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发表于 2010-1-1 17:34:20 |显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 saybia1993 于 2010-1-26 22:43 编辑

ISSUE 212
“if a goal is worthy, then any means taken to attain it is justifiable.”





Thousands of years , human beings made progress because of the trying to achieve many wothy goals. This strong desire is always the engine to push the wheel of history ahead. However, I don’t agree with the speaker on the assertion that we can attain a worthy goal by any means.
First, one man's candy maybe another man's poison. The worthy of a goal varies from person to person, counrty to country. For the goal of “common prosperity” in Aisa. Japan start the war in Chnia. Plunder resources, encroach lands for the goal of union perhaps means allocation resources, stimulate economics in some Japanese generals’ view. But the method for achieveing “common prosperity” go against the basic world view of human beings. The war is cruel, barbarous, violating other countries’ sovereignty. Especially, the goal which beneath the “common prosperity” is just agression. This goal maybe worthy for few people, neverthless, no ordinary people will support the agression no matter what it does for.
Second, although some goals are good for most people., we must take the method of achieveing these goals into consideration. In 2005, the world second biggest microchip producer AMD put forward the antitrust litigation to INTEL, accused INTEL used its money and relationship between several computer companies to monopolize the microchip industry for the maximum profits. The file which AMD submitted to the court contains the accusation about lots of illegeal competition, especially the so called exclusive dealing agreements which lead SONY only use the microchip from INTEL for 5 years and TOSHIBA only use the microchip from INTEL for 7years. All these situation lead AMD’s market share in microchip industry decrease year by year. Commical competition is good for most people in general. It avoids monopoly and stimulates the manufacturers concern about quality and price. But, the illegal method in competition usually lead disorder and new monopoly in marketing.
However, In order to save American economics from financial crisis in the year 2008-2009, American government decreaseed the interest, debased the value of dollars, especially, the government injected lots of capital to the two real estate enterprices which were on the verge of bankruptcy: FannieMae and Freddie Mac. In spite of negative effects such as a high financial deficit, unfair in real estate marketing, these means taken to save the US market are useful and it avoid the worse situation, indeed.
To put everything in a nut shell, even a goal can be considerd worthy, we still can’t achieve it by any means. We must take all the situation into consideration, only the cost of the method is reality and legal, can we use them to achieve our worthy goals.



> <   憋了半天憋完了,写的很不好,3 4段有点牵强了。论据真的很重要。没货就没的写。
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发表于 2010-1-1 18:25:24 |显示全部楼层
There is a saying popular with the masses that if a goal is worthy, then any means taken to attain it is justifiable. I don’t agree with it. Even if a goal is worthy to according to one’s personal value system, the means taken to attain it is still under certain confined conditions and restrictions.
From the development process of human beings, it is definitely necessary to attach great importance to a dream and go for it with proper methods. This strong desire and efficient action is always the engine to push the wheel of history ahead. If our ancestors in the primitive ages had not have the wish to conquer the harsh nature, there would not have the original idea to devise and make out the tools from bones or stones, to facilitate their daily hunting and expedition. If they had not the desire to reserve the raw meat for a longer time, the discovery of fire, which is without the shadow of doubt the most significant event in human history, would be put off. Thus so, to have a dream and find ways to attain it is indispensable to accelerate cultural process.
However, according to the author, any means could be taken in order to attain a “worthy” goal. I should argue that a goal is worthy or not, there is no basic standard. Everyone has his own educational, cultural and religious background; therefore, he may have his own sayings about “worth”. A simple example is estate construction. If there is a new mansion under construction, undoubtedly the landlords will happy to see it be built day and night, continuously in 24 hours. It is worthy because it saves time and therefore add its economic value. But to the habitants in the neighborhood, the construction during night is absolutely unacceptable. It disturbs them sleeping and do harm to their health. Therefore, one man's candy is another man's poison. Choosing the means to attain a goal is on the basis of impairing other people’s benefit.
Moreover, even if one goal is justified to be worthy one time, it is not always true. The world is changing every day. What is reasonable these days can become uncalled for in next decades. In last century, some people sensitively sniffed the big economic benefit behind transforming forest land into plow land. They cut down trees on the hill, and planted many farm crops on it. For one thing, it could feed more people in the family, for another, they could make fortune by selling surplus grain. It is worthy in that time. But several years later, they have to concede the land to forestry due to the worse environment and global warming, and for the benefit of future development. Thus so a goal is worthy or not is also judged by the time. Only if it stands the test of time and good for sustainable development, can it deserve people’s endeavor to attain it.
On the other hand, even if a goal is worthy, not any means to attain it is justifiable. The measure to be taken should not be hotheaded or extreme. For instance, many people claim that in order to eliminate gender discrimination thoroughly, we should abandon the prenatal diagnose procedure. This is not sensible. Necessary check and care necessary to ensure the safety of both mother-to-be and the baby. Therefore, this method to avoid gender discrimination is not justifiable, even if the goal is worthy in common value system.
To put everything in a nut shell, there is no wrong to enrich one’s personal life and do contribution to the society, but the way to achieve the goal need to be weighed over before putting the thought into practice.
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发表于 2010-1-1 19:18:23 |显示全部楼层
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发表于 2010-1-1 19:19:07 |显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 shenxianhu 于 2010-1-1 20:11 编辑

