernization. Both of them are important parts in our daily life, we have no need to abandon each of them.

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新手,先来学习了。好好看看文章和诸牛牛们的改写

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发表于 2010-7-8 06:22:14 |只看该作者
看了奶油和fchenyan对你文章得修改,很受启发(他们好仔细哦)
我也发表一下自己的小建议啦
1、对于Chinglish的问题,你可以通过练习翻译一步步克服(个人觉得很管用)
2、总感觉你的论证有些绕,停留在表层而不深入,不能很通彻痛快的支持自己的观点。建议你可以先写中文的提纲,详细点,把自己的观点、论据、主要的分析论证写出来。
你要觉得有道理的话,可以一试

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发表于 2010-7-8 11:00:11 |只看该作者
8# yanii

这段时间一直在想怎么改Chinglish的问题, 你的方法给我启发很大哦,谢谢你:handshake

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