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doraliuUID: 2842061

Rituals and ceremonies help define a culture, without them, societies or group of people have a diminished sense of who they are.

Culture is a term of different meanings, and as I understand it, it refers to the set of attitudes, values, goals and practices that characterize a group in this statement; rituals and ceremonies help strengthen that shared values or practices, so they do help in defining a culture. As to the second part of the statement, I suppose it can be paraphrased as: the elimination of rituals and ceremonies would result in a weaken culture, with a weaken culture, groups of people have a diminished sense of who they are; that is, culture help define who we are, and rituals and ceremonies help define culture, and without rituals and ceremonies, we have a weakened culture so as to a weakened sense of who we are. So I am quite positive with both assertions.

Let’s begin with how rituals and ceremonies help define a culture. The Christmas day in western countries is for family reunion and in china is spring festival; father Santa help shape the culture of western countries and china has no special god for spring festival for it is a country without religious, but it is just so engraved in every Chinese’ heart that they need to be in home with family on spring eve however far away they might be away form home; the two different rituals spell the different features of tow different cultures, and by manifesting the features, rituals help define culture ; and there is also ritual for certain religious to pray before dinner which help separate them for other religious or people without religious ; some ethics honor pig as their god; and there used to be ceremonies for some to worship the god of land; so culture difference can be seen form different rituals and ceremonies, and by spelling these difference, rituals and ceremonies help define culture.


Then come to the second part of the statement, culture help define who we are. To testify the correctness of this term we need to know the answers to this question: how do we define ourselves? As far as I am concerned, I define who I am through the relationship with others: I am a daughter, a student, a friend and so on; more importantly I define myself by comparing the different characters with others, I am a Chinese while he is an American; and when I compare myself with others, I say I am different from him because our behaviors, our values, our experiences are different, that is culture difference;
Chinese define themselves as the off-spring of dragon; the great-wall, the yellow river, four great ancient invention-paper, power, compass, pressing; and the less glory experience form the opium war on to the PRC announced by chairman Mao; and the developments in recent decades; all help shaped Chinese culture, help define who they are. As to American, the independent day of July the 4th, Washington the farther, the declaration of independence by Thomas Jefferson; the civil war when Lincoln was president that leaded to the liberation of black slaves; the Adam bomb used in second war; the greatest nation in the world now; all these help define American culture and American people. So I am confirmed on the notion that culture help define who we are.


To sum up, rituals and ceremonies are out-showed features of certain culture, in performing rituals and ceremonies, the culture practicing its exclusive characters from other cultures so as to define what it is, so that rituals and ceremonies help define a culture by distinguishing it from others; and by strengthening certain culture, rituals and ceremonies help define people of the culture, for people define themselves through the recognition of their culture.

zhangjunzjUID: 2658970

晚些改

zhangjunzjUID: 2658970

[Culture is a term of different meanings, and as I understand it, it refers to the set of attitudes, values, goals and practices that characterize a group in this statement;(这句很好) rituals and ceremonies help strengthen that shared values or practices, so they do help in defining a culture. As to the second part of the statement, I suppose it can be paraphrased as: the elimination of rituals and ceremonies would result in a weaken culture, with a weaken culture, groups of people have a diminished sense of who they are; that is, culture help define who we are, and rituals and ceremonies help define culture, and without rituals and ceremonies, we have a weakened culture so as to a weakened sense of who we are. So I am quite positive with both assertions.（这种表述不错，有新意）第一段写的比较有特色，相比之下我就比较模板了。

Let’s begin with how rituals and ceremonies help define a culture. The Christmas day in western countries is for family reunion and in china is spring festival;（这句的表述不太好，改为in western countries is for family reunion which is equally important as China’s spring festival） father Santa help shape the culture of western countries and china has no special god for spring festival for it is a country without religious, but it is just so engraved in every Chinese’ heart that they need to be in home with family on spring eve however far away they might be away from home; the two different rituals spell the different features of how different cultures, and by manifesting the features, rituals help define culture ; and there is also ritual for certain religious to pray before dinner which help separate them for other religious or people without religious ; some ethics honor pig as their god;(这句话太。。。) and there used to be ceremonies for some to worship the god of land; so culture difference can be seen from different rituals and ceremonies, and by spelling these difference, rituals and ceremonies help define culture.(这一段我感觉举得例子有些太抽象了，特别是关于宗教节日和习俗，毕竟宗教的东西不容易把握，而且老外对春节又不懂，最好举一些老外懂的)