修改 saybia1993
Thousands of years ,human beings made progress because of the trying to achieve many worthy goals.This strong desire is always the engine to push the wheel of history ahead.However, I don’t agree with the speaker on the assertion that we can attain aworthy goal by any means.

First, one man's candy may be another man's poison. The worth of a goal variesfrom person to person, country to country. For the goal of “common prosperity” in Asia, Japan started the war in China. Plundering resources, encroaching lands for the goal of union perhaps means allocationresources, stimulate economics in some Japanese generals’ view. But the methodfor achieveing “common prosperity” goes against the basic world view of human beings. The war iscruel, barbarous, violating other countries’ sovereignty. Especially,the goal which beneathes the “common prosperity” is just aggressive. This goal may be worthy for fewpeople, nevertheless, no ordinary people will support the aggression no matter what itdoes for.

Second, although some goals are good for most people,we must take the methods of achieving these goals into consideration. In 2005, the world secondbiggest microchip producer AMD put forward the antitrust litigation to INTEL,accused INTEL used its money and relationship between several computercompanies to monopolize the microchip industry for the maximum profits. Thefile which AMD submitted to the court contains the accusation about lots of illegal competition,especially the so called exclusive dealing agreements which lead SONY only usethe microchip from INTEL for 5 years and TOSHIBA only use the microchip fromINTEL for 7years. All these situations
leaded AMD’s market share in microchip industry decreased year by year. Commercial competition isgood for most people in general. It avoids monopoly and stimulates themanufacturers concern about quality and price. But, the illegal methods in competitionusually lead disorder and new monopoly in marketing.

However, In order to save American economics fromfinancial crisis in the year 2008-2009, American government decreased the interest,debased the value of dollars, especially, the government injected lots ofcapital to the two real estate enterprices which were on the verge ofbankruptcy: FannieMae and Freddie Mac. In spite of negative effects such as ahigh financial deficit, unfair in real estate marketing, these means taken tosave the US market are useful and it avoid the worse situation, indeed.

To put everything in a nut shell, even a goal can be considered worthy, we stillcan’t achieve it by any means. We must take all the situation intoconsideration, only the cost of the method is reality and legal, can we usethem to achieve our worthy goals.

建议lz先把拼写检查了再发上来,第一遍看都在检查拼写了,另外还有一些语法问题(如你举的例子都是过去的,很多动词都要注意过去式)
我觉得后面两个例子挺好的,但是看后面两个感觉都在举例子,有点单薄,是不是加点论述好点(我自己也常常只写例子缺少论述,呵呵)。这样那个however转的就不会那么突兀了,对前后的衔接也好些?
另外,开头Introduction是不是应该对下面的论述有个总体的概括好些?
以上都是一些比较低级的建议,一些高层次的意见我还没这个能力发表。lz觉得我说的不好请指出

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发表于 2010-1-1 19:20:15 |显示全部楼层
212. If a goal is worthy, then any means taken to attain it is justifiable.

只要值得,不择手段达到目的是合理的。
提纲:一,不同意作者的观点,要弄清楚worthyjustifiable的判断标准。我们要用合理的方法取得成功。
      二, 关于if a goal is worthy 的讨论。个人层面(不能危害了其他人和社会这个整体)和社会层面(要符合大众的利益而且不能危害大众的利益,还不能被一些人或政党绑架)。
      三,即使一个目标是worthy的,达到这个目标的方法也必须得要合理,合法。个人的目标怎么样?(被社会唾弃或者被法律惩罚)社会的目标怎么样?(引起群众的不满,动乱甚至是冲突)
      四,即使有时候会用一些不太好的手段获取成功,但是这种成功是建立在利益大于支出的基础上的。实现这种目标的方法是合理的。
      五,我们要用合理的方法取得有意义的成功。为社会和个人创造最大的利益。

In our contemporary society, there is a controversy over the issue that whether the means taken to attain a worthy goal is justifiable, no matter it is noble or low. In my opinion, great attention must be paid to the worth of our goals and the justice of the ways we use. In a sense, we should achieve our objectives appropriately.



In the first place, a full understanding of the worth of a goal is necessary. Everyone treats the goal which brings them benefits as a worthy one in the reason of human's egoism. Nevertheless, since people live in a society, their benefits interacts with others of the society, and no one can deny that one's achievement must not base on the consumption of other people's interests. On the one hand, any individual's goal should not jeopardize the benefits of the others or the society as a whole, if not beneficial to them. On the other hand, the goal of an organization, a nation or the society should propel the improvement of its members instead of bringing harm to them or being utilized for the personal purpose. Only all these aspects are available can a goal be considered worthy.



In the second place, after determining the worth of a goal, we will use all we have to make the goal come true. Does it mean that every means we use to achieve the goal which is proved to be worthy is justifiable just as the author asserts? Absolutely no, our processes for getting the foal must be conformed to our morality and laws. If an individual attains his or her destination in an irrational way, everyone of the society treats him or her as a loser rather than a successor. What's more, he or she may be punished by law if the damage they bring to the society is huge. An apt example is the Madoff's crime of fraud. He swindled so much money that he was judged into prison for 150 years. On the other side, when it comes to the society's goal, the method used to accomplish it must be built on the whole society's benefits. If not, insurgences, even incidences of violence, may come up. No wonder there were so many demonstrations outside the conference of Cobenhagen. Because this conference, viewed as one essential step of solving the problem of green house, did not consider benefits of many little island countries. So only through proper means can we get the goal hopefully, happily and effectively.



What's more, some processes that harm someone's benefits do exist in our society. Can we view them as lawless? I do not think so. Firstly, the goal it achieves, in other words, the benefits it gets through this way, is obviously more than what it costs. Secondly, though some harm it brings to our society, it does not violate the law. At last, no one treats it as an ugly thing because of the advancements it emerges. After thinking about this deeply, we conclude that this kind of means is also an appropriate way to success.



To sum up, using appropriate ways to get the significant goal is justifiable. By doing so we make more benefits for our society and ourselves as well.

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发表于 2010-1-1 19:32:32 |显示全部楼层
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I concede that we ought to come up with methods to achieve the goal which is worthy as many as possible. But the speaker wrongly asserts that we should take any means to attain it. I will give several reasons as discuss below.(这段最后一句好不要这么写吧,换种说法)
  Basically, we need to make sure of that the effect of this method does not violate ethics. The clone is a good example to explain this notion. Almost all the counties ban human cloning, but why we do not clone a human being, and then take organs from him, so that we will not concern about the regular supply of human organs needed by particularly patients. The reason is obviously, it is considered to ethically impermissible. Accordingly, although the benefit of cloning human is quite tempting, we cannot but give up doing it.
  In addition, we ought to think of the obstacles of this method caused by endanger others benefit. Many means we use will jeopardize other people's benefits; it will cause a lot of obstacles we need not to meet. For instance, if a chemical industry set up in an urban, it would to be more convenient to sale its product, but we hardly see any chemical industry set up in the urban, because the citizen will hold a demonstration against it. And the most likely result is that the industry is driven out of the city. As a consequence, we should consider this negative result when we make the plan.
  Finally, we should ensure that the cost of this mean is not too expensive, at least, it do not compromise the more important thing we are doing. The Strategic Defense Initiative is a failed project we are all known. In order to support this plan, government has at least invested over 100 billion dollars on "SDI" and follow-on programs which can be used to establish many fundamental facilities, like hospitals and schools. So, the cost of the method cannot cost too much.
   However, I do not mean that we mean that(读的不是很顺) we need not to consider various methods to achieve goals we think worthy. The most important information I want to express is that we must consider some taboos when we make decision to attain a goal through a method.
  In general, the premise of choosing methods to attain worthy goals has three aspects. Firstly, we should take care of humanity. Secondly, we should not harm deeply to the people around us. Finally, we should take care of the cost of this mean.