Then come to the second part of the statement, culture help define who we are. To testify the correctness of this term we need to know the answers to this question: how do we define ourselves? As far as I am concerned, I define who I am through the relationship with others（以自己为例有些欠说服力）: I am a daughter, a student, a friend and so on; more importantly I define myself by comparing the different characters with others, I am a Chinese while he is an American;（暴露身份了，万一老外比较鄙视中国人就麻烦了） and when I compare myself with others, I say I am different from him because our behaviors, our values, our experiences are different, that is culture difference;
Chinese define themselves as the off-spring of dragon; the great-wall, the yellow river, four great ancient invention-paper, power, compass, pressing; and the less glory experience form the opium war on to the PRC（what? people’s republic of china?） announced by chairman Mao; and the developments in recent decades; all help shaped Chinese culture, help define who they are. As to American, the independent day of July the 4th, Washington the farther, the declaration of independence by Thomas Jefferson; the civil war when Lincoln was president that leaded to the liberation of black slaves(别加black,万一是个黑人来看就麻烦了); the Adam（atomic） bomb used in second war(world war 2); the greatest nation in the world now(我个人鄙视楼主，开个玩笑。改为，the strongest); all these help define American culture and American people. So I am confirmed on the notion that culture help define who we are.(我在此段上的分歧和楼主比较大，就不多说了，主要还是在论据方面)


To sum up, rituals and ceremonies are out-showed features of certain culture, in performing rituals and ceremonies, the culture practicing its exclusive characters from other cultures so as to define what it is, so that rituals and ceremonies help define a culture by distinguishing it from others;（这连个so有些不妥） and by strengthening certain culture, rituals and ceremonies help define people of the culture, for people define themselves through the recognition of their culture.

zhangjunzjUID: 2658970

怎么没颜色啊？算了，还是发文件吧
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zhangjunzjUID: 2658970

啊，忘了留链接了

https://bbs.gter.net/thread-1128488-1-1.html；共同进步，谢了。

sangshuoUID: 2833995

首先这个题目 个人觉得 很难写
关于楼主的文章，个人觉得 论点比较明确，即 分别讲 宗教定义文化，和文化定义人。 这样的格式比较明了，但是在各个论述中我觉得 存在一点问题
1 在第二段讲，宗教定义文化的时候，整段来说 确实说明了  因为宗教习惯的原因让人们加以区分， 可是我觉得 楼主的大多数时间都用在了 宗教区分上，相比这下 直接跳到宗教定义文化上 就显的 不够有说服力，我觉得应该多说说 宗教与文化的关系
2 在第三段讲，文化定义人， 前面都说的很好，但是 就如同第二段的感觉 突然话锋一转 就直接说这就是文化定义了人。。  给我的感觉就像： 这段我要说 蛋的妈妈是鸡，首先我们要讲 蛋的妈妈会是谁呢？ 噢，蛋的妈妈就是那个生蛋的人， 那就是鸡。   给我一种这样论证的感觉， 那个 HOW TO DEFINE US?的问句 带来了一种绕圈圈的效果。。。
之后那一段  讲中国的 都不错 ， 但是讲美国的，个人觉得 都是他们的历史事件，也许你会说 历史就是文化的反应，但是我觉得 如果这样的话 你得先论证 历史是文化的反映，再通过历史来论证 文化定义人。

以上只是我个人拙见~

sangshuoUID: 2833995

https://bbs.gter.net/thread-1128482-1-1.html
这是我的链接
希望我们共同进步，最后都能取到好成绩~ 加油~

charleqinUID: 2854380

楼主，这是你45分钟写完的吗？好厉害啊，。。。。我写不了这么多。。。呜呜呜

doraliuUID: 2842061

哈哈，谢谢楼上的修改，那个greatest绝对是笔误啊，我估计写的时候偶已经快睡着了，因为写的实在是太墨迹了。。。。。。。。。。。。

doraliuUID: 2842061

6# sangshuo

你说的很对，但是就我的知识而言，展开不了文化跟宗教的关系,对于美国的例子，除了历史事件，其他的我把握不准。。。。。。。

不知道有什么例子或者思路呢？

lingli_xiaoaiUID: 172506

I saw so many replies....then i wouldn't go into detail. Just mention a few things that I am concerned of your issue.
I like you first paragraph, which is very clear and well-organized, but other paragraphs are not as good.

As p2 I think you do need to find some articles about religion to read in order to better support how religion refine culture, more importantly, what the role of ceremonies and ritual play in religion.

For p.3...you mainly talk about how you (individual) define youself...but please refer the topic,key word is how a group of people define themselves, So you may need to refer people comes from same culture as a group, other than talk about them individually.

As for the evidence you have here, I agree with others that I didn't see clear connection between historical events with culture in general, at least you didn't discuss well for people to see.

doraliuUID: 2842061

11# lingli_xiaoai


感激。。。。。吸取经验教训~~~~