作者思路很清晰,层次也比较分明。但是正文第一段是不是少了些论证啊,直接来例子不是太好吧。总体上觉得比较好,找不出什么太大的毛病。

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发表于 2010-1-1 20:10:31 |显示全部楼层
观点:
1首先,我们应该衡量哪些目标是值得的。不同的人会产生不同的想法,从而产生冲突和矛盾,对于那些满足大部分人利益,促进进步的目标,不仅值得,而且应该提倡。比如影片2012中,政府为了防止引起骚乱而封锁了大灾难的消息。另外,对于产出大于投入的也是值得的,比如一个人为了考研放弃了半年的休息时间,他认为值得的。
2.其次,在目标值得的前提下,我们也应该对方法手段深思熟虑。一是要合法,二是要符合道德规范。比如三鹿事件。
3.为什么实际中很多人会不择手段达到目的?一是压力造成的。如现在青少年中的一股不择手段的风气就是压力过大。二是人们本身的贪欲和野心产生恶性竞争,导致剑走偏锋,不择手段。
4总结,只有我们对目标的价值有个客观理性的分析,只有我们的方法得当,为了值得的目标积极进去值得学习提倡。但同时我们也应该小心避免那些打着幌子却为满足自己目的的行为。

Is it justifiable to obtain a goal by any means if the goal is worthy? It’s tempting to agree with  the speaker’s assertion. However, the extreme assertion did not hit the key points entirely ignoring the very notion of the worth of a goal and actually not all means which to achieve the goal are justified even if a goal is worthy, as discussed below.

Whether a goal is worthy or not is rarely a straightforward issue. The worthiness of a goal depends by case-on-case basis. On the one hand, if the benefits overwhelms the cost,the goal might be thought to be worthy to attain. Consider the goal of passing the examination. If I need to spend only one day reviewing for the exam, the goal might be worthy. But if I have to reduce half a year’s working time for it, the goal might be not worthy to reach. Yet if I am going to have Graduate Record Examination, half a year might be worthwhile because the worthiness of the goal has been appreciated. On the other hand, as we know, different human beings keep respective perspectives about the same goal that results in conflicts necessarily. As a result, we should attribute the goal to worthy if it fulfills the most people. Take the film called “2012” as an example. To ensure the safety of people and the order of society, the governments of all countries have to keep the secrets that a catastrophe is coming in 2012 which will cause the widespread destruction and the extinction of species. Even though this action means the offence to the right that citizens should know the facts. Suppose governments confess the very coming crisis, the world will go in chaos and more people will die in violence.

Admittedly, the worthy goal encourages us to try our best to fight for it. Even though many means are able to bring us to attain the goal, we have to be circumspect about them and consider them seriously. Considering the goal to bring financial interest for the corporation as a leader, anyone would agree that the goal is highly worthy apart from the means used to attain it. But what if those means involve running away from morality? Or what if they involve desecrating laws? Take Sanlu tainted milk scandal as a example. Tian Wenhua, the former chairwoman and the general manager of Sanlu Group in China, was sentenced to life in prison for producing and selling fake and substandard milk products contained melamine. This action was for the goal of profit maximization which was tempting to be worthy for commercial merits of Sanlu Group. Nevertheless, it disobeyed the law and ethics, then resulted harmful effects not only on human being but also the society.

In fact, many people adopted means which appear to be harmful and far away from the law and the morality just because of strong pressure and powerful ambitions. Recently a survey which was conducted by New York Times showed that about 46 percent young people think they can adopt abominable means to achieve the goal because of the tremendous pressure. The pressure which comes from competition easily cause adolescents to cheat in exams and plagiarize for the goal. In additions, it’s greed and ambitions that drive businessmen to take part in blind competition for their commercial interest.

In sum, it’s valuable and advocating for the hard work based on a real worthy goal, as long as we have a objective and reasonable analysis of the worthiness of a goal, and as long as we adopt adaptive means which are compatible with laws and morality. However, we should be alert to the possibility that individuals, organizations or governments tend to plead a worthy goal in excuse of their contemptible means and private interests.

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发表于 2010-1-1 21:21:30 |显示全部楼层
Issue212:“If a goal is worthy, then any means taken to attain it is justifiable.”

There is much debate over the issue that taking any means to pursue a worthy goal. Some people believe that they could do anything to gain everything they want; on the other hand, others maintain that they should achieve a goal in a proper way. In my point of view, I prefer the latter one.
Firstly, it should be encouraged that pursuing a goal under moral and law. It can realize one's value. Thomas Edison invented light bulb after his many times failure. But also it can promote progress of the society. He also spent several years creating the electric industry.
Secondly, it should be forbidden to gain success through illegal ways. It will destroy the one who achieve success violating laws. The Enron scandal, revealed in October 2001, involved the energy company Enron and the accounting, auditing, and consultancy partnership of Arthur Andersen.  These two companies fell down because of cheating and tax evasion. Moreover, it can bring bad effects to the society. Take the Financial Crisis in 2008 for example. The mainly cause of global financial crisis in 2008 is that many practitioners lack of ethics. Bankers cared money much more than social responsibility.
To sum up, people should take justifiable means to pursue a goal.

等着被拍砖。憋了好久,才出来这么一点。自我检讨下:例子不够充分,词汇不够多样性。看到前面几位都写这么好,汗颜啊

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发表于 2010-1-1 21:46:22 |显示全部楼层
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Is it justifiable to obtain a goal by any means if the goal is worthy? It’s tempting to agree with  the speaker’s assertion. However, the extreme assertion did not hit the key points entirely ignoring the very notion of the worth of a goal and actually not all means which to achieve the goal are justified even if a goal is worthy, as discussed below. (此长句是否应分为两句?要不然前后时态不一致。)

Whether a goal is worthy or not is rarely a straightforward issue. The worthiness of a goal depends by case-on-case basis. On the one hand, if the benefits overwhelms the cost,the goal might be thought to be worthy to attain. Consider the goal of passing the examination. If I need to spend only one day reviewing for the exam, the goal might be worthy. But if I have to reduce half a year’s working(个人认为可删除该词) time for it, the goal might be not worthy to reach. Yet if I am going to have Graduate Record Examination, half a year might be worthwhile because the worthiness of the goal has been appreciated. On the other hand, as we know, different human beings keep respective perspectives about the same goal that results in conflicts necessarily. As a result, we should attribute the goal to be worthy if it fulfills the most people(感觉少了东西,加个value是否更好些?). Take the film called “2012” as an example. To ensure the safety of people and the order of society, the governments of all countries have to keep the secrets that a catastrophe is coming in 2012 which will cause the widespread destruction and the extinction of species. Even though this action means the offence to the right that citizens should know the facts. Suppose governments confess the very coming crisis, the world will go in chaos and more people will die in violence.

Admittedly, the worthy goal encourages us to try our best to fight for it. Even though many means are able to bring us to attain the goal, we have to be circumspect about them and consider them seriously. Considering the goal to bring financial interest for the corporation as a leader, anyone would agree that the goal is highly worthy apart from the means used to attain it. But what if those means involve running away from morality? Or what if they involve desecrating laws? Take Sanlu tainted milk scandal as an example. Tian Wenhua, the former chairwoman and the general manager of Sanlu Group in China, was sentenced to life in prison for producing and selling fake and substandard milk products contained melamine. This action was for the goal of profit maximization which was tempting to be worthy for commercial merits of Sanlu Group. Nevertheless, it disobeyed the law and ethics, then resulted harmful effects not only on human being but also the society.

In fact, many people adopted means which appear to be harmful and far away from the law and the morality just because of strong pressure and powerful ambitions. Recently a survey which was conducted by New York Times showed that about 46 percent young people think they can adopt abominable means to achieve the goal because of the tremendous pressure. The pressure which comes from competition easily causes adolescents to cheat in exams and plagiarize for the goal. In additions, it’s greed and ambitions that drive businessmen to take part in blind competition for their commercial interest.

In sum, it’s valuable and advocating for the hard work based on a real worthy goal, as long as we have an objective and reasonable analysis of the worthiness of a goal, and as long as we adopt adaptive means which are compatible with laws and morality. However, we should be alert to the possibility that individuals, organizations or governments tend to plead a worthy goal in excuse of their contemptible means and private interests.

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发表于 2010-1-1 21:55:23 |显示全部楼层

212 "If a goal is worthy, then any means taken to attain it is justifiable."

Life needs a goal, it is the source of motivation, and makes our lives meaningful. it might be tempting to agree with the speaker, based on we ought to try our best to attain our goals. However, the assertion that any means can be taken to attain the worthy goal is, to some extent, too extremely.


At the first threshold, I think it is better to give "a worthy goal" a clear definition. First, the goal must base on reasoning and logic. If one's target is producing a perpetual machine, he or she in the end is doomed to failure. As we all know such a goal is violate law of conservation of energy. At least, in nowadays, any means to take to attain such a goal would be only a waste of time and resources. Second, to the individual, a worthy goal should benefit your development. There is, more often than not, no essence to make a goal like sleeping 20 hours a day, or drinking as much as one can everyday. Third, and also the most important is that as a great goal in your mind, it should benefits your surroundings, even the whole society, although other people would have their own perspective to the ultimate worth of the goal. For example, physicist want to develop the use of atomic energy to replace the fossil fuel in order to reduce the pollution, many people would oppose for fear of the result would apply on a new atomic bomb. It is natural by virtue of differing values, backgrounds, and experience. However, it is also irreproachable for the physicist's goal. And we also should encourage his or her wills for benefiting environment and human being.


Then, the fundamental problem with the statement is neglect that any means taken to the goal should not come into sharp contradiction with the morality and, at least, laws. A business man is able to get more wealth through monopolism; a politician is able to get more power through fascism. But, as we all know that, overconcentration of power and wealth will lead to threat to the fairness of whole society and injures the majority of social members' benefits. Of course, the means taken to the goals are unjustifiable. An even more remarkable modern example was Adolf Hitler,
who, invaded Poland and triggered the Second World War for the sake of pulling German out of the economic crisis in 1930s. The goal that saving German is no doubt worthy for most of people, however the war bring too much death, refugees, fear and sorrow to the people nearly all of the world. To Hitler, he could not escape from failure; to us, it is impossible to admit his means to his goal is justifiable also.


Moreover, you need to keep a clear consciousness of efficiency and effectivity when you take means for your goal as far as possible, although it is hard to assess the actions you have taken are indeed appropriated. For instance, It would never be a good choice to ride a bike from Beijing to New York for an emergency meeting, because beside impossible, it lacks of efficiency and effectivity. Even if finally you make it, the means is unjustifiable.


In sum, I can hardly agree with the speaker's assertion altogether. In my opinion, to a worthy goal, only choose legal and reasoning means to attain it, would be it justifiable leaving with no doubt. It should be a principle to guide our daily lives.

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发表于 2010-1-1 22:26:34 |显示全部楼层
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Life needs a goal, it is the source of motivation, and makes our lives meaningful.It might be tempting to agree with the speaker, based on we ought to try our best to attain our goals. However, the assertion that any means can be taken to attain the worthy goal is, to some extent, too extremely.

At the first threshold, I think it is better to give "a worthy goal" a clear definition. First, the goal must base on reasoning and logic. If one's target is producing a perpetual machine, he or she in the end is doomed to failure. As we all know such a goal is violate law of conservation of energy. At least, in nowadays, any means to take to attain such a goal would be only a waste of time and resources. Second, to the individual, a worthy goal should benefit your development. There is, more often than not, no essence to make a goal like sleeping 20 hours a day, or drinking as much as one can every day. Third, and also the most important is that as a great goal in your mind, it should benefits your surroundings, even the whole society, although other people would have their own perspective to the ultimate worth of the goal. For example, physicists want to develop the use of atomic energy to replace the fossil fuel in order to reduce the pollution, many people would oppose for fear of the result applied on a new atomic bomb. It is natural by virtue of differing values, backgrounds, and experience. However, it is also irreproachable for the physicists' goal. And we also should encourage his or her wills for benefiting environment and human being.

Then, the fundamental problem with the statement is neglect that any means taken to the goal should not come into sharp contradiction with the morality and, at least, laws. A business man is able to get more wealth through monopolism; a politician is able to get more power through fascism. But, as we all know that, overconcentration of power and wealth will lead to threat to the fairness of the whole society and injure the majority of social members' benefits. Of course, the means taken to the goals are unjustifiable. An even more remarkable modern example was Adolf Hitler, who, invaded Poland and triggered the Second World War for the sake of pulling German out of the economic crisis in 1930s. The goal that saving German is no doubt worthy for most of people, however the war bring too much death, refugees, fear and sorrow to the people nearly all of the world. To Hitler, he could not escape from failure; to us, it is impossible to admit his means to his goal is justifiable also.

Moreover, you need to keep a clear consciousness of efficiency and effectivity when you take means for your goal as far as possible, although it is hard to assess the actions you have taken are indeed appropriated. For instance, It would never be a good choice to ride a bike from Beijing to New York for an emergency meeting, because beside impossible, it lacks of efficiency and effectivity. Even if finally you make it, the means is unjustifiable.

In sum, I can hardly agree with the speaker's assertion altogether. In my opinion, to a worthy goal, only choosing legal and reasoning means to attain it, would be it(删除) justifiable leaving with no doubt(这句感觉不通). It should be a principle to guide our daily lives.

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There is much debate over the issue that whether it is justifiable to taketaking any means to pursue a worthy goal. Some people believe that they could do anything to gain everything they want(读着别扭 some people believe that anything can be done to gain their goals; on the other hand, others maintain that they should achieve a goal in a proper way. In my point of view, I prefer the latter one.
Firstly, it should be encouraged that pursuing a goal under moral and law. It can realize one's value
(遵纪守法可以实现个人价值?你出的另一个issue题目?). Thomas Edison invented light bulb after his many times failure. But also it can promote progress of the society. He also spent several years creating the electric industry. (爱迪生发明灯泡和他遵纪守法有啥关系?)
Secondly, it should be forbidden to gain success through illegal ways. It
it指代的是what? will destroy the one who achieve success violating laws. The Enron scandal revealed in October 2001, involved the energy company Enron and its accounting, auditing, and consultancy partnership of Arthur Andersen.  These two companies fell down because of cheating and tax evasion. Moreover, it can bring bad effects to the society. Take the Financial Crisis in 2008 for example. The mainly cause of global financial crisis in 2008 is that many practitioners lack of ethics. (Another example is the financial crisis in 2008, whose mainly cause is…) Bankers cared money much more than social responsibility.
To sum up, people should take justifiable means to pursue a goal.

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本帖最后由 mikestone 于 2010-1-2 01:00 编辑

懒蚂蚁帮我改过的:
212"If a goal is worthy, then any means taken to attain it is justifiable."

To attain a worthy-goal, we can always find several means. Some of them are harmful and others are harmless. Those harmful ones are unjustifiable and can’t be considered.
第一段不错,很简单的陈述出自己的思想。但是是不是可以补充完成呢,有害的是不可取的,那么无害的呢?无害的还有什么分别没有?像效率问题啊,什么的,这只是补充用,个人愚见
In our daily life, we can usually find some methods to fulfill a goal. There are lots of examples. In a science research, if we want to know the spread of H1N1, different kinds of models can be established, and to obtain a model, many approaches are applicable. Another example is that to make money, we can look for a job in a company, or manage our own business. Therefore, we can always choose an appropriate method to attain the goal.(这段主要是说可以找一个合适的方法来完成目标,也就是最后一句。但是呢开头并没有体现出了,个人建议开头说明。还有就是H1N1的例子不充分,都有什么方法》没有说明啊)

However, since some means are harmful, we should not consider them, even they may be effective. These methods can be divided into several groups. The first is that: Some means may damage the society directly. For example, someone wants to make money by selling drugs. This will be harmful to the health of those who use drugs and destroy their lives. Other examples, such as steal, rob and pirate, can be easily provided. If these means are justifiable, why does government punish these criminals? The second is that: Some means may cause problems that damage our lives. For instance, to make more profits, a factory drains poisonous water into river directly. Although the factory lowers the cost, the river is deeply polluted. These means seemed justifiable 200 yeas ago, since no one realized environment problems. However, nowadays not until it meets the secure standard, drainage from a factory is permitted. Therefore, these means are unjustifiable, and the government may establish laws and standards to limit them. The third is that: The efficiency of some means may be lower. We say these means are harmful, because they cost too much energy, resource, time or effort, such as the mathematical calculations. We have computers now; however, 60 year ago, mathematicians calculated the equations themselves. The results given by computers may be imprecise, but sufficient. They can save a lot of time, especially in weather forecasting. Therefore, if person-computation is justifiable, it is of no use to raise computers.
这段观点明确,层次清楚。但是还有几个小问题:最后一个方面的例子不好,人算浪费能量?还有就是都是短句,不太好。

Moreover, there are lots of means seem justifiable to some person, organization or government may be harmful to others. We must treat these separately. An example is that to study the space, countries, such as America, develop spaceships. Since America has enough money, scientists and resource, it is harmless. However, to some countries of South Africa, it is harmful; because they need money to solve many problems like food, water, dress and so on. So, development of spaceship is unjustifiable for these countries. In addition, cooperation is required sometimes. It is well known that to prove the big bang theory, many European countries join a program that establishing a Large Hadron Collider. They may develop this technology separately, however that is of course unjustifiable.
为什么??你都说要国际合作了?为什么又unjustifiable?(我想separately就可以说明他们自己单独搞了)
In sum, to attain a worthy goal, we must choose an appropriate means. Those harmful means are unjustifiable.


修改yuxiang1900

212 "If a goal is worthy, then any means taken to attain it is justifiable."



Life needs a goal, it is the source of motivation, and makes our lives meaningful. it might be tempting to agree with the speaker, based on we ought to try our best to attain our goals. However, the assertion that any means can be taken to attain the worthy goal is, to some extent, too extremely.



At the first threshold, I think it is better to give "a worthy goal" a clear definition. First, the goal must base on reasoning and logic. If one's target is producing a perpetual machine, he or she in the end is doomed to failure. As we all know such a goal is violate law of conservation of energy. At least, in nowadays, any means to take to attain such a goal would be only a waste of time and resources. Second, to the individual, a worthy goal should benefit your development. There is, more often than not, no essence to make a goal like sleeping 20 hours a day, or drinking as much as one can everyday. Third, and also the most important is that as a great goal in your mind, it should benefits your surroundings, even the whole society, although other people would have their own perspective to the ultimate worth of the goal. For example, physicist want to develop the use of atomic energy to replace the fossil fuel in order to reduce the pollution, many people would oppose for fear of the result would apply on a new atomic bomb. It is natural by virtue of differing values, backgrounds, and experience. However, it is also irreproachable for the physicist's goal. And we also should encourage his or her wills for benefiting environment and human being.



Then, the fundamental problem with the statement is neglect that any means taken to the goal should not come into sharp contradiction with the morality and, at least, laws. A business man is able to get more wealth through monopolism; a politician is able to get more power through fascism. But, as we all know that, overconcentration of power and wealth will lead to threat to the fairness of whole society and injures the majority of social members' benefits. Of course, the means taken to the goals are unjustifiable. An even more remarkable modern example was Adolf Hitler,
who, invaded Poland and triggered the Second World War for the sake of pulling German out of the economic crisis in 1930s. The goal that saving German is no doubt worthy for most of people, however the war bring too much death, refugees, fear and sorrow to the people nearly all of the world. To Hitler, he could not escape from failure; to us, it is impossible to admit his means to his goal is justifiable also.



Moreover, you need to keep a clear consciousness of efficiency and effectivity when you take means for your goal as far as possible, although it is hard to assess the actions you have taken are indeed appropriated. For instance, It would never be a good choice to ride a bike from Beijing to New York for an emergency meeting, because beside impossible, it lacks of efficiency and effectivity. Even if finally you make it, the means is unjustifiable.



In sum, I can hardly agree with the speaker's assertion altogether. In my opinion, to a worthy goal, only choose legal and reasoning means to attain it, would be it justifiable leaving with no doubt. It should be a principle to guide our daily lives.
我想说的就是结构方面:
这个题目我的理解就是重点写MEANS,但是yuxiang1900你却在第二段上花了很大的功夫说worthy goal,有必要吗?
而从段落上来看的话,三四段依次减少,而且他们其实可以放在一起,都是说不择手段的不合理性。
你虽然说了worth goal,但是没有说手段是可以选择的,这在思维上是一个跳跃,我建议你还是补进去。
总体感觉你的文章确实下了很多功夫,平时积累很好,特别是语言上,我很佩服。
祝各位顺利飞跃!

